HOW TO CHANGE A TIMELINE

Commander Ranahan · Doctor Joined: 11 Oct 2001 Posts: 9519 Location: Guam

GO BACK IN TIME AND DO WHAT U GOT 2 DO Right ANY ONE ELSE WANNA SAY aNY THINg

B'Elanna Torres 7 of 9 · **Fri Oct 12, 2001 10:57 pm**

um..okay

Lindley · **Sat Oct 13, 2001 10:13 am**

First, you need to invent a time machine.

Then, you need to spend the rest of your life calculating the infinite variables to ensure the change is correct. Last,.....wait, you've died from old age by then.

Link, the Hero of Time · **Sat Oct 13, 2001 2:53 pm**

another thing... make sure if / when a person goes back in time they take into account all the variables that will happen. 1 example. in a point in your life, you get saved from drowning.. if you go back before that and change something. nobody might have been there to save you

ivylgtiger · **Mon Oct 29, 2001 12:13 am**

Temporal paradox is the deadliest form of problem and the
most complex to prevent.

All the newest Star Trek series have changed timelines and
shown the audience the differences. The original Star Trek
feared changing timelines [the Gary Seven episode w/ Terri
Garr] and actually just fulfilled the original timeline.

Gene Roddenberry believed that timelines were robust and
hard to change.

Lindley · **Mon Oct 29, 2001 8:35 am**

Actually, in TOS:"The City On The Edge of Forever" McCoy did change history (temporarily).

But I agree, GR thought TLs were difficult to damage. After all, with all that time traveling, they never once caused a Back to the Future-style paradox.

Link, the Hero of Time · **Tue Oct 30, 2001 7:51 pm**

too bad i would have loved that

Quantum_Slipstream · **Wed Oct 31, 2001 10:56 am**

Remember the Voyager episodes "Year of Hell" parts 1 & 2?
Annorax and his Krenim crew tried for over a century to undo the mistake he made in the past (creating a temporal incursion that killed the colony where his wife lived)... Yet he was not successful.

... And the Borg in Star Trek VIII tried to go back in time to prevent Earth's first contact, yet they failed.

... And in the Voyager episode "Relativity" we learn that even if someone managed to change the timeline, temporal sensors in the future can detect it and a Federation time ship would be dispatched to prevent you from doing what it is you did.

.. And remember the Voyager eps "Future's End" parts 1 & 2? We learned that going back in the past to change history sometimes results in a causal loop, in which case one's attempts to change history actually cause the original history to be fulfilled (Temporal Mechanics 101).

... Apparently, going back in time to change history is not as easy as it sounds... unless of course you're Janeway, in which case single-handedly altering Voyager's timeline is all in a day's work ("Endgame" Parts 1 & 2)

Lindley · **Wed Oct 31, 2001 5:13 pm**

Or Kim and Chakotay in "Timeless".

Of course, it could be argued that those changes were meant to happen.

Captain Skyline · Vice Admiral Joined: 09 Aug 2001 Posts: 6646 Location: UK

Well all you gotta do is, steal annorax`es ship in year of hell pt.1 and 2 and erase planets and civillisations from time and BANG you got your changed timeline!

Commander Ranahan · Doctor Joined: 11 Oct 2001 Posts: 9519 Location: Guam

But you must know the yesterdays enterprise ties in with time less, and end game.

Commander Ranahan · Doctor Joined: 11 Oct 2001 Posts: 9519 Location: Guam

But you must know the yesterdays enterprise ties in with time less, and end game.

Dax Orien · **Sun Nov 04, 2001 12:33 am**

I hate time paradoxs

Thomas · **Sun Nov 04, 2001 8:53 am**

"Here's my advice on how to make sense of a temperal paradox, don't even try."

-Janeway to Harry, Timeless.

(The quote is something like that).

Lindley · **Sun Nov 04, 2001 2:44 pm**

"The future is the past, the past is the future---it all gives me a headache."

-Janeway to Chakotay, "Future's End".

Seven of Nine · **Sun Nov 04, 2001 2:49 pm**

Timeless was on on Saturday.. I know.. I watched it at six in the moring! (I'm not allowed to watch it in the afternoon)

Dax Orien · **Mon Nov 05, 2001 1:00 am**

Yeah did ya notice how your parents who like Trek don't like YOU watching it during the day

YOU = General/as in everyone

ivylgtiger · **Fri Nov 09, 2001 3:36 pm**

It is true. Janeway was alsways whining about
temporal paradoxes and her loathing of them.
Then she chooses to throw caution to the wind
in several timelines for "Endgame"!

What a captain / woman!

Commander Ranahan · Doctor Joined: 11 Oct 2001 Posts: 9519 Location: Guam

She does have a resson to whine though because when you mess with time, you mess with everything.

I dont want to say this but if Captin Braxton, could change time when he did, whats stops him again. i know he was cought but the words of time prodox things change when you keep messing with it.

Link, the Hero of Time · **Wed Nov 14, 2001 4:15 pm**

if admiral janeway hadn't gone back in time to save captian janeway's as*.. Seven would have died.. Chacotay would never have been the same.. all things would go to he*l.. but she took it in mind and did it anyway

Commander Ranahan · Doctor Joined: 11 Oct 2001 Posts: 9519 Location: Guam

Dum, Duim, Dum

Dax Orien · **Sun Nov 25, 2001 3:30 am**

You have a good point, Link. No guy (male gender) wants her to die

Commander Ranahan · Doctor Joined: 11 Oct 2001 Posts: 9519 Location: Guam

well i got it now but theres just some many therioes on time lines

Dax Orien · **Sun Dec 02, 2001 3:26 am**

So many different possibilities. So many different outcomes. So little time.

Lindley · **Sun Dec 02, 2001 3:38 am**

I was just over at Trek BBS (I don't go there much, but it's sometimes interesting) and it seems many people feel that, due to the events of "Cold Front", the timeline as we know it is changed.

They think that in the original timeline, Enterprise NX-01 is destroyed in that plasma storm. Naturally, I don't agree, that would be far too simple. However, it is an intriging theory......