Vice president's lesbian daughter pregnant

IntrepidIsMe · **Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:10 pm**

There are many, many people who don't grow up with both a female and male figure in their lives. Parents don't determine mental health.

Republican_Man · **Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:15 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:24 pm**

I did a quick google and didn't really get anything either way. But anyway, I'm guessing that by your logic single people shouldn't be allowed to adopt, either? And I don't see how being shuffled around from foster home to foster home or living in an orphanage (with no parents what-so-ever) could really be much worse than gay adoption.

Republican_Man · **Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:36 pm**

IntrepidIsMe · **Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:48 pm**

So, you're basing your idea that single-parent adoption is okay on the assumption that they'll date? That's a pretty weak stance. Even if they do date, then how do you know it's with one person for more than a couple of weeks at a time?

There will always be adults of the opposite sex around, family friends, teachers, etc. The only way there couldn't be is if they lock the child up and don't let him/her out. And studies show that abuse is less likely with homosexual parents than heterosexual parents, so we all know that that's even less likely.

Anyway, according to the journal Perspectives in Psychiatric Care, homosexual parents aren't more or less likely than heterosexual parents to influence their children in one direction or another (be it sexually or behavior) That's the only scholarly journal I've been able to find so far.

Arellia · **Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:58 am**

Children are influenced by all kinds of people, aside from their parents, and I think "proving" they'll be around someone of the other sex is way out there. Coming from a single-parent home definitely doesn't mean you're going to see people of the other sex, and I'd say it can be even more damaging if your parent is dating someone, or several someones filtering in and out of your life. You can't legislate that all kids will have an adult figure of both sexes. That's way interfering in the lives of everyday people.

And do we forget, even children of homosexual parents will likely have grandparents, eh? I barely saw my grandfather growing up, but he was my only male "rolemodel"... and a very fine one.

Republican_Man · **Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:37 am**

I have absolutely no arguments against what you've said. I'm stumped, and I've got nothing to counter with. Therefore I think you've just won the debate, and I have no choice but to admit it

And you've won me over, too. I would hope that this would happen, and think that it should, but that requirement would be unnecessary. I am now in agreement.

magenta · **Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:39 am**

I dont understand why a person would deliberately put a child in a situation of no father or no mother?If it be a woman deliberately getting pregnant with the intention of being a single mother.Or a lesbian couple wanting to adopt or one get pregnant!
I think its very selfish and wrong.Its every childs right to have a mother and father.If a parent dies in an accident or illness,thats a tragedy and unavoidable.I think the world is turning into a selffish society,people only think about what they want and what will make them happy.
Its time to start thinking about what is the right thing to do and put our selfish
'wants' aside!
The world would be a much better place!

Arellia · **Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:42 pm**

TrekkieMage · **Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:43 pm**

Republican_Man · **Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:19 pm**

I tend to agree with much that's been stated here. I would much rather see a happy child with two moms than an unhappy child with a mom and a dad that are incredibly abusive, a single parent who's not around and not loving, a child who's shifting from foster home to foster home, and so on. Even at the expense of the traditional family, though I would much prefer that a billion times over.

Oddbeani57 · Senior Cadet Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 25 Location: NoPo.

As for the OP: Wow. That would pretty much be a direct summation of my feelings as of now. The fact that she's pregnant isn't really that stirring in either direction for me, but the fact that it's the VP's lesbian daughter makes it at least interesting.

Go Mary, Go?