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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:37 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | CJ Cregg wrote: | Another spot of good news for Dems.
We now have Majority of in the governors and state houses. Meaning democrats control gerrymandering!
Which means the republican leaning districts will all be gerrymandered to favour democrats.
Even though Gerrymandering is wrong. |
They only redisterict after the 10-year census, I believe, so it won't make a difference until 2011.
But there is very little good that came from this election, for the Republicans, Colorado, and America. It's sad, it really is. One can only hope that things are better next round.
I'm especially sad today to see Allen, a superb statesman, gone. |
The Supreme Court ruled this year that a state can redistrict anytime. Just like Texas and Georgia did.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
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I can actually say I feel good about my future, several things I voted for locally passed. New city Council I can't wait to see who will step up. And the Dems win. To quote U2: "It's a Beautiful Day"
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:44 pm |
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I'm getting better now. I'm still astoundingly partisan and faithful that the inevitable Dem screw-up of this state and country will occur, but I've started to channel that anger and frustration a bit more in the positive respect, figuring out what I can do, as an American citizen, to make things better again.
But I'm still mad and worrisome at the outcome.
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WeAz Commodore
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Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:53 pm |
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I'm just glad we can start moving away from Religious Fundamentalism.
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Founder Dominion Leader
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:06 am |
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WeAz wrote: | I'm just glad we can start moving away from Religious Fundamentalism. |
This is the second time you've made a claim, but have not backed it up in any way. Care to explain how Bush was a religious fundementalist? If you think he's fundementalist, you seriously need to reevaluate your definition of it.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:11 am |
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WeAz wrote: | I'm just glad we can start moving away from Religious Fundamentalism. |
Huh. That's interesting, considering the Democratic Congress will likely revoke measures defending us from religious fundamentalists--a.k.a. Islamo-Fascist terrorists--thereby moving us closer to them...
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Link, the Hero of Time Vice Admiral
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:33 am |
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Republican_Man wrote: | Huh. That's interesting, considering the Democratic Congress will likely revoke measures defending us from religious fundamentalists--a.k.a. Islamo-Fascist terrorists--thereby moving us closer to them... |
Oh? Like starting a war that has increased terrorism?
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:44 am |
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Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | Republican_Man wrote: | Huh. That's interesting, considering the Democratic Congress will likely revoke measures defending us from religious fundamentalists--a.k.a. Islamo-Fascist terrorists--thereby moving us closer to them... |
Oh? Like starting a war that has increased terrorism? |
That's merely a natural biproduct of war in the Middle East. The terrorists would find some way to increase the number of terrorists. Iraq just happens to be the way they've got right now, but it's inevitable either way. But we didn't happen to be in Iraq during the 90s when terrorism skyrocketed. We had pulled out of Somalia, which was manipulated and used as a big recruitment tool. That's the time period when terrorism has grown the most. And it's decreased as well as increased, but in different ways, since. But it's nothing like that, especially since the Islamo-Fascists aren't close to us because of it.
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Founder Dominion Leader
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:52 pm |
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Well...I guess WeAz never wanted to provide proof. *shrugs*
As for this topic, I wonder what the first thing the Dem. will change...
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:11 pm |
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The first 100 hours.
I haven't been keeping up with how they've been doing with that, but basically they want to:
1. break ties with lobbiests (don't know how well they'll do with that...)
2. return funding to stem cell research (yay!)
3. enact recommendations from 9/11 commission (finally!)
And I think there were some plans in there to reduce college tuition (that may just be Maryland) and student loan interest (may just be Virginia).
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Founder Dominion Leader
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:18 pm |
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TrekkieMage wrote: | And I think there were some plans in there to reduce college tuition (that may just be Maryland) and student loan interest (may just be Virginia). |
Please make it for the entire country...please....
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:21 pm |
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That's my feeling
Although, I'm going to a public Maryland college, so if it comes to pass I'll get a tuition decrease. Yay!
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WeAz Commodore
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:25 pm |
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Founder wrote: | WeAz wrote: | I'm just glad we can start moving away from Religious Fundamentalism. |
This is the second time you've made a claim, but have not backed it up in any way. Care to explain how Bush was a religious fundementalist? If you think he's fundementalist, you seriously need to reevaluate your definition of it. |
Lets see....
1) He tried to ban Gay Marriage
2) He tried to ban any kind of abortion
3) He vetoed a Stem-Cell bill
4) He believes he was appointed by God. He said that in one of his speeches.
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:32 pm |
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Founder wrote: | TrekkieMage wrote: | And I think there were some plans in there to reduce college tuition (that may just be Maryland) and student loan interest (may just be Virginia). |
Please make it for the entire country...please.... |
This is what the Democratic party site says:
We will broaden college opportunity, and we will begin by cutting interest rates for student loans in half.
http://www.housedemocrats.gov/bigpicture/jobs_and_economy/issue.cfm?level2id=102
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:24 pm |
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Undecided races
FL-13: We've already talked about this race, with a recount and possible lawsuit for a new election in the works.
NM-01: Three precincts left to report their provisional ballots, and GOP Incumbent Heather Wilson clings to a 644-vote lead.
NC-08: Incumbent Robin Hayes holds a 465-vote lead over Larry Kissell. 1,500 provisional ballots will be counted Friday. If the margin is within 1 percent (1,205 votes), a recount will take place Nov. 20, 21.
OH-02: "Thousands of provisional ballots" remain to be counted this week, with Jean Schmidt holding a 2,865-vote lead over Democratic challenger Vic Wulsin.
OH-15: 10,000 provisional ballots will be counted early next week. Republican incumbent Deborah Pryce leads Democratic challenger Mary Jo Kilroy by 3,536.
LA-02: This runoff between corrupt Democrat William Jefferson and new Blue Majority (formerly Netroots) ActBlue candidate Karen Carter will take place in December.
TX-23: Democrat Ciro Rodriguez and GOP incumbent Henry Bonilla face off in a runoff election next month.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:43 pm |
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Good column on the elections by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann today.
Quote: | ULTRA-LIBERALS RISE ON MODERATE WINGS
By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
November 15, 2006 -- The results of the �06 election are in. The left
wing of the Democratic Party has taken over Congress. Rep. Nancy Pelosi
(D-Calif.) is the Speaker. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) is the new
chairman of the Ways and Means panel. Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is majority
leader, and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) runs the Environment
Committee. The left is empowered.
But how did it achieve these majorities? It did so lifted by the wings
of moderate, centrist Democrats who mastered their GOP opponents
throughout the country. It was not liberals who defeated Republican
incumbents in the House and Senate. It was moderates, future members of the
Democratic Leadership Council (DLC).
The only reason Pelosi is Speaker is that a fresh crop of moderate
Democrats ousted Republican incumbents in the House. A majority of these
new congressmen and -women have announced their intention to join the
DLC.
It is only because pro-lifer Bob Casey beat Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.),
former Reagan Navy Secretary Jim Webb defeated Sen. George Allen
(R-Va.), and gun-control opponent Jon Tester triumphed in Montana that Harry
Reid is the new Senate majority leader.
Moveon.org, party chairman Howard Dean, and the blogger left had
nothing to do with the �06 victory. Democrats who study the election results
carefully will reaffirm the lessons learned by the defeat of Walter
Mondale and Michael Dukakis � the American people will not elect liberal
Democrats, but will turn to moderates.
The irony is that the expressed will of the American people has been so
radically ignored in the shaping of the 110th Congress. The fact is
that the elevation of Nancy Pelosi to the speakership is no more a
legitimate expression of the voters� will than would be the retention of
Dennis Hastert. The seniority system, rigidly applied by Pelosi in violation
of the spirit of the Gingrich reforms of 1994, has ordained that a
liberal establishment will run Congress, whatever the voters say.
Is there anyone who will sanely maintain that Rangel represents the
broad middle of American views on tax reform, or that Levin speaks for
most Americans on national security? All that has happened is that the
ranking members have become the chairmen, regardless of their views or
qualifications. It is a gesture of homage to seniority that would have the
approval of the segregationists that used to run Congress by applying
the same ground rules. Back then, no matter how loudly voters demanded
integration and an end to racism, the Democratic majority kept apartheid
firmly in place. The distortion of the electorate�s will taking place
now on Capitol Hill is no more extreme.
Will the Democrats pay for their imperial overreach? Not if, despite
taking the majority, they stay in opposition, use their power to oppose
the Bush administration, investigate it endlessly, and continue the
negative criticism that embodied their �06 campaign.
But such is not the nature of the Democratic Party. Power will likely
go to their heads. Their constituencies will not be appeased by mere
partisan criticism of Bush. Had the Democrats been fortunate enough to win
only the House, they could have hidden behind the wall of Senate
obstructionism and pleaded their inability to pass legislation. But having
won both, they have no excuse but to pass legislation that will reflect
the will of their issue-group masters and expose the differences between
the views of their party and those of the voters.
Bush will still be president, so their output will face a daunting
succession of presidential vetoes. So will there be a backlash? No. There
will only be the beginning of a backlash. Bush�s likely intransigence
on Iraq, global warming, and a host of other issues will shield the
Democrats from the political consequences of their own legislative
initiatives.
Rather, we have to see 2007 and 2008 as the beginnings of a massive
Republican revival. Only when the likes of Hillary Clinton take the White
House in 2008 � still my bet � will the resurgence be fully evident.
Just as she saved the GOP in 1994, she�ll repeat the favor in 2010 and
2012.
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WeAz Commodore
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:52 pm |
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Eh...the Dem's are too liberal for me now...I support them on social issues, but they are too left on Government, and taxes.
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:00 am |
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WeAz wrote: | Eh...the Dem's are too liberal for me now...I support them on social issues, but they are too left on Government, and taxes. |
Why don't we wait for them to take control of congress before judging them.
Plus i don't believe Dick Morris, the guy who said Bush would get a bump after Katrina. Yeah, more like a slump.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:58 pm |
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Dick has made some mistakes, but he's pretty brilliant when it comes to political individuals, issues, etc. I trust his judgement quite a bit, and agree with him here.
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WeAz Commodore
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:15 pm |
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Well, at least he's not as bad as Coulter.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:19 pm |
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WeAz wrote: | Well, at least he's not as bad as Coulter. |
lol, Dick Morris is nothing like Coulter. He's a better person, too, except for the fact that he cheated on his wife in an extramarital affair and had an illegitimate child
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:01 pm Democrats claim another seat in Texas race |
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Quote: | Democrats win another seat in Texas race
Democrats claimed another seat in the House of Representatives on Tuesday in a runoff election that pitted two Latinos against each other, capping the party's recapture of Congress last month.
Seven-term Republican incumbent Henry Bonilla lost to former U.S. Rep. Ciro Rodriguez in a race that had angered some as it was held on December 12, which marks Our Lady of Guadalupe, one of the most important dates in the Mexican calendar.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061213/pl_nm/texas_election_runoff_dc |
Democrats now have 233 seats in the 110th congress, more than Republicans have had since 1952. The Republican "revolution" never secured this large a majority in the House
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