The Role Playing Legacy Of STV... is it over?

[Cathexis]

Yeah,

I must say...I've created a lot of RPGs in the past, and I must admit that I, too, have seen a decline in activity and enthusiasm for them...

I miss several of the old, old RPGs..especially the Voyager one...and I wish that when I re-opened it, it had been more active...but, alas, that did not happen.

C'est la vie !!

Hey Ziona !!!!!!! Yeah...and what happened to Jeff--I see him around, barely ever ?? Tobias is still 'round, he just doesn't roleplay...

Anyhow, I'd love to have fewer HIGHER quality RPGs with large casts...that would be awesome, like DSG.

My thing is, I like FUTURISTIC RPGs...stuff based on the future (duh)....whether it be Star Trek or otherwise....I like RPGs with war archs..but I don't like how the story becomes all about the war....nothing else happens..and that becomes quite boring.

We need a BRAND spanking new RPG that really celebrates the Roddenberry Vision !!! Put ST: XI to SHAME !

I have a story I've been working on...it takes place MAINLY on an undiscovered planet and then switches around a bit back to Starfleet/the Federation...in the future..around Voyager's timeframe, if not just after Voyager returns...and...I'll make a thread with more info. Yeah, it's Trek-based. Let me know if you want to know more !!

[Republican_Man]

I don't know if starting up all these new RPGs is a good idea, to be honest. There's such a shortage of RP'ers as it is that it's probably gonna be best to focus more on those that are already around and have some minute chance of success because, frankly, we're gonna get nowhere if we keep having RPGs die out and then try to make new ones to inevitably die out afterwards.

Honestly, I see STV RPG prospects as continuing to get worse. DSG hasn't had substantive posting in days, almost no RPD RPGs are getting activity, I haven't seen a sinlge post in the RPG forum RPGs in a while...What we need is not new RPGs, but some way to reenergize the base through existing RPGs, or to join together as members to support the construction of one grand RPG that all of us who are trying to reenergize RPGs can do.

That is to say, all of us who are complaining about a lack of activity, etc. should, under that model, get together, conceivably in this topic or the one Cathexis just started, and work out one RPG that we can all work on. I'm in DSG and Telarus (off-site), as well as mine, but with the ending of Interstellar Revolution I am open to join one more RPG, but I want to join one that's just right and has a chance for not only activity, but for success.

This is why I propose the aforementioned model: one that would bring STV's greatest minds together to make an RPG that could remotely compare to DSG in brilliance (and I do mean that DSG is brilliant). This would be a formidable, technical task that might require the ending of other RPGs, but I think it might be worthwhile for the future of STV RP'ing.

STV's dying, I'm sorry to say, and its RPGs are dying along with it. It is imperative that we do what we can to re-energize the RPGs so that we may, in turn, help to re-energize STV.

[Cathexis]

Yeah,

I have to say that...while there have been many excellent storyline ideas and RPGs here at STV in the past, they've died out--Pathfinder had 504 pages, that's BEAUCOUP !! DSG is also an excellent RPG, although I'm not a member...

RM, I like what you're saying about creating an RPG for all the people who are complaining about lack of activity, etc.

I have all sorts of ideas, what I need is a team of helpful, active RPG founders/builders/creators (whom I consider to be colleagues) to help me create one that offers something to people who are out there looking for something NEW and EXCITING in which to participate.

It's not just about time constraints. There are many out there who've got time, or who can make the time....but they're just not interested in what STV is offering. I think DSG is a neat RPG, but I wouldn't call it BRILLIANT and AMAZING. It's not my cup of tea. That's all.

So...what we need is either to re-vamp an old RPG and give it new life with dedicated RPers or start over and create a new one. Either way works, as long as we have a decent number of ACTIVE MEMBERS.

I'd love to give my idea a go...and I know several RPers (RM being one of them) who would be outstanding additions to a brand spanking new RPG that really has something to it...

Adventure/Exploration/Discovery
New Technology
Romance
War-archs
Internal/External Threats
Tragedy
Hope

[Founder]

DSG is "neat"?

I agree with RM that it's not a good idea to continue making new RPGs. We simply don't have enough members to continue that. Not to be offensive, but a lot of the people suggesting to make new RPGs are not the most...consistent of posters.

I think the reason the majority of these people don't want to join DSG or RPs that RM or Lord Borg, etc make are people who want to be in control of the RPG. Personally, I don't think that's right. RM and Lord Borg and some others have proven to be loyal GMs. A loyal GM is better than someone with ideas for RPGs they will never utilize becaue they're rarely around.

Do I think STV's RPG era is at a decline? Yes, but not because of lack of RPers but because of RPers. There are many people I've seen here say they want to RP again, yet they don't join others RPG, they only make RPGs, placing themselves as captain.

There is a lack of unity in the RPG area on STV. That is why it's failing.

[Republican_Man]

Founder, I didn't consider that before, but I think you hit it right on the dial. It's not a lack of RP'ers so much as a lack of people willing to unify in an RPG and be loyal to it.

The whole reason I was about to lock Vision of the Future was because I had an idea for an RPG to commemorate 9/11, which I intended as a patriotic thing. That got three interested people, which wasn't enough. Interstellar Revolution also failed due to a few reasons, but chief among them due to no one posting, and an inability to get enough members to keep it going.

I'm going to continue Vision, at least I plan to, but I haven't seen any interest from current members in joining. La Forge hasn't been around, for instance, and Tach has said he can't post anymore, which is understandable and the case for everyone. But I haven't seen any interest in continuing it from any of the other members, no matter how many times I PMed them about it in the past.

I've wanted to post my continuation post of the last dream there, but I don't see any interest from other members in posting, and ability to post in it as well.

At any rate, I agree. Loyal members, unity, and a strong GM is key to the success of RPGs and STV RP'ing. And yet this is something we are very much lacking, but this is why DSG has been so successful--because it has all of that, and an excellent storyline to boot. There has been no RPG, at least as long as I've been here, like DSG, and it's a beacon of what an RPG should be in order to succeed.

[Founder]

Yeah, exactly.

I think too many people simply don't want to be in a subordinate role. It always has to be some kind of command. It doesn't work that way. That's like me joining this site and wanting to be a mod as soon as I join. You have to work your way up...

[Republican_Man]

I, personally, like being XO or tactical/security. I don't really like any other positions, but I can deal with a subordinate role, if that's the case. I've always liked such roles, even if Captain has its perks, hence why I'm trying to keep Vision around as long as I can.

The one thing that would keep me from creating another RPG at this point, however, is the fact that it probably won't get anywhere, hence I why I especially don't want to close Vision, because it'd be just too hard to get a new one off the ground.

[Cathexis]

I've only Captained a few of my own RPGs, in retrospect.

Many of the RPGs I've started, I haven't simply abandoned myself. In fact, I put quite a lot into my RPGs to make them seem interesting. I also receive some high praise for the storylines...

Forgive me if I seem defensive, but I am feeling a little offended. I love to RP...I spend most of my spare time roleplaying...and I don't mind subordinate roles at all; sometimes, they're a lot less stressful because I'm not being depended on AS MUCH to be posting every five minutes. It doesn't mean I'm not active--I am.

There are so many RPGs I've joined in the past that simply went inactive...others I've made and they, too, went inactive.

It truly is about RPers, not so much about RPGs themselves.

I played several subordinate roles (Voyager, USS Sentra, Borg Cube: Disconnected, War of the Worlds, USS Serenity etc etc--just to name a FEW).

Usually when I join an RPG that's already got a fair few players, I find myself a bit lost...and yes, it's true that I don't always like to start out at the bottom of the chain..that's partly because I have quite a lot of experience and I feel like I deserve a more prominent position on the ship.

That's not really an issue, though...99% of the time.

I'm just trying to reiterate the fact that I love to RP, and I don't care if I'M the Captain (or other leader of some kind). All that matters is those few hours a day where I can escape the troubles and stress in real life.



I'm ready to join any RPG, lead position or not. Or make one, IF and only IF there is a decent amount of RPers out there willing to keep the RPG alive.

Creating new RPGs is a necessity in a way because you can't blame someone for getting bored of a storyline...or having an idea for a new game.

Most of the time, and I'm very choosy, I look at all the currently running RPGs and I'm just not interested in joining. I don't think there's anything wrong with creating one of my own as long as I am dedicated to it.

I was so dedicated to Star Trek: Cathexis that I created a website for it...it went on for over 300 posts and gradually, members began to drop out for various reasons. Even I, mainly due to several stressful goings-on in my life, had to take a break from the Roleplaying, but I went back and I tried to get things going. Before I ever left the site, however, I'd already lost a substantial amount of players. It's sort of why I didn't feel I was missing out on a lot when I DID leave.


Anyway, Star Trek: Cathexis/Eye of the Needle will continue in my fanfic archives...and possibly as an RPG later on when I really can devote all the time in the world to promoting it and keeping the storyline afloat.

Right now, I want an RPG with an ORIGINAL, brand spanking NEW approach to Star Trek, in the same way I want an ORIGINAL, brand spanking NEW Star Trek movie/TV show.

It's about the future, creating something NEW and EXCITING !



No offense meant, of course. I love you all.

[Founder]

No offense taken or intended when I posted. I didn't mean you specifically actually when I posted.

It is good that you are willing to take subordinate roles and it is a shame that the current RPGs aren't interesting enough for you to join. I've found you to be an excellant RPer.

I think the RPG area is slowly starting to look up though.

[Republican_Man]

My RPG, Vision of the Future, which is in the RPGs forum and en-route to being revived, would definitely benefit from your membership, especially with the route we're going to go in it

[Spellbinder Marik]

[Republican_Man]

I can't say, but you need to, IMO, have some writing skills and ability to make up scenerios and travel around an unfamiliar world with a general guidemap, your imagination, and an ability to cope with unorthodox and random situations. I guess that's how I could put it.
I don't want to give it away, but it's very much related to SW KOTOR, if you know what that is, and a planet based on the planet Taris is a major world where those things will come into play.

[La Forge]

Hey, I take the subordinate roles, all the time. Anyways, I agree that the board is dying, but, I am happy that the regulars are still around to keep it going...just barely. Sorry about my leaving, too. Heh. I'll be back, once my internet is back.

[John Luck Pickard]

I'm a noob when its comes to RPG'ing, so I was all excited when I joined the Skylark. Unfortunately, it seems there's not much action there...or anywhere except Deep Space Guardian. Is this lack commonplace, or is it just the timing of school starting? I realize this is what the topic is alluding to, but I'm confused to see members of DSG not post in the other RPG's that they are a part of. Maybe I'll just try and join DSG eventually so that I can see more.

[Founder]

[Lord Borg]

[Founder]

[Lord Borg]