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 Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:03 pm Discussions About The Tractor Beams In Star Trek |
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If a tractor beam in startrek locks on on a starship that is bigger than the starship that is emitting the tractor beam, will the smaller ship be able to tow the bigger ship away? Will the other ship have the advantage as they are a bigger?
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| Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:21 pm |
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Newton: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
There is no friction in space. So size doesn't matter. All that matters is the tractor beam because it is the object actually applying force.
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Tuvok8917
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| Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:00 am |
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So you're saying that if the Tractor beam has enough power for example: a tractor beam from a shuttle, it can pull bigger ships like an Akira Class? I never knew that...
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| Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:36 am |
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The shuttle will be able to pull a bigger ship if it has a strong beam, but since a shuttle is small and light, i don't think it is equipped with strong tractor beam emitters.
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| Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:13 pm |
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| Tuvok8917 wrote: | | So you're saying that if the Tractor beam has enough power for example: a tractor beam from a shuttle, it can pull bigger ships like an Akira Class? I never knew that... |
So long as it had a powerful enough Tractor Beam, yes. Physics in a vacum is fun 
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| Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:41 pm |
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Ya...like today's tugboat's pull larger ships. I know it's WAY different, but same concept. LOL...
But yes, that is correct.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:34 am |
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What do you mean by today's tugboat's pull larger ships, they do? Would you care to explain it to me. 
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:14 am |
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The tractor beam does the job of a rope. Sure, a small ship might be strong enough to tug a big one, but is the "rope" strong enough? Different question.
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Voyager2004
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| Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:40 pm |
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^^^This is true.
Yes, Tugboats pull larger ships. That's how most large ships navigate through smaller canals and such or something of the sort. Like, I actually have seen a tugboat pull a submarine our of dock and help it on its way...
I'm in the Submarine force of the Navy, just in case I hadn't mentioned that. So, that's how I've seen a submarine be pulled by a tug...
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| Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:41 am |
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another question how can borg tractors drain shields?
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| Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:25 pm |
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Probably in the design. I'm sure that Starfleet could do it if they really want to. They just need to redesign the tractors.
Where have you seen that they do that? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just wanna know.
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| Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:11 am |
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"I suspect that the sight of one of their warships being towed by a Federation runabout took the heart out of their fight."
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| Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:57 pm |
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| iconoclast wrote: | | "I suspect that the sight of one of their warships being towed by a Federation runabout took the heart out of their fight." |
What? Where was the contribution to the discussion? It doesn't make sense...
I hope I don't come across as rude, it's not my intention. 
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I was making a light joke, Mr Autistic.
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Voyager2004
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| Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:43 pm |
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Autistic? What's that supposed to mean?
And I was just trying to say that, since now I know you were "lightly joking," that I didn't get it.
I would probably get it if I knew as to whom you were referring when the runabout tows their ship...
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| Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:00 pm |
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Cardassians. Galor class.
I apologize for calling you names 
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| Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:56 pm |
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It's ok. I forgive you.
Oh...I get it...were you quoting someone from one of the shows? I'm guessing if you were quoting then it was probably from DS9...if that's the case then that's why I didn't get it...lol...my bad. 
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| Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:26 am |
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| Tuvok8917 wrote: | | So you're saying that if the Tractor beam has enough power for example: a tractor beam from a shuttle, it can pull bigger ships like an Akira Class? I never knew that... |
Well I doubt a shuttle would be able to tow an Akira. Akira's are huge.. one of the largest fed ships. It might nudge it slowly with the emitter on the shuttle at full power but thats about it.
We seen a runabout towing a galor class ship out a wormhole. The runabout would have a much larger tractor emitter than a shuttle and the galor is a much lower mass ship and smaller than an akira. The runabout might have been towing it for a couple of minutes to bring the galor up to speed and out of the wormhole because when you shut off the tractor beam power, the mass of the ship in space would cause it to float in the direction it was heading unless you used the tractor again to apply just as much force you used to bring it up to speed, to stop it again.
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| Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:31 pm |
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The Akira isn't ONE of the largest Federation ships. It's large, yes, but it's not a whole lot bigger than Voyager. And this sizing chart I don't even believe is that accurate. But I have seen one very similar to, if not the exact same one, in Star Trek: The Encyclopedia.
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| Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:00 am |
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I was also referring to mass as well. I'm sure a shuttle would equally struggle almost as much trying to tow an intrepid. Towing full size starships with shuttles is not a standard procedure I would imagine and not very practical seeing as we have not really seen it.
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Voyager2004
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| Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:44 pm |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | I'm sure a shuttle would equally struggle almost as much trying to tow an intrepid. Towing full size starships with shuttles is not a standard procedure I would imagine and not very practical seeing as we have not really seen it. |
Well, there I'd have to agree. It's not standard procedure...I guess now looking at how small a shuttle and runabout would be to those ships would be difficult. Eh, never mind. It makes sense in my head, I just can't put it into words. lol.
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datalore3
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| Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:35 pm |
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no it would be just as easy for a shuttle to tug a much larger vessel think about it, OK if you are in a lake and u lift someone up that is much much heaver than u it is easy same thing with the tractor no gravity no friction make is easy to tug something 50x bigger than you.
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