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		| Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
 
  
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				|  Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:45 pm |  
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				| Kevin told us who have reiterated points to discontinue doing so, so I won't reinforce my argument that it's not just a movie, but I will say that yes, obviously controversey is great publicitiy, but that doesn't mean that the story shouldn't be told or outrage shouldn't exist, though I do see your point. 
 
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Sen. Hillary Clinton blasts Bush assassination film 
 CHAPPAQUA � Sen. Hillary Clinton this morning blasted the producers of a new film depicting the assassination of Pres. George W. Bush.
 
 "I think it's despicable," Clinton said of "Death of a President," a fictional film that features a staged assassination of the president in 2007. "I think it's absolutely outrageous. That anyone would even attempt to profit on such a horrible scenario makes me sick."
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 http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060916/UPDATE/609160394
 
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				|  Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:41 pm |  
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				| Even Hillary's denouncing this. What does that say about the movie? A lot more than right-wing people going out and protesting. Hillary is abhored. 
 
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		| CJ Cregg Commodore
 
  
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				|  Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:54 pm |  
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				| Just finished watching the movie. Have to say it was pretty good. Very emotional and shocking at times. Nothing at all like i was expecting. 
 I think the most disturbing bit is when the news that Pres Bush had been shot reached the protesters and they started cheering.
 
 The politics of Cheney and the patriot act amendments are on for about a min. Most of it focuses on the investigation and how it was messed up due to pressure from the public and media.
 
 
 I have just been reading some other peoples views on the movie and they found it pretty dull and were expecting more criticism on the war on terror.
 
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				|  Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:55 pm |  
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				| I still don't like it one bit. The whole principle of the film is wrong, and I definitely will not be seeing it when it comes to theatres. 
 
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		| CJ Cregg Commodore
 
  
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				|  Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:58 pm |  
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				| Well that's your loss. Its a very good movie and shows Bush in a very positive light and the anti-war people in a very bad way. Its also VERY realistic. Sometimes you forget its made up. 
 
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				|  Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:59 pm |  
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				| I will make sure to see this. Any trailers? 
 
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				|  Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:25 am |  
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				| If i were you id wait for it to come on TV. Its not worth spending money on. 
 
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				|  Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:03 pm |  
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				| Very nice. Definately something I need to see. 
 
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				| I saw it last night (was at college Monday night) and I must say it was done very tastefully. It was very realistic though. 
 
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				| While it is a controversial film, it is a film. 
 
 
 
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				| Ok, I got tickets to an advance screening, tonight. 
 
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				|  	  | WeAz wrote: |  	  | Ok, I got tickets to an advance screening, tonight. | 
 
 Wow. You're really desperate to see the President assassinated, aren't you?
    
 
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				|  Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:54 pm |  
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				| Its a good movie, but not good enough for me to pay to watch it. 
 
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				| No. Don't insult me by saying that. 	  | Republican_Man wrote: |  	  |  	  | WeAz wrote: |  	  | Ok, I got tickets to an advance screening, tonight. | 
 
 Wow. You're really desperate to see the President assassinated, aren't you?
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				|  	  | WeAz wrote: |  	  | No. Don't insult me by saying that. | 
 
 Why not? First of all, I was only teasing you. Second of all, you insult me by excitedly seeing a movie about the assassination of President Bush. And not only seeing it excitedly, but seeing an early showing with great anticipation. And you have a great deal of antipathy for the president at that.
 
 I mean, it honestly disturbs me that not only are you willing to pay to see this movie, even when CJ Cregg, who liked it, says he wouldn't pay for it, but you're going to see an advanced showing of it, and with great anticipation. That is, in all honesty, extremely disturbing to me, considering what the film is about.
 
 
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				| Well, aside from the fact, he didnt take it as a joke, he perhaps has anticipation due to the reviews? or perhaps the 'controversy' that has been attached to it.  We all ahve differnt views and opinions.  For all you know, he'll hate it.  As mentioned, regardles of the subject matter, tis a move, thats why it dont bother me. 
 
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				|  Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:32 pm |  
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				| I'm will to bet WeAz'll like it. Again, I don't care if it's a movie. Being a movie doesn't make the subject matter any more acceptable, or the film any more acceptable. Nor does how it's done. 
 
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				| Well, its not what I expected. It doesn't depict Bush as a tyrant. He is portrayed as someone trying to do his job. The Anti-War protestors, are shown as violent, and hateful. I loved what Bush is supposed to say early on: "I have no problem with these people protesting, but why can't they do it peacefully." Its a psuedo-documentary. It shows Bush, and his government in a very positive way. It is a good movie. 
 
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				| I knew you'd like it. And okay, so maybe it's not done in a really anti-Bush way, which makes me accept people seeing it better. But the fact that it's about the assassination of a sitting president still makes me hate it, and that's not going to change because it's the very principle that I am opposed to. 
 
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				| All the politicians who hate this, need to watch it first. 
 
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				|  	  | WeAz wrote: |  	  | All the politicians who hate this, need to watch it first. | 
 
 Why? Each and every individual has a right to hate it, politician or non-politician, because of the very principle surrounding the faux-assassination of the president. As long as you look at it from the right standpoint (that that principle is wrong) you have every right to hate it.
 
 It is looking like the film isn't anti-Bush so much, so you can't really hate it on those grounds. If it's on grounds of principle, there's nothing wrong with hating it and not seeing it. You already know what to expect in that sense, and it's like Michael Moore's movie - you don't need to see it to make a judgement (so long as it's got the right basis).
 
 I hate it, and it's merely because of the principle of assassinating a sitting president. There is nothing decent or right about that. It is wrong to the core, and I therefore hate it and detest the producers for doing it.
 
 
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				| There's nothing wrong about. NOTHING, 
 
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				|  	  | WeAz wrote: |  	  | There's nothing wrong about. NOTHING, | 
 
 Fine. At this point, we'll just have to agree to disagree, especially since you can't even understand why one would be opposed to the principle of killing off a sitting president in a movie.
 
 
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