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StarfleetCommand74656 · Captain Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV

The VGR crew must have been told about the Bajoran wormhole. I know it would have ruined the story if they had gone the other way, but wouldn't it have been more practical?

Voyager2004 · **Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:13 pm**

No, because regardless, they would have had almost as far to travel to the Wormhole as they would to have just gone to the Alpha Quadrant.

John Luck Pickard · **Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:41 pm**

Yeah, and then what happens if that wormhole shut down one day (which it did, but opened back up). If they took the chance that that wormhole was still there, even if it was closer, then if it had disppeared they would have doubled their journey, which would of sucked for them.

JupiterPrime · Lieutenant Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 208

If they did know, then that would have been the logical choice as the distance between the exitpoint of the Bajor Wormhole in the GQ, and the exit point of Voyager in the DQ is only about 1/3 the distance as it was from the the Voyager DQ exit back to DS9.

They would have completely bypassed the Borg entirely but would have had to traverse through about 5000LY of Dominion space to get to the entry point of the Bajor wormhole

Lord Borg · **Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:20 pm**

They knew of the wormhole, but to head for that, it would have taken way longer, then the course they took in the series.

Founder · **Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:33 pm**

First of all, as others said, they would have had to go through the Dominion. VOY against the Dominion=VOY going bye bye.

Second of all, as Chris said, they would have had to go ALL the way through the Delta and then ALL the way through the Gamma. That would have made their journey like...500 years.

JupiterPrime · Lieutenant Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 208

Negative - as I mentioned, and accoriding to Memory Alpha, the distance between Voyager DQ appearance, and the exit point of the Bajor Wormhole, is about 2 to 3 fifths the distance of the Voyager DQ appearance and DS9 more than half the distance of the course they traveresed on the show

but as I also mentioned even if they went that route, they would have ultimately had to cross about 5000LY of Dominion space

I must be talking to myself

Founder · **Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:17 pm**

lionhead · **Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:57 am**

Though facing the borg wasn't a bright idea either.

I mean, when the wormhole was discovered they didn't even know where it came out did it? Did they know it was in or so close to Dominion space?

StarfleetCommand74656 · Captain Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV

In the map the Caretaker's array was on the Delta/Gamma border- and the wormhole, according to the paper that come with the STDS9 Emissary vid, the wormhole was 46000 lightyears from Alpha quad.

Voyager2004 · **Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:56 am**

The Caretaker's array was definitely NOT on the Delta/Gamma Quadrant Border...As shown in this CANON picture from the "Star Trek: Star Charts" book. And according to the picture, it is ALMOST the same distance to Earth as it would be to go to the Wormhole from Voyager's position in the DQ. Not "3/5."

Click to make it bigger...

JupiterPrime · Lieutenant Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 208

Interesting - never saw that image and how convenient of them to make it an equilateral triangle isnt it?

The source image I saw, that I havent been able to find, had the Bajor wormhole GQ exit closer to the DQ by about a third of the distance in that picture, along with the Voyager DQ location a little closer to the DQ/GQ border than shown, hence the my above statments

Lord Borg · **Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:19 pm**

Well, first off, yeah, they knew where it came out, thanks to probes and that sort of thing, they had an idea as to what star was where etc... so the computer could 'estimate' as to where it was, and by the time VOY started, they were exploring the Gamma, so they knew where it was

Second, the star charts book is not canon. Could be considared it, thanks to the research the person did, but it isn't, because the time, location etc... of places seem to change in each trek production. By all rights, it should take days to get from earth to Bajor, but they seem to do it within a matter of hours. The same with Vulcan.

Thirdly, what good would the series have been, if they had gone on the trip to a wormhole? Besides the fact the trip couldl have been longer (Yeah, the star charts is pretty acuate, IMO), it's just...blah. Not to mention, there was already a trek production with the Gamma and the wormhole, theywere trying to do soemthing differnt.

Triangle? What are you talking about? OUr galaxy is spherical...

Founder · **Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:23 pm**

Voyager2004 · **Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:42 am**

Lord Borg · **Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:57 am**

Voyager2004 · **Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:04 am**

Now you see, it's not just a book though. I mean, this book wasn't written by an author. This book doesn't make up a non-canon story to the Trek universe. What really throws me over and into believing it is Rick Sternbach and Michael Okuda.

Now granted, with a name like Jeri Taylor in it, we'd all be spreading the word that it's canon. But at the same time who's to say she couldn't be a part of it at the time? Or that she didn't want anything to do with that aspect of Trek?

Regardless, it is as you said, a great reference. Everything in the book is pretty much spaced out as it should be. The time it takes to travel to Bajor from Earth is very accurate in the book. While in the show it's not...but that's the show and they're full of inaccuracies to what they have already established...

Untitled · **Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:02 pm**

JupiterPrime · Lieutenant Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 208

Untitled · **Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:18 pm**

Founder · **Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:48 pm**

JupiterPrime · Lieutenant Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 208

Well whatever.....Im glad they didnt try going that route. If they did, they wouldnt have crossed Borg space, and Kes would have had to stay on board

Yes I know that was a pure dig, but one that I could not let slide