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 Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:44 am IMPORTANT QUESTION! PLEASE READ! |
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-IMPORTANT QUESTION-
I was toying with the idea, if I find it possible, to MOVE DSG to it's own site. I feel that there is a lack of membership, not because of DSG, but because of STV itself. I'm not saying STV is bad, but people who join it, do not join to become part of an RPG, a station one much less.
This does not mean we would start over. It would still be forum based. It would still be this story, same characters, etc. Just a different location in site(not system, station, etc).
I would REALLY like to know what the DSG crew feels about this. I think membership could potentially increase. Perhaps would make things much more fast paced.
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Lord Borg
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:46 am |
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I say do it, it could potential increase DSG's activity.
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La Forge
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:01 am |
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I could care less, either way.
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ILoveHarry
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:38 pm |
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I don't see how it would make much differance. Right now, at least people on the STV forum will see it and potentianlly join it. If it were to move, only the current members of DSG would know about it.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:44 pm |
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| ILoveHarry wrote: | | I don't see how it would make much differance. Right now, at least people on the STV forum will see it and potentianlly join it. If it were to move, only the current members of DSG would know about it. |
Agreed. That's precisely how STV benefits it.
A new site would only hamper it further, because no one new is going to join it or anything. It's best to keep it here.
STV has nothing to do with why it's innactive. I've been busier than I thought I would be, having hardly any time to spend online today nd almost no time yesterday, but will do what I can tonight to get my post made.
I think it's just the fact that people tend to go away and do things in the beginning of the summer. Moving DSG to another site won't do anything to fix that. It might even make me post less, because I'll have to visit a whole new site and everything.
STV already has an establishment. Utilize it; don't disregard it.
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Lord Borg
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:49 pm |
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There are several pros and cons, no doubt. How ever, it wouldnt be a "Only DSG members know of it" When we started a SW rpg off site, DSG members and more (You to, RM) followed. We would advertise, and ultimately, we may get more members, have you seen the typical trek rpg that has its own site? its BIG. I for example, when I joined STV, it was not for RPG's as such, untill Season One Episode 18, I was NOT in DSG. many that are in DSG, are just so happen to like rpgs but I am sure rpgs are not why they joined STV....
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:39 pm |
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| ILoveHarry wrote: | | I don't see how it would make much differance. Right now, at least people on the STV forum will see it and potentianlly join it. If it were to move, only the current members of DSG would know about it. |
| Republican_Man wrote: | Agreed. That's precisely how STV benefits it.
A new site would only hamper it further, because no one new is going to join it or anything. It's best to keep it here.
STV has nothing to do with why it's innactive. I've been busier than I thought I would be, having hardly any time to spend online today nd almost no time yesterday, but will do what I can tonight to get my post made.
I think it's just the fact that people tend to go away and do things in the beginning of the summer. Moving DSG to another site won't do anything to fix that. It might even make me post less, because I'll have to visit a whole new site and everything.
STV already has an establishment. Utilize it; don't disregard it. |
Thanks for responding. 
Not exactly. I didn't blame STV for it's innactivity as RM said, first of all. Second of all, I simply was saying that membership would increase, not activity. As I pointed out, activity on STV as a whole is low. Second of all, MANY people seek to join RPGs, but they won't type in "Star Trek Voyager forum" to join an RPG. We would gain more members, not less, if it was moved. Because when people look for an RPG, they would find it. The people who joined DSG were either part of the site or joined this to discuss Trek. Them joining DSG was just a bonus. No one comes to this site to RP and RP alone.
Yes, STV has an establishment and that is the problem. STV stands for Star Trek Voyager. Many think that this is a place you can chat Star Trek Voyager all the time. Thats it.
I would also like to add that this would not be done lightly in the least. It would not move to a cheap forum that I made. It would be handled with extreme care and given the best possible forum.
As for the you would post less comment...well that is just weird. I don't see how typing in another site or adding another site to your favorites would exasperate you to the point of posting less. 
| Lord Borg wrote: | | There are several pros and cons, no doubt. How ever, it wouldnt be a "Only DSG members know of it" When we started a SW rpg off site, DSG members and more (You to, RM) followed. We would advertise, and ultimately, we may get more members, have you seen the typical trek rpg that has its own site? its BIG. I for example, when I joined STV, it was not for RPG's as such, untill Season One Episode 18, I was NOT in DSG. many that are in DSG, are just so happen to like rpgs but I am sure rpgs are not why they joined STV.... |
Exactly Chris. That is the point I'm trying to convey. Many who join this site do not join to join an RPG.
I love DSG and I don't want to see it fail. So for the members, please don't feel that I'm just bored and want to try something daring with it. Something that could potentially ruin it.
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La Forge
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:13 pm |
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Well...y'know...when I joined STV. I searched for "Star Trek forum". In reality, I was looking for a Star Trek forum with Role Playing. I checked several, to find no Role Playing, until I came to STV. When I saw the name of the site, I was a little worried, seeing as I am by no means a VOY fan...ugh...
As I said before...I don't care, either way. That's up to you guys.
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Republican_Man
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:14 pm |
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Fine, fine. I stand firmly opposed to the notion of making DSG into its own site, but if that�s what you want, I won�t stop you, and nor will I quit.
If you do move to a DSG site, remember that I have the original database site still up and operative. That has stuff for encyclopedia, forums, etc. etc. and has a good Trek look. I think that�d be something good to use as the site if you decide to start it up there.
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Lord Borg
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:20 pm |
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Well, if we move we would def have no need for an offsite database. There would be MORE then enough room to do that on the same site.
Like andy said this isnt anything being done cheaply, tons of research is and will go into this, along with many, many discussions about the setup etc... Ideas have already started aring in fact....
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:24 pm |
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You just said exactly what I said. The site I currently have wouldn't be a separate database site. It would be, as per my suggestion, the whole shibang, because it has everything, forum, database, etc.
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La Forge
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:26 pm |
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Is your site operational?
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Lord Borg
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RM: We're still looking around I kinda like the format I'm doing some research.
La Forge: Not yet, not even made yet, still tossing ideas,
BOT please.
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:32 pm |
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| La Forge wrote: | | Is your site operational? |
LB, I think she was talking about my site. Yes, it is operational and has been for some time now.
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:52 pm |
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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! One thousandth post!!!
Heh...Anyways...
Yes, RM. That is what I meant.
If RM's site is up and running (right?) and since it has forums and a database section...y'know...why don't we use that? It's a nice enough site, I s'pose...
That is if we make the change. I'm still on the fence.
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:55 pm |
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| La Forge wrote: | WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 1000 post!!!
Heh...Anyways...
Yes, RM. That is what I meant.
If RM's site is up and running and since it has forums and a database section...y'know...why don't we use that? It's a nice site, I s'pose...
That is if we make the change. I'm still on the fence. |
Well, there are bugs we cannot seem to solve on that site, along with other reasons we'll probably just start from scratch.
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:34 pm |
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What other reasons are there? And I'm quite sure the bugs can be crushed, so to speak.
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:37 pm |
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I have way too many problems on that site. Not to mention, on that site, I have very little control over an RPG that I created.
The site does have a trek look and is cool. I was going to do something similiar to it, but not exactly the same. I don't know what program is used to run it, but I have a lot of trouble on that site.
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| Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:49 am |
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I would like Valathous, Hitchiker, and Ziona to also post here. I would like there opinion.
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| Founder wrote: | | I would like Valathous, Hitchiker, and Ziona to also post here. I would like there opinion. |
Phfft cause my opinions means dirt eh Founder Jk 
But,... as LB said their are many pro's and cons,...
The new DSG site could flourish and be veary succsessful. But on the other hand it might not, and if that happens then there is a good chance that DSG would die because the plot would progress on the other site and then if the site failed we'd most likely try to bring it back on STV only to have many members loose interest.
although I think It is a very good Idea,...but in the long run it could mean the death of DSG 
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| Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:25 pm |
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| Omet'Ikilan wrote: | | Founder wrote: | | I would like Valathous, Hitchiker, and Ziona to also post here. I would like there opinion. |
Phfft cause my opinions means dirt eh Founder Jk
But,... as LB said their are many pro's and cons,...
The new DSG site could flourish and be veary succsessful. But on the other hand it might not, and if that happens then there is a good chance that DSG would die because the plot would progress on the other site and then if the site failed we'd most likely try to bring it back on STV only to have many members loose interest.
although I think It is a very good Idea,...but in the long run it could mean the death of DSG |
Of course your opinion matters. It's just you've been gone for so long... I thought you left or something.
I understand your and everyone else's fears. Which is why I will work on it as a side project but won't do anything to DSG here. I'll work until it's absolutely at it's best and if I see there is general interest. If not, then I'll scrap it. If there is, I'll once more ask everyone.
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| Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:59 pm |
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I don't think that DSG should move, mostly for reasons already stated for others.
This is a convenient and comfortable home for DSG with a stable member base from which to draw new players. Members who join are already Star Trek-inclined, and may already be roleplaying-inclined or may be interested in joining an RPG. Either way, DSG is there.
If DSG were to move, it would require a lot more work to actually run the RPG, since we would have to do everything ourselves (whereas now all we do is post, since Morphy generously has this whole "message board" thingy running for us). We would have to advertise more to get new players too, something I don't like doing personally, and something that's hard to do in general.
Any current lack of posting is probably due to a mixture of the advent of summer, with the ending of school years, vacations, etc, and the fact that RPGs in general seem on a decline. In no way do I believe that RPGs will ever be dead. But even roleplaying goes through its recessions before it hits big booms.
So DSG shouldn't move, because it'd be easier and better in the long run if we stay here. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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| Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:12 pm |
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Personally, I would find it interesting moving DSG to another forum. It would give us more freedom and room to do what we needed plot wise and ship wise. I think this RPG has slightly outgrown this forum.
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Lord Borg
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| Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:16 pm |
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Indeed. We had semi ideas for station areas but can't really do them, not important per se, but it would have made good story telling. This RPG is very mature for the forum/kind of rpg we usually see on this site. Eh...I dunno...
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La Forge
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| Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:27 pm |
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Oh, hell no...
Did you just say that we are gonna turn this RPG into a "sectional" RPG...? Like Skyline and Voyager?
No way...
I've made up my mind. I say no to the new site. I say we stay, right where we are. I find little reason to leave.
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