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 Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:27 pm Iran opens nuclear reactor, defying U.N. |
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| Quote: | | KHONDAB, Iran - Iran's hard-line president on Saturday inaugurated a heavy-water production plant, a facility the West fears will be used to develop a nuclear bomb, as Tehran remained defiant ahead of a U.N. deadline that could lead to sanctions. The U.N. has called on Tehran to stop the separate process of uranium enrichment � which also can be used to create nuclear weapons � by Thursday or face economic and political sanctions. |
Source: http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iran
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Micteth-Son of Udas
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| Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:50 pm |
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I say let them build, let them go ahead and build there Reactor, and SO what if they make a nuke or two? We got them, Russian has them, SEVERAL counties have nukes, whats one more? I say this, If they do build nukes, then go and fire them off, Iran will become a big radation feild cuase others will lob some nukes back at them, Possably cuasing nuclear war, and thats allways a possiblity at any minute, not likely but POSSIBLE
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:56 am |
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What do we expect from those idiots? Of course they're not going to comply with the Un Insecurity Council, especially with all the stuff (or lack thereof) Russia and China are doing.
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Dirt
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| Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:52 am |
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We don't even know yet wheter or not they are actually are going to build any nuclear arms. I don't think it's a good developement for the power balance in the world, but maybe the problem lies in the domination of the western world.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:56 pm |
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| Dirt wrote: | | We don't even know yet wheter or not they are actually are going to build any nuclear arms. |
Oh, yes, because a country sitting on as much oil as they are really needs nuclear power. Right 
Btw, Iran Test-Fires Sub-to-Surface Missile in Persian Gulf
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PrankishSmart
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:54 am |
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| Dirt wrote: | | but maybe the problem lies in the domination of the western world. |
I would have to agree.
Besides, nuclear power is a lot cleaner than other types of power.
UN has to face the fact that nuclear is the inevitable future for the world.
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Admiral Dani�l
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:58 am |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | Dirt wrote: | | but maybe the problem lies in the domination of the western world. |
I would have to agree.
Besides, nuclear power is a lot cleaner than other types of power.
UN has to face the fact that nuclear is the inevitable future for the world. |
May I remind you of Tsjernobyl? If that would happen again then everyone would be hiding in their safety bunker, waiting for the Nuclear power plant to explode.
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WeAz
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:16 pm |
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Chernobyl was a result of bad inspections, poor equipment, and shoddy workmanship. Not a problem with Nuclear power. Just the people running it.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:18 pm |
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So you guys honestly think that this is a result of Iran wanting to shift over to nuclear energy? If so, how misguided you are...
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WeAz
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:52 pm |
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Of course they want to make WMD's. But they also want to move to Nuc power at the same time.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:58 pm |
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Why? What motive do they have when they're sitting on all that oil and natural gas? I think it's all WMDs, nothing else.
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Lord Borg
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:45 pm |
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Well, the motive to that, is that it's that much more they can sell, as they wouldn't be using it.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:47 pm |
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Come on. You don't really believe that Iran, which has stated that it wants the destruction of Israel, has any intention of actually using nuclear energy for power.
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Lord Borg
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:50 pm |
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I don't, I'm simply stating why the could POSSIBLY use it for something other then WMD.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:54 pm |
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Heh. Interesting news today coming from our friend Ahmedinejad.
Iranian President Challenges Bush to Televised Debate
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Hitchhiker
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| Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:59 pm |
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I say go for it.
The American people get to watch Bush stand up to the Iranian president, and Iran gets the satisfaction of the U.S. talking to it (they want attention). It's a win-win scenario.
Plus it will no doubt be entertaining. 
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Seven of Nine
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I'd watch 
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:26 pm |
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Fox News Breaking News Bar says, without link right now,
Iran Defies U.N. Deadline to End Uranium Enrichment Program
This doesn't come as a surprise to me.
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Arellia
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| Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:35 pm |
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| PrankishSmart wrote: | | Dirt wrote: | | but maybe the problem lies in the domination of the western world. |
I would have to agree.
Besides, nuclear power is a lot cleaner than other types of power.
UN has to face the fact that nuclear is the inevitable future for the world. |
I disagree. Nuclear waste and other various hazards of nuclear products aren't worth whatever "benefits" there are. There are other, better alternatives to nuclear energy. And I doubt energy efficiency is the goal of Iran.
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WeAz
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| Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:39 pm |
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Getting the ability for Nuclear Power is just a helpful effect of them making WMD's.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:03 pm |
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Here's a link to the story: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211604,00.html
What's the Un Insecurity Council gonna do now?
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WeAz
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| Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:53 pm |
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These reactors are breeders, not powerplants. They need to be taken out. Problem is, if we do that, Iran's propaganda machine will spin it.
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PrankishSmart
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| Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:27 am |
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| Arellia wrote: | | PrankishSmart wrote: | | Dirt wrote: | | but maybe the problem lies in the domination of the western world. |
I would have to agree.
Besides, nuclear power is a lot cleaner than other types of power.
UN has to face the fact that nuclear is the inevitable future for the world. |
I disagree. Nuclear waste and other various hazards of nuclear products aren't worth whatever "benefits" there are. There are other, better alternatives to nuclear energy. And I doubt energy efficiency is the goal of Iran. |
Perhaps.
But it is a lot cleaner than burning something like coal. Hydro electricity is very high power too to compete with Nuclear, but is very much location specific. Wind and sun provide very low power output for the extremely high cost (not just the installation, but ongoing maintenence).
I realise that energy efficiency is not Irans goal. I was just throwing out some extra thought into the topic.
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Micteth-Son of Udas
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| Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:54 pm |
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I dont see the problem here! Like really, WE HAVE NUKES, RUSSIA has more nukes then we do, and a bunch of other countires do as well, us telling Iran not to build nuclear technologies is like telling someone that they cant have an MP3 player, its a technology that is newer then what they have now
anda counter point "Iran wants Isrial off the map" Well lets lay down the steps of this happening. Iran Builds there Nuke, world goes up in arms, they lob it into Isrial, america and other world powers get pissed, they lob more nukes into Iran. Iran would be dead, and if they dont see that building then using their nuke would lead to their distruction they are stupid and deserve the death they will get. but i say this:
LET THEM BE!!!!!!!
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Republican_Man
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| Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:59 pm |
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Wow, Micteth. That's really frightening if you actually believe that and are fine with innocent Israelis dying because the US can respond in kind.
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