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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:05 am First Jobs |
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Tomorrow I'm most likely going to apply for my very first "true" job at a brand new Barnes and Noble opening up next month. Don't know quite what job I'm going to apply for, but my dad will most likely be driving me over tomorrow, with my finished application.
So I was wondering a few things. First, where and what was your first job? Second, what was it like, starting it up? Third, what tips might you have towards being in an interview, starting a first job, and so forth?
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Ziona Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Aug 2001 Posts: 12821 Location: Michigan... for now
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:09 am |
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1) First job was technically a floral designer at a local floral shop. I also had been working for my dad for quite a few years but I dno't really count that.
2) I liked my job, both of them. I haven't had a job I haven't liked, mostly because I'm really picky about where I apply and such. But that's just my experience. It's hard work but it's money. You have to start somewhere.
3) For an interview, my middle school did alot of training on what to do and how to act in an interview. I always bring resumes since I have experience. But, if you don't have experience, just act really aimable and courteous. Courtesy is always good! And friendliness! And dress nicely, that's another plus.
It depends on where you're applying as well. But for somewhere like Barnes and Noble, I say a nice dress shirt and khakis should suffice. Always greet the interviewer with a nice warm handshake, they always like that . And thank them after you're done with your interview. I usually also send a thank you note to the store about a week after my interview, just to add an extra touch.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:15 am |
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Interesting how your middle school did all that work, first of all. Secondly, I like the thank you card thing Thanks for the tips, and sounds like you had a good first "true" job!
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Starbuck faster...
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 8715 Location: between chaos and melody
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:25 am |
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1. My first "real" job was as a florist in a small shop.
2. I enjoyed it until the lady who owned it went psycho because she realized she was going to have to buy certain product
3. Just be yourself in an interview. Smile, shake hands, be personable (you don't want a cranky butt on the sales floor), don't act too nervous, ask questions. etc.
As for dress. I have to agree with Zi, khakis or black pants and a nicer shirt. But don't over do it. A full out suit including tie wouldn't be appropriate for Barns and Noble.
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:32 am |
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My first "real" job was ---- too horrible to contemplate. Thanks a lot for dredging up that memory.
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"History is made at night! Character is who you are in the dark." (Lord John Whorfin)
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 5335 Location: Hiding
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:55 pm |
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My first "real" job was at Ann Talyor Loft this past summer.
1. Have all of your info together. Bring a resume, completed application (unless you're only going to pick it up), picture ID, SSN, etc. This way if they ask for it, you'll have it.
Also, if they have direct deposit you're going to need a bank account number an you bank info. But since you're underage, you're probably going to need your parents signature on them as well. So you can get them to explain everything
2. The interview. Be relaxed. Be yourself. Smile. They know that at your age you don't have all the experience in the world - just be willing to do what they need you to do. Dress in kind of a casual-office way. Khakis or nice pants and a clean shirt (polo, short sleaved button up) will do. If you wear khakis I'd suggest a darker shirt. Comb your hair, etc. Just look like you care about your appearence without looking stiff.
Side note: my sis is applying at B&N as well this fall
Good luck, and you'll be fine
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:19 pm |
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1. My first real job was working as a grillsperson at Burgerville.
2. Starting up isnt so bad really. The worst part is learning the job and having to be taught everything. Once you get used to your job and start getting other responsibilities, its pretty awesome.
3. In an interview, just be professional and overall, just be real. If you are just another person and not all nervous and quiet, youll do fine. I have always done really well in interviews because I just went in without any preparation and just talked like the interviewer was just someone I knew.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 14823 Location: Classified
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:29 pm |
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I just submitted my application. I pretty much have to wait until after October 20th, which is when the store opens, because they're not ready to hire people specifically for weekends or something yet. So I gotta wait to contact them until then, so it's up in the air.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:51 pm |
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Best of luck with your potential chance at employment.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:59 pm |
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Thanks, my...friend?
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Puck The Texan
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:46 pm Re: First Jobs |
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Republican_Man wrote: | Tomorrow I'm most likely going to apply for my very first "true" job at a brand new Barnes and Noble opening up next month. Don't know quite what job I'm going to apply for, but my dad will most likely be driving me over tomorrow, with my finished application.
So I was wondering a few things. First, where and what was your first job? Second, what was it like, starting it up? Third, what tips might you have towards being in an interview, starting a first job, and so forth? |
[1] I started the job I have now a little over two years ago. I work at Sonic Drive-In, but I am about to quit though and find a Starbucks to work at.
[2] It sucked for about the first two weeks. I hated going in whenever I had to work, and it was kind of intimidating because it took a while for me to learn it well. After that I got used to it, and have really liked it for the most part. While the job itself isn't great or anything, I get the schedule I want, and I love working with all the girls .
[3] I'd say just in general when going through the application process for jobs like this: don't be afraid to be a little agressive. Be sure you introduce yourself to a manager, shake hands, and at least try and have a short conversation to him just introducing yourself. After you apply, be sure and check back in with them if you haven't heard back from them. If they want to do an interview, just be sure to be kind of professional, but at the same time be friendly.
Good luck with your job search !
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Untitled Commander
Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 396 Location: abandoned
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:34 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | First, where and what was your first job? |
- I was 19 when I started my first 'real' job, as a sales rep in a retail store. Maybe you've heard of it, "Dressbarn" Their very very customer service oriented - to them it's the 1st and #1 priority. They sell clothes to mostly middle aged woman, sizes 4-24 (Misses and Women). I'm 21 right now and I still work there, and I won't lie their have been times when I wanted to quit.
Republican_Man wrote: | Second, what was it like, starting it up? |
- I was excited - I had just gotten out of a bad job (one that I wouldn't really call a real job), and I was happy to have a set schedule, I would go to work and be done. And that's what I do like about that kind of a job.
At first it was boring, and I kind of felt like an outsider to them (for a long while actually) I know that any place you work at their will always be drama (among co-workers; especially if it's all woman) - it's unavoidable.
Republican_Man wrote: | Third, what tips might you have towards being in an interview, starting a first job, and so forth? |
- You have to dress up professionally, I'd recommend a blazer and dress pants, tie. Also it's nice to be early, that shows intiniative. Smile and be friendly to all of your potential new co-workers. Shake hands with them if your meeting them.
Try to be open to different options - if you really want this job, and their are different positions in the store that they want you to work - like working stock, in the cafe, in the music section or on the registers. I don't know how it works their if you have specific people in specific sections or if everyone works in all sections. But don't just say you'll work stock and nothing else - be flexable in that regard.
If they have you take a test that's multiple choice...with questions like: "Can you remember a customer's face and name easily?" And you don't have the greatest memory - lie for the best answer. I know it may sound dis-honest but the truth is their not going to remember all of those thing you may or may not be able to do.
But don't lie if you have a record. They'll find that out - and if they don't do a background check on you and they find out later - you may be in some trouble.
Some advice from me...
I work retail, and sometimes customers can get annoying and yes bitchy at times. That's everywhere not just clothing stores. You have to work out the situation as best you can - do your best not to yell and shout and try to talk the customer down from their rage, and if a situation gets bad try to have your manager/supervisor step in.
Also when you hand in applications, do what I did. Write down the phone number of each place you've handed a resume/application in and call back a week or so later and just check up with the store manager to see if they've looked at your application. It shows your interested in getting this job. They'll like that. And even if you don't get the job, keep looking, if you want something bad enough and your determined enough you'll get it.
When I first started I had a hard time with the dress code - because it's so strict and I'd never really had a real job before. It actually had gotten to the point where I would have to buy something keep the tags on and ask the manager if I could wear it. ...not that I'm saying it will be like that at Barnes and Noble. It's just the way the company works (very anal about certain things) I'm sure it will be much more casuel there than where I work.
And also, if your not happy with your job and you can survive with out it. Quit and keep looking. Money is good...but I think I'd rather be in a happy job with an okay pay than a crappy job with a good pay. But that's just me.
Happy Job hunting!
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Captain Patrick Commodore
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:37 pm |
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My first job was at a Local Store, then a Starbucks, then the barnes and noble attached to the starbucks and now with the USA AF.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:41 pm |
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Oh, so you worked at Barnes and Noble, Cap'n? What was that like?
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Captain Patrick Commodore
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:44 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | Oh, so you worked at Barnes and Noble, Cap'n? What was that like? |
it was ok, pay was good. it was a fun job manly cause i love books and reading. lol it was a fun job, kinda hard if you don;t like books. lol
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:46 pm |
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What, exactly, was it that you did? In case you didn't read it all, I just applied to Barnes and Noble today, so any info you have regarding a job at that business would be most appreciated.
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Captain Patrick Commodore
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:47 pm |
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i did customer service desk, not the check out, i helped people order books and find authors, find the books on the shelf. that sort of stuff mainly.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:48 pm |
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Ah, cool. How much did you get paid, roughly?
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Captain Patrick Commodore
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:51 pm |
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like $7.30 an hour i think it was
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:58 pm |
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Good pay indeed.
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Ziona Fleet Admiral
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:58 am |
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A few of my friends work at Barnes and Noble and they say it's a good job.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:23 am |
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My first job was technically working as a sort of filing clerk in the dingy, low-ceilinged basement of the law firm where my dad works. However, I never really had to do an interview with a proper resume or anything, because nepotism rocks.
Last summer I got my first actual "job" job, in which I actually dropped off a resume, got called in for a job interview, got the job, and worked for the summer under typical part-time working conditions, basically. It was at our local art gallery, and it was really fun. In fact, I still work there now, and it's a good source of income compared to the other jobs out there for adolescents.
Starting up? Well, I'm a "gallery attendant". My duties involve looking after the front desk (answering the phone, using the cash register, attending to the gift shop and people in the lobby, etc.). I work with three other gallery attendants, two people each to a shift, but all three of them are fourth-year art majors who are six years older than me. That being said, they were quite nice to me starting out, and we've developed a great comraderie; I consider them friends. The full-time staff are nice to me as well, although there isn't the same level of bonding as we gallery attendants have (I will admit that we gallery attendants conspire to avoid actual "work" occasionally ).
Interview? Er, it was okay. Try to avoid getting trapped with trick questions. For example, my employer asked me what I would do if I were at the front desk and there was apparently nothing to do. The right answer was "there is never nothing to do" (yay for double negatives). I passed by saying I'd find something to do, which is basically the same thing, but it's a good example of how they evaluate one's characteristics by the way one says something, not necessarily what someone says.
Hey, I'm not an outgoing person at all, but I got the job, and I actually talk to people, handle their money and sell them things, and answer the phone. So if I can do it, you can do it. During the interview, just be yourself. Be honest, but put a positive spin on things. It's like politics, RM, and you want them to elect you.
Best of luck!
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Sam Kenobi Not a Duke
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:50 pm |
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1. When I was 18 I worked for about a year on weekends and sometimes Thursdays and Fridays at the Expo Center doing food service.... I loved it, it was a very cool environment, different shows were always coming so there were always lots and lots of different people there, and I really liked everyone I worked with.
2. Starting up was alright, but I agree that the most annoying thing is getting trained in everything.
3. Make sure you call them a lot before you get that interview. Kust be all.... "Hey, I was just wondering if you were looking at applications yet. I'm really excited to come work for you guys and blah blah blah." Let them know you're alive and responsible. I've got a few friends who work at B&N in my hometown.. you know. The one says that they're always looking for people to work in the Cafe.
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:54 pm |
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Sam Kenobi wrote: |
3. Ma,e sure you call them a lot before you get that interview. Kust be all.... "Hey, I was just wondering if you were looking at applications yet. I'm really excited to come work for you guys and blah blah blah." Let them know you're alive and responsible. I've got a few friends who work at B&N in my hometown.. you know. The one says that they're always looking for people to work in the Cafe. |
Well...Within reason. If they're not really even going to look at your application until October 20th, I'd wait until about the 20th or 21st until contacting them.
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Pan13 Lieutenant Commander
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:34 pm |
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i've never actually worked....
i don't know if you can consider that as a "real job", but next week i'll start to help kids with their homework...i'll do that twice a week and i get 9� per hour
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