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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:59 pm |
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News today, including comments relayed to Prime Minister Tony Blair today by the President at a G8 Summit closing lunch.
Quote: | Microphone Picks Up Bush's Private Comments Among World Leaders
ST. PETERSBURG, RUSSIA - It wasn't meant to be overheard. Privateluncheon conversations among world leaders, picked up by a microphone, provided a rare window into both banter and substance � including President Bush cursing Hezbollah's attacks against Israel.
Read more at FoxNews.com. |
The Bush comment, btw, as relayed by that article:
Quote: | "See, the irony is that what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this (expletive) and it's over," Bush told Blair as he chewed on a buttered roll. |
The expletive was the "s" word.
More news now, starting with the Israeli PM standing strong in the face of international criticism:
Quote: | Israeli Prime Minister Defiant Against Hezbollah
JERUSALEM � Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Monday the fighting in Lebanon would end when Hezbollah guerrillas freed two captured soldiers, rocket attacks on Israel stopped and the Lebanese army deployed along the border.
Read more at FoxNews.com.
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Quote: | U.S. Says Security Council Should Delay Israel-Hezbollah Action Until U.N. Mission Returns From Mideast
UNITED NATIONS � The U.N. Security Council should delay any action on the escalating conflict between Israel and Lebanon's Hezbollah guerrillas until a U.N. mission now in the Mideast trying to defuse the crisis returns to New York later this week, U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said Monday.
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Quote: | Israeli Warplanes Bomb Palestinian Foreign Ministry for Second Time
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip � Israel sent a warplane to bomb the Palestinian Foreign Ministry building in Gaza City early Monday, the second airstrike on the ministry in a week, pushing ahead with its three-week offensive in Gaza after militants killed two soldiers and captured a third.
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Quote: | Crude Prices Volatile on Middle East Rumors
LONDON � Oil slipped from record highs on Monday in volatile trading as fighting raged between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas.
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Quote: | New Guerrilla Rocket Attacks Hit Northern Israel
A new round of rocket attacks showered several northern Israeli cities Monday night, hitting several targets including a hospital and shattering a brief lull in a day fraught with violence.
Guerrillas launched rockets from southern Lebanon striking a hospital in Safed, the city of Haifa and the border town of Kiryat Shemona, according to Israeli security officials. There were no immediate reports of injuries.
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Puck The Texan
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:35 pm |
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The violence on both sides is despicable. Neither the terrorists act, nor this dramatic response are justified. Yes, Israel must react, but this response exceeds anything that was necessary, especially because of the over 179 civilian deaths and the suffering that is being forced upon the innocent population. While these targets may be considered military targets, it is quite clear who they are hurting. While Hezbollah is able to continue it's attacks, the death toll on innocent people increases along with their suffering. Soon the citizens in many areas will be out of fuel, and the damage to the transportation system will prevent food and supplies from being brought in or out. This response by Israel is punishing too many innocent people for it to be justafiable. At the same time unfortunately you have Hezbollah firing rockets into Israel bringing even more damage to the innocent citizens of Israel and has killed 12 Israelis. When this amount of death and suffering is being inflicted, neither side deserves to get away with "the benefit of the doubt". Both sides need to be held accountable for this case in which they have clearly both overstepped their bounds.
Nothing good is going to come out of this violence. The only thing we will have if they don't stop soon, is the threat of the entire region becoming involved in armed conflict. The international community needs to call for both Israel and Hezbollah to stop immediately. As is clear though, the United Nations is doing a good job at doing what it usually does, which is nothing much.
Edit: They want the Lebanese Army deployed? Is this a joke or something? The Lebanese army is certainly a joke in and of itself due to the fact that they were not allowed to rearm in 1989 and they have no warplanes.
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Puck The Texan
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:11 pm |
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Quote: | Syria offers safe haven to US nationals fleeing Lebanon
The Syrian embassy said it was offering "safe haven" to Americans and other citizens wishing to flee Lebanon, where nearly 200 civilians have been killed during a massive Israeli military bombardment. |
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/17/060717192623.xnq334rc.html
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:17 pm |
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Unfortunately Americans are being sucked into the conflict.
Quote: | Americans, Europeans Begin to Evacuate Lebanon Amid Mideast Conflict
BEIRUT, Lebanon � Westerners fled by land, sea and air as Israel launched three waves of bombings on southern Beirut and on a Lebanese army base in the early hours Tuesday. |
And the violence just keeps on coming.
Quote: | Israeli Warplanes Strike Southern Suburbs of Beirut
BEIRUT, Lebanon � Israeli warplanes launched waves of bombings on south Beirut, on a Lebanese army base and on a coastal road north of the Lebanese capital in the early hours Tuesday, witnesses and Lebanese media said. |
And Iran's out there again...
Quote: | Iranian Foreign Minister: Cease-Fire, Prisoner Swap Would Be Fair
DAMASCUS, Syria � Iran's foreign minister said Monday that a cease-fire and an exchange of prisoners would be acceptable and fair in the Israeli-Lebanese conflict. |
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:25 pm |
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Yet another big news day from the Middle East, as related to us by FoxNews.
Quote: | U.S. Fears Hezbollah Attacks on Americans During Evacuations
BEIRUT, Lebanon � The United States fears a Hezbollah attack during its evacuation of up to 5,000 Americans from war-torn Beirut, and is working with Israel to coordinate their safety, the U.S. military said Tuesday.
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Quote: | In the Face of War, Some Americans Brave Trip to Israel
NEW YORK � Ellen Orlanski wasn't going to let war stop her from flying to Israel to see her daughter.
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Quote: | Humanitarian Effort Focuses On Victims of Conflict in Middle East
U.S.-based humanitarian groups mobilized Tuesday to aid Lebanese and Israeli citizens, and locate Americans caught up in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hezbollah guerrillas.
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borgslayer Rear Admiral
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Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:24 pm |
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Once Hezbollah returns the soldiers the fighting will cease. However in this case they will never return the soldiers even if Israel agreed to a trade. In which Israel will never agree too any trade because Ehud Olmert is not your typical prime minister, he will never ever negiotiate with terrorist.
Now in the midst of this chaos the U.N. Nations will send troops that will do absolutely nothing like the troops on the ground now. They will stand around observe the fighting but do nothing to quell the violence. However with international pressure NATO and the European Union will give in and send peacekeeping troops that will do the job of eradicating pockets of Hezbollah terrorist helping Israel defeat the terror group.
The United States will probably send food, water, and medical aids to the region since its tied up in the war in Iraq & Afgahanistan cannot send any troops at the present time. Other countries such as Japan, China, and Australia might do the same.
After most of the fighting is done other countries from around the world will send money aids, food, water, medical, and housing supplies such as tents.
I think this is how the conflict is going to go down.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:30 am |
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I think that analysis is pretty accurate, actually.
News from the war front now as Nazareth, the city famed by Jesus, which is being pelted at by Hezbollah.
Quote: | Rocket Attack on Holy City of Nazareth Kills 2 Children, 1 Adult
JERUSALEM � A Hezbollah rocket slammed into a building Wednesday in the mainly Arab town of Nazareth, the hometown of Jesus, killing three people, including two children, Israeli authorities said.
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Quote: | Cruise Liner With 1,000 Americans Leave Beirut Port for Cyprus
BEIRUT, Lebanon � An eight-deck cruise liner carrying more than 1,000 Americans sailed out of Beirut's port Wednesday, the first mass U.S. evacuation from Lebanon since Israeli airstrikes started more than a week ago. The U.S. Marine general coordinating the evacuation says 6,000 Americans will be out of Lebanon by the weekend.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
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Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:29 pm |
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Really,.... vacationing in one of those unstable regions, I will never understand it. I read an artical on IMDB today, the home alone kid, and the one that played jackie in that 70's show were there, It took several days for him to convince her they need to leave....
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Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:17 pm |
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Israel says it's targeted a bunker. Hezbollah says that Israel targeted a mosque or whatever that was under construction. This would seem to be "he says/she says" on a massive scale. I do think, however, Israel has been pushed enough. It's incredibly naive for people to think that they wouldn't hit back.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:21 pm |
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I agree; it is quite naive to think that.
And yeah, if that bunker's a mosque, then it's an underground mosque, and I wasn't aware that they were making those.
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Puck The Texan
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Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:25 pm |
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Yeah, this is just stupid. I'm not happy about this, at all. If they should be helping anyone, it should be Israel. That way they can end the war more quickly and aid Israel in stopping Hezbollah. This is only going to worsen the situation 10-fold.
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Puck The Texan
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Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:26 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | I wasn't aware of that discovery. Do you have an article on it? |
I know it is a little late, but it looks like the article on the Iranians at the North Korean missile test just resurfaced on DrudgeReport.com . Here it is if you'd like:
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:38 pm |
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What does this tell you about the situation in which we're in? Iran and North Korea, working together on WMD programs? Regardless of what, exactly, they did, this is a dangerous situation now, it really is.
Btw, you've gotta be a pretty conservative guy to actually read the Drudge Report
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Puck The Texan
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Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:42 pm |
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Republican_Man wrote: | What does this tell you about the situation in which we're in? Iran and North Korea, working together on WMD programs? Regardless of what, exactly, they did, this is a dangerous situation now, it really is.
Btw, you've gotta be a pretty conservative guy to actually read the Drudge Report |
I heart the Drudge Report . I hate the page setup on FoxNews.com, CNN always seems late, or to be missing stories. That's why Drudge Report is my home page...it's up to date, and has a simple layout.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
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Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:33 pm |
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Yes, well, let us all remember how easy it is to please Puck!
But now the test missile is found? BAH....
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:18 pm |
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News today, coming from Secretary Rice.
Quote: | Rice Aims to Achieve Lasting Peaceful Conditions on Mideast Trip
WASHINGTON � Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, heading for a weekend trip to the troubled Middle East, said she would work with allies in the region to help create conditions for "stability and lasting peace."
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:06 pm |
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I wish her the best of luck, she's pretty brave to go over there in admist of all that fighting.
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:17 pm |
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The goal is to eradicate terrorist around the world and seeing as how Hezbollah is a terrorist group its not hard to understand the goal of the IDF.
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:24 pm |
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They're more than a terrorist group, which kind of makes the situation a bit more complicated. Things really aren't all that black and white.
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Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:43 pm |
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They're a political party, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that Hezbollah is a terrorist group. But yes, it does make things more complicated.
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Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:01 pm |
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FOX NEWS ALERT
Israel Enters Lebanon
Yes, Israel has entered southern Lebanon after warning the Lebanese to move away to prevent casualties. I think that it's about time they're doing this because a ground assault is much more effective than an air one and should limit casualties far better.
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Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:28 pm |
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Hope they they invade quickly and effectively. Wipe out Hezbollah
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:01 pm |
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Wow. Looks like our Secretary of State is really putting her life on the line.
Quote: | Rice Makes Surprise Trip to Beirut
BEIRUT, Lebanon � In a surprise visit to Beirut, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice praised the beleaguered prime minister of Lebanon on Monday for his courage in struggling to contain the fighting between the Hezbollah militia and Israel.
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More news:
Quote: | Israeli Ground Forces Push Deeper Into Lebanon
ON THE ISRAEL-LEBANON BORDER � Heavy fighting erupted Monday as Israeli ground forces pushed further into Lebanon, entering another Hezbollah stronghold, as more Hezbollah rockets rained down on northern Israel.
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Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:27 pm |
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Quote: | Rice Wants Urgent, Enduring Peace to Mideast Turmoil
RAMALLAH, West Bank � Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, in a frenetic set of meetings amid Israeli-Hezbollah fighting, declared Tuesday the United States wants an "urgent and enduring" peace where problems are solved without war.
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Quote: | U.S. Gives Israel Timeline for Assault on Hezbollah, Official Says
NABATIYEH, Lebanon � The United States has given Israeli forces between 10 and 14 days to finish dealing Hezbollah "a strategic blow," a senior Israeli Foreign Ministry official told FOX News, as both Israeli forces and Hezbollah guerrillas continued to volley rockets across the Lebanon-Israel border.
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