Conflict in the Middle East [Official Thread]

Republican_Man · **Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:16 pm**

Wow. Talk about climactic developments.
Three Fox articles about all this:

Republican_Man · **Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:09 pm**

War in the middle east has begun, it appears. What does this mean for mideast prospects? Does this mark a significant change in the War on Terror? Might the US--and should it--get involved in this conflict? Could this bring Iran into war with Israel? Could these developments breed all-out war that will engulf the entire Middle East? Is this another front, as I said, in the War on Terror, whether it involves the US or not? Could this result in a true world war that all of us can agree upon?

With the situation in Israel, Palestine, and Lebanon, the conflict with Iran, the War in Iraq, conflict in Afganhistan, the possibility of Syrian involvement in this new development, and the general US-involved War on Terror, what does this mean for the world, the War on Terror, and the prospects of a World War? Just how serious do you think this whole situation is for the mideast, the US, and the world?

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

The world seems to be getting darker and darker each day. Everyday there more bad news from somewhere in the world.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Some related news....

Republican_Man · **Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:33 pm**

I wasn't aware of that discovery. Do you have an article on it? And yeah, all hell is breaking loose, it looks. We seriously could be on the brink of a world war that all of us can recognize. What do you guys think about that prospect?

And here's another development.

La Forge · **Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:52 pm**

World War? No.

Still, I think that the conflict in the Middle East has become out of control, as of late, and this just proves it. Personally, I think that the U.S. should stay out of the whole affair. I don't believe in Iraq, as it is, so, I don't want us getting involved in another affair.

Lastly...Well...This really comes as no suprise to me. That area of the world has been in conflict since the Bible days. I don't know if it will ever end.

Republican_Man · **Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:37 am**

More developments today coming out of Israel, Lebanon, and Iran.

Republican_Man · **Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:42 pm**

Breaking news warranting a new post now. Israel, it appears, has been attacked.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Republican_Man · **Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:10 pm**

More developments today. For one, an Iranian-made missile reportedly made with help from China and North Korea has been determined to strike Israel earlier.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

Republican_Man · **Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:55 pm**

Yep. I've been hearing all about that. Not only that, but for the first time in history oil barrel price is at $76.70 a barrel, which is going to shoot up the price of gas here in the US. (That's more reason to drill in the US and in US waters to obtain energy independence, btw.) This situation is going to hurt every prominent country in the Middle East and the world.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

I am very worried right now for the earth. Every corner of the globe has some threat. The worst thing is that most people don't even know that anything is actually going on! Well my friends anyway

borgslayer · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:11 am**

Here's the overall situation for Israel.

If they give in to the demands of Terrorist the Terrorist will do more kidnappings.

If they pull out of Gaza and the West Bank the Palestinian Militants will still launch attacks. They might also demand more land from Israel in the process.

The solution..to Israel's problem?

Take out all of Hezbollah & Hamas & All Palestinian Militants.
Take out Syria & Iran with the help of the International Community.
Rebuild Palestine, fix its roads, add schools, busnesses, and economically make Palestine better.

Israel only solution is too kill all the Terrorist in the region since no Terrorist in the region will ever agree to any peace with Israel. As crazy as this may sound its absolutely true.

Republican_Man · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:41 am**

You are precisely correct in essentially saying that all the terrorists want is the destruction of Israel. That's all Arafat ever wanted, and yet for some reason he got the Nobel Peace Prize, even though he didn't...make...peace. Odd, isn't it? But I digress.
The point is, Israel gave the Palestinians Gaza and a few other locations in the last two years, and yet that did nothing to quell the terrorism. Shows you what the terrorists really want, and it isn't peace or land.

Republican_Man · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:59 am**

Big developments today out of the Middle East. I guess I'm pretty much STV's Middle East War reporter

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

I feel horrible for all of the ordinary Lebanese citizens who never did anything to deserve this response. Also, I am rather concerned that Israel may be taking this a bit too far, but we'll see.

Republican_Man · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:22 pm**

They might be, but what would the US do were eight Mexican immigrant terrorists (hypothetically speaking) to come into the United States and steal two American soldiers. How would we respond?
While I do feel horrible for all of the ordinary Lebanese, I'm not going to bash Israel for doing what they have to do. Why is it that when the terrorists do something there, there's no uproar, but when Israel does something, there is an uproar. It's an "over-reaction" and whatnot (no, I'm not saying you said that). Well, I for one am not going to stand for it. When innocents die on both sides it's tragic, but what is Israel supposed to do? Continue to allow these terrorist attacks to occur? They have no choice but to respond when the terrorists aren't accepting any peace offerings.
But let�s all consider one major factor in this: Iran. It really looks like, and is believed by most analysts, Iran is puppeteer this, trying to divert attention away from its nuclear program and what happens.

Republican_Man · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:01 pm**

More critical developments and articles right now. But first, I think the subject should be changed to "War in the Middle East," don't you?

Anyways, developments on what I just posted.

Arellia · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:56 pm**

Lord Borg · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:58 pm**

I agree, we shouldn't get involved, sadly, I am positive we will.

Republican_Man · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:03 pm**

The problem is, we're an ally of Israel--and their closest one, at that. Therefore, do we not have an obligation to support our allies if they request assistance, especially when we're critical to their survival? (Yes, I know they haven't requested our assistance.) And what about our interests there? If the middle east is engulfed in war, and it spreads to Afganhistan and/or Iraq, that would affect us directly. We are also affected by the rising price of oil and other interests invested in the mideast. I'm not so sure that we can stay out of the conflict if it engulfs more countries than it already is and continues along the path on which it is for some time.

Arellia · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:09 pm**

The issue of being an ally, I would simply have to say I don't know. Send in a few troops of support? I could see that. A few thousand troops of support? Not at this point. As far as Afghanistan and Iraq, I think it's regrettable that those countries are our responsibility now. If something involves them, we just... fight the war for them? I wish that weren't the case, but it seems like with the U.S. orchestrating everything else, people could extend it to that. Our interests? What are our interests there, exactly? Just oil? 'Cause if it is just oil, I'm not very interested. I would like to see oil come to such a crisis that people do what we should've done years ago--I don't see it happening otherwise.

Founder · **Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:25 pm**