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tomparis
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 Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:23 am How do you drive? |
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I know someone made this, but it was a while ago, and, since we likely have more drivers, there'll be more posts.
Mine's somewhat complicated to explain. My right hand is at 3 o'clock holding the steering wheel like your supposed to  . My left hand, I'll need to put a picture of the steering wheel.
My left hand, I rest my index finger at 3 o'clock to the top left of the horn, and my thumb to the bottom left of the horn, and I rest my arm on the armrest.
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webtaz99
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| Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:23 am |
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Where you rest your hands is much less important than how you pay attention to your surroundings.
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Untitled
Commander
Joined: 02 Jul 2006
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Location: abandoned
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| Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:23 pm |
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I'm pretty aggressive. Which is strange because i'm pretty much considered a pushover. I think I get an adrealine rush when I drive, because I love driving fast and love racing random people. I get restless in behind slow drivers and I also hate other drivers. Most of them are so impolite and half the pop can't drive correctly. You have to be on your best guard when you drive.
Things I can't stand that people do when the drive include...
1. Not using their blinker to signal a turn. If your going to turn be polite and let others know you are going to turn instead of chancing it and having them bump into you because they didn't know you were going to turn. The human race isn't telepathic you know. If you can't use your blinker...why are you driving in the first place? Hell - it's the law. Use it.
2. Headlights on during the day. In my state it is not recquired to have them on during the day. So why are yours on? It's a waste of battery life. And you can't use them. What the hell is the point? It also bothers me when people turn them on way to early and the signal others to put them on too. It's still hrs before sundown and very bright - Why!?
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IntrepidIsMe
Pimp Handed
Joined: 14 Jun 2002
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Location: New York
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| Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:45 pm |
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About number one, if you're driving and you bump into someone who's turning, then you're most likely way too close. You would notice their decrease in speed and therefore decrease yours, too. In any case where somebody is rear-ended, it's always the person's fault who hit them, no matter what.
And about number two, what's wrong with headlights on during the day? It's safer and nobody is being hurt. Most truck companies make it standard policy to keep them on while driving all the time due to the fact that it's safer. Our cars have automatic lights, so I guess that isn't really a problem. And, through the power of google, statistics show that driving with your headlights on during the day decreases the chance of a day-time crash by 32%. That's actually rather high. And new cars in Canada, Sweden, and Finland are actually now required to have day-time running lights (they're on whenever the car is on). Crazy liberals, 
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Sam Kenobi
Not a Duke
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| Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:08 am |
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I drive with a right underhand at about 5 o'clock and left hand usually out the window.
I'm also pretty aggressive and have a heavy foot, but I've never gotten an accident. I like to think I'm really good at being a bad driver.... meaning I weave in and out of traffic a lot, but I'm good at it....? Probably not a good thing. But I always use my turn signal and cuss at those who don't.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Posts: 4425
Location: Dallas, TX
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| Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:15 am |
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Never grab up under-hand on the wheel, with your arm across the horn. Why? According to my driver training teacher--
"In a collision the airbag with deploy, you will break your arm, and then smack yourself in the face with your broken arm."
I took heed to this. I drive pretty well, for a new driver. I find I'm hyper-conscious of speed limits (The rest of my family is not), and I'm fairly cautious. I've only just gotten to liking driving... and to offering to drive when I feel the other person is even less competent than I.
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Sam Kenobi
Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003
Posts: 10373
Location: The 'Verse
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| Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:19 am |
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Oh... speeding is ok.... don't worry. I only got like... a $250 ticket. I mean... come on.... (that sucked)
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TrekkieMage
Office Junkie
Joined: 17 Oct 2004
Posts: 5335
Location: Hiding
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| Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:20 pm |
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How do I drive? I don't. I actually don't have my licence yet. I'm 18 and have had my permit for two years, but haven't done anything with it. But I did pass the test to get my pilots licence (just the written - don't have the hours or training to actually get the darn thing yet) 
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borgslayer
Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003
Posts: 2646
Location: Las Vegas
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| Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:21 pm |
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I follow the rules of the road.
I dislike people who drive while talking on their cell phones.
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Oliver
Thought Maker
Joined: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 6096
Location: Antwerp, Belgium
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| Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:49 pm |
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I'm an ok driver if I may say so myself.
But if you want to know how I hold my steering wheel? My left at 1 o'clock and my right on the gear. We Europeans have to gear up and down quite often...
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madlilnerd
Duchess of Dancemat
Joined: 03 Aug 2004
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Location: Slough, England
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| Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:41 pm |
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See, I'm not one of those who drives.
I'm one of those who annoys drivers by jaywalking and keys cars that are bad for the environment (or the cars of those who I know have run down pets within the month).
That's how I function. I doubt I'll ever learn to drive.
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Sam Kenobi
Not a Duke
Joined: 13 Jun 2003
Posts: 10373
Location: The 'Verse
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:44 am |
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Wow... that's so cool. I'm so jealous of your coolness of being a cool kid who likes to cooly key peoples' uncool cars. Really, that's got to take mad cool skills, being a hun dan like that.
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Puck
The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:14 am |
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I think I am a decent driver. I have never gotten pulled over by the cops, and since I live in Flower Mound, that is quite an accomplishment. Whether you say its because Im a good driver though, or if I am just lucky is up to you I guess. It sounds like I am a better driver than everyone else in here though considering what you all have said . I guess it is just us Texans being our Texan selves drive friendly  .
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Untitled
Commander
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:54 pm |
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| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | About number one, if you're driving and you bump into someone who's turning, then you're most likely way too close. You would notice their decrease in speed and therefore decrease yours, too. In any case where somebody is rear-ended, it's always the person's fault who hit them, no matter what. |
- It's common curtesy and it's the law. Plus that there are other accidents that happen than being rear ended because of a person turning too quickly. Just the other day someone cut infront of me - I had no way of knowing they were going to turn into my lane then trying to cut me off the damn road. I almost bumped into them because of their carelessness not because I was following them.
| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | And about number two, what's wrong with headlights on during the day? It's safer and nobody is being hurt. |
- How is it safer?
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Puck
The Texan
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:06 pm |
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| IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | And about number two, what's wrong with headlights on during the day? It's safer and nobody is being hurt. |
- How is it safer? |
International Studies
Andersson, K., Nilsson, G., and Salusjarvi, M.: The effect of recommended and compulsory use of vehicle lights on road accidents in Finland. Report 102A. National Road and Traffic Research Institute, Linkoping, Sweden, 1976.
A study in Finland conducted between 1968 and 1974 found that DRLs, when required on rural roads in the winter, were associated with a 21-percent reduction in daytime multiparty crash events (involving more than one motor vehicle or motor vehicles colliding with pedestrians or pedalcyclists).
Andersson, K., and Nilsson, G.: The effect on accidents of compulsory use of running lights during daylight hours in Sweden. Report 208A. National Road and Traffic Research Institute, Linkoping, Sweden, 1981.
In Sweden, a study based on 2 years of pre-law and 2 years of post-law data reported and 11-percent reduction in multiparty daytime crashes subsequent to the DRL law.
Vaaje, T.: Kjorelys om dagen reducerer ulykkestallene. Arbetsdokument 15.8.1986. Transportokonomisk institutt, Postboks 6110 Etterstad, N-0602 Oslo 6, Norway, 1986.
A study in Norway published in Norwegian and reviewed by Koornstra found a 14-percent drop in multiparty crashes prior to the law, during the 1980-85 period when voluntary DRL use was climbing.
Elvik, R.: The effects on accidents of compulsory use of daytime running lights for cars in Norway. Accid Anal Prev 25: 383-398 (1993).
A study in Norway, covering the period 1980 to 1990, examined the effect of the country's DRL law, which applied to new cars in 1985 and to all cars beginning in 1988. DRL use was estimated to be about 30-35 percent in 1980-81, 60-65 percent in 1984-85, and 90-95 percent in 1989-90, so, as in the earlier Scandinavian studies, only partial implementation of DRLs was assessed. There was a statistically significant 10-percent decline in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes associated with DRLs in this study, excluding rear-end collisions, which increased by 20 percent. For all daytime crashes involving multiple parties, there was a statistically significant 15-percent reduction associated with DRLs in the summer but not in the winter. No significant effects of DRLs were found for collisions involving pedestrians or motorcyclists.
Hansen, L. K.: Daytime running lights in Denmark--Evaluation of the safety effect. Danish Council of Road Safety Research, Copenhagen, 1993; Hansen, L. K.: Daytime running lights: Experience with compulsory use in Denmark. Fersi Conference, Lille, 1994.
Two studies evaluating Denmark's 1990 DRL law have been completed, one that assessed short-term effects, the other looking at longer term effects. Results of these two studies were quite consistent. There was a small reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes (7 percent) in the first year and 3 months the law was in effect, with one type of DRL-relevant crash (left turn in front of oncoming vehicle) reduced by 37 percent. In the second study, which covered 2 years and 9 months of the law, there was a 6-percent reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes, and a 34-percent reduction in left-turn crashes. There was a small reduction in motor vehicle-pedalcyclist collisions (4 percent) but a statistically significant increase (16 percent) in motor vehicle-pedestrian collisions.
North American Studies
Some DRL critics have attempted to undermine the unequivical results of international studies on the grounds that driving conditions in Scandinavian countries are not comparable to North American driving conditions. The following studies utterly refute this assertion
Cantilli, E. J.: Accident experience with parking lights as running lights. Highway Research Record Report No. 32. National Research Council, Transportation Research Board, Washington, DC, 1970.
In the United States, a small-scale fleet study conducted in the 1960s found an 18-percent lower daytime, multiple-vehicle crash rate for DRL-equipped vehicles.
Stein, H. S.: Fleet experience with daytime running lights in the United States. Technical Paper 851239. Society of Automotive Engineers, Warrendale, PA. 1985.
In a much larger fleet study conducted in the 1980s, more than 2,000 passenger vehicles in three fleets were equipped with DRLs.
One fleet operated in Connecticut, another in several States in the Southwest, and the third operated throughout the United States. A 7-percent reduction was found in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes in the DRL-equipped vehicles compared with control vehicles.
Aurora, H., et al.: Effectiveness of daytime running lights in Canada. TP 12298 (E). Transport Canada, Ottawa, 1994.
In a study in Canada comparing 1990 model year vehicles (required to have DRLs) with 1989 vehicles, a statistically significant 11-percent reduction in daytime multiple-vehicle crashes other than rear-end impacts was estimated. This estimate was adjusted to take into account the fact that about 29 percent of 1989 vehicles were fitted with DRLs. Collisions involving pedestrians, pedalcyclists, motorcyclists, and heavy trucks and buses were not included in this study.
Sparks, G. A., et al.: The effects of daytime running lights on crashes between two vehicles in Saskatchewan: a study of a government fleet. Accid Anal. Prev 25: 619-625 (1991).
In another Canadian study, crashes of vehicles with and without DRLs in a government fleet in Saskatchewan were compared with a random sample of crashes involving vehciles without DRLs. The estimated reduction in daytime two-vehicle crashes was 15 percent. When the analysis was limited to two-vehicle collisions most likely to be affected by DRLs--involving vehicles approaching from the front or side--the estimated reduction was 28 percent.
Society of Automotive Engineers Inc., Automotive Engineering Vol. 102 ; No. 8 ; Pg. 35; ISSN: 0098-2571 (August, 1994).
In 1994 Avis, Inc. announced the results of a traveler-safety study analyzing the incidence and degree of damage to cars equipped with daytime running lights; the study showed a significantly greater degree of damage to those without daytime running lights (DRLs). Those equipped with DRLs have their headlights on at all times and are more visible to other drivers. During the day, they are on at an 80% power level; in the dark they operate at 100%.
Damage severity in the non-DRL group (measured in terms of cost) was 69% greater than that of the DRL-equipped fleet. Only the non-DRL vehicles experienced damage in excess of $15,000. The Avis study involved 1500 cars with DRLs, and 1500 without, representing approximately 29,000 rentals in eight cities in Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, and Washington.
Summary of the Studies
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Reports , Vol. 110 ; No. 3 ; Pg. 233; ISSN: 0033-3549 (May, 1995).
In summary, although the studies of DRLs have differed in design, analysis techniques, and outcome measures, the later studies are largely in accordance with the earlier ones, indicating that the overall effect of DRLs on motor vehicle crashes is positive.
SOURCE: http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/DRLs/studies.htm
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IntrepidIsMe
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:27 pm |
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| Untitled wrote: | | IntrepidIsMe wrote: | | About number one, if you're driving and you bump into someone who's turning, then you're most likely way too close. You would notice their decrease in speed and therefore decrease yours, too. In any case where somebody is rear-ended, it's always the person's fault who hit them, no matter what. |
- It's common curtesy and it's the law. Plus that there are other accidents that happen than being rear ended because of a person turning too quickly. Just the other day someone cut infront of me - I had no way of knowing they were going to turn into my lane then trying to cut me off the damn road. I almost bumped into them because of their carelessness not because I was following them. |
I agree that people should use their turning signal while turning, however if they don't then it isn't actually their fault if someone bumps them. Getting cut off is entirely different. It's against the law even if you use your turning signal, so I fail to see how it applies to this discussion.
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lionhead
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:45 pm |
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I ride by bicycle. I accasionally take a sidewalk here and there, don't always give directions a drove a long time without a backlight...
Never had an accident though.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:20 pm |
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| madlilnerd wrote: | See, I'm not one of those who drives.
I'm one of those who annoys drivers by jaywalking and keys cars that are bad for the environment (or the cars of those who I know have run down pets within the month).
That's how I function. I doubt I'll ever learn to drive. |
I hope you get caught and fined, 
I drive fairly fast on the highway. Generally I only use one hand, and even then it's only the palm. If I'm in a heavily populated area, (which we don't really have in Maine), I'll use two hands.
It'd be cool to be able to ride my bike everywhere, but sadly reality invades, 
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Sam Kenobi
Not a Duke
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:58 pm |
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haha. i like your sarcastic smiley.
I just had the worst gorram drive ever... it was like... suddenly (over night or so) a illion people moved into town and clogged my favorite driving streets. I'm so pissed. hey you random people.... nobody wants you to live here... so go back home.
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WeAz
Commodore
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Location: Where you aren't
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:47 pm |
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I don't even own a car. And I don't plan on it. I ride my bike everywhere I go.
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edwardkilmer
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
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| Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:14 am |
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well everyone says I'm too agressive a driver. my hand position is left at 12 right on the shifting rod. taking turns usually involves down shifting, turning and pulling the e-brake so I can slide the car. this is made more fun by the fact that i'm in a front wheel drive car, and have the back tires ten pounds softer than the usually should be.
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Captain Dappet
Forum Revolutionist
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Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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| Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:39 am |
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I go by bus or train.
I wanted a car of my own for a while, too, you know.
Then I turned 6.
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