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Republican_Man
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 Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:20 pm Iraqi Authorities: Al Qaeda in Iraq No. 2 Arrested |
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More excellent news coming out of Iraq today.
| Quote: | Iraqi Authorities: Al Qaeda in Iraq No. 2 Arrested]
BAGHDAD, Iraq � Iraqi and coalition forces have arrested the second most senior figure in Al Qaeda in Iraq, Iraq's national security adviser announced on Sunday, saying the group now suffered from a "serious leadership crisis."
Read more at FoxNews.com. |
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CJ Cregg
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| Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:27 am |
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Excellent news, but i doubt it will have any significant impact.
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WeAz
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| Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:59 am |
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At least we're hurting morale in Al-Qaeda.
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PrankishSmart
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| Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:26 am |
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| WeAz wrote: | | At least we're hurting morale in Al-Qaeda. |
The question is, is that a good thing or bad thing for the western world.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:28 am |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | WeAz wrote: | | At least we're hurting morale in Al-Qaeda. |
The question is, is that a good thing or bad thing for the western world. |
And how is that a bad thing? There's no question that hurting the morale of al-Qaeda is a good thing, none at all.
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Hitchhiker
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| Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:45 am |
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Is it just me, or does it seem like every time we nab the "No. 2" guy in al-Qaeda, the No. 3 guy gets a promotion?
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WeAz
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| Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:19 pm |
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Thats how it works.
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Founder
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| Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:53 pm |
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If I had an nickle for everytime a number 2 guy was arrested...
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:55 pm |
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So he'll be replaced. The number three guy and so on are not as strong and effective as the others. Zarqawi died, so he was replaced. Then al-Masri's number 2 is arrested and will be replaced, but with someone who was fourth along the chain prior to Zarqawi's death. The lower in the former chain they go the less effective the leadership is.
It's good news, all the time, seeing the leadership of al-Qaeda dismantled bit by bit, replacement or no replacement.
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Hitchhiker
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| Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:13 am |
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Great job, men! We're winning the war on terrorism by attrition! Woooo!
Look, I am not attempting to spoil the mood, because this is good news. However, this sort of approach is not really the best way to deal with a cohesive terrorist organisation like al-Qaeda. These people who are getting promoted are not necessarily going to be less effective. They've just been waiting for their superiors to get killed. Plus, now instead of knowing the enemy's capability, it introduces a new wildcard element that requires observation again in order to accurately predict its actions. "The enemy you know..."
Due to al-Qaeda's nature, it isn't possible to cut its head off and watch the snake die. Instead, a simultaneous strike along several key points must be undertaken in order to truly eliminate it. Obviously that isn't viable at this time, since we simply don't know where such strongholds or cells exist. But this is why stabilising the Middle East and establishing peace in the region is so important; it cuts off the resources that al-Qaeda needs to function and undermines their objectives.
The war against terrorism is not going to be won on a military battlefield. It can only be won on the cultural battlefield; victory must be obtained by disarming al-Qaeda's true weapon, the mistrust amongst Western and Middle Eastern cultures.
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Lord Borg
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| Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:16 am |
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Well said, Tach. The only way victory can be achived is though those means. Or the cutting off of recources, although they seem to be able to recover from that....
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Hitchhiker
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| Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:23 am |
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| Lord Borg wrote: | | Well said, Tach. The only way victory can be achived is though those means. Or the cutting off of recources, although they seem to be able to recover from that.... |
Well, a stable peace in the Middle East would cut off the resources in the sense that countries such as Iran would no longer back terrorist organisations such as Hizballah.
Terrorists rely on popular support in the sense that they have to present themselves as "freedom fighters". If public opinion in their homelands changes to view them as those who are upsetting the new balance, then they lose support. Recruitment goes down, money stops flowing in, those funny hidden weapon depots that were "overlooked" until recently suddenly get raided by the government, and of course, they lose their satellite TV hookup! 
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PrankishSmart
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| Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:52 am |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | PrankishSmart wrote: | | WeAz wrote: | | At least we're hurting morale in Al-Qaeda. |
The question is, is that a good thing or bad thing for the western world. |
And how is that a bad thing? There's no question that hurting the morale of al-Qaeda is a good thing, none at all. |
Because hurting morale of whole terrorist organisations may help induce vengeance on their part?
I doubt the leader which was arrested would be of real use and assist with investigations... I'm only trying to be realistic here.
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