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PostTue Apr 25, 2006 4:47 pm    WWE/TNA Topic

*MANY SPOILERS AHEAD*

Okay, there are WWE and TNA events every month. Sometimes, there are two WWE events a month. Rather than posting various topics once or twice a month, can I please ask that ALL talk about WWE and TNA PPV events goes in this topic? Thank you.

Right, let's see what's coming up. There could be spoilers.

WWE

http://www.wwe.com/shows/backlash

The main event of Backlash is going to be WWE Champion John Cena VS Triple H VS Edge in a Triple Threat match. It's hard to predict a winner for this, but I'm going to go with Edge. I've just got a feeling that he'll find a way to take the title, either by pinning Cena or Triple H.

There are many other great matches on the card, and I'm happier to discuss them if anyone else posts comments here. Backlash will take place on Sunday 30th April.

TNA

http://www.tnawrestling.com/sacrifice06/index.html

TNA Lockdown took place on Sunday. NWA World Champion Christian Cage successfully defended his title against Abyss, and Sting's Army were victorious against Jeff Jarrett's Army. The next event will be TNA Sacrifice on May 14th. No matches have been announced yet, but some will in the weeks to come.

Any thoughts on WWE, TNA or any other wrestling, please post here.


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PostTue Apr 25, 2006 4:52 pm    

Here are my thoughts, summed up in three simple words: fake, fake, fake. I watched WWE for a couple minutes last night and it was just so hilariously fake. Not to mention not entertaining.
As you can see, I don't like wrestling at all and can see the fakeness plain as day. But if you like it, more power to you



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PostTue Apr 25, 2006 5:08 pm    

It's fake, but it's fun fake.

To be honest, I wish I could use those wrestling moves if ever I got caught in a bar fight.


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PostTue Apr 25, 2006 5:45 pm    

Republican_Man wrote:
Here are my thoughts, summed up in three simple words: fake, fake, fake. I watched WWE for a couple minutes last night and it was just so hilariously fake. Not to mention not entertaining.
As you can see, I don't like wrestling at all and can see the fakeness plain as day. But if you like it, more power to you


I like wrestling because it is entertaining and many of the superstars are fun to watch.

Now some wrestling like ones seen in ECW or NEW Japan Pro Wrestling is real. Like on NJPW they had an exploding cage match that almost killed a wrestler. On ECW of course they had matches where guys would be slammed on the mat full of thumb tax. Even one wrestling match where mick foley battled a guy in a pirahna match where a fish tank was nearby full of those things and one of the wrestlers who fell in to the tank was eaten to death.

As for WWE it is easy to see who will win because most of the matches are rigged now a days. It's just telling superstars they will lose tonight or something and they will lose on purpose.

As for TNA I dislike TNA because it is too similar to WCW and WCW was not entertaining in my view. It was flat out boring...to say the least.

Not all wrestling are fake.


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PostTue Apr 25, 2006 6:21 pm    

You didn't love WCW?

Well, each to their own. I enjoyed WCW, particularly from 1989-1992 and from 1996-1998.

You're right, not all wrestling is fake and wrestlers do get injured a lot. Right now, there are a few on the injured list for various reasons, and some have had to have surgery.

So, Borgslayer, anything in WWE you're looking forward to?


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PostTue Apr 25, 2006 9:46 pm    

I want triple H to win because he is a tough guy. He would win anyday.

I would also like to see more of Ken Kennedy on Smackdown, and of course see that guy Bobby Lashley take on The Boogeyman.


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PostWed Apr 26, 2006 4:51 pm    

Ken Kennedy should be back around June, depending on how his recovery from injury goes. I'll wait patiently, because Kennedy is going places in WWE. His verbal skills and charisma will stand him out from the crowd.

Bobby Lashley VS The Boogeyman would be a great match, but I think their careers are going down seperate roads for now. I would like to see a Boogeyman/Undertaker match at some point, though.

Backlash is so close. I have a feeling the Cena/Triple H/Edge match could be the match of the year.


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PostWed Apr 26, 2006 5:20 pm    

As we all should know by now, well WWE Fans on here anyway, Triple H is gonna win sunday, its that simple. Edge is just in there to make up the numbers. Its gonna end with a pedigree on Edge and then the 1..2..3. That'll allow Cena to say that Trip still hasnt beat him one on one and then they'll face off at Vengeance (25/6) 11 time champ, like it or not.
Ive only got one problem with Backlash though and that is that the Spirit Squad aren't on the card!!! Ive got spirit, have u!!!??? lol



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PostWed Apr 26, 2006 5:23 pm    

I like The Spirit Squad. They annoy me, and that's why I like them.

Triple H does seem the logical winner, so that they can set up a rematch at the next Raw PPV (Vengeance). However, WWE has been so unpredictable lately that I'm not too sure what's going to happen in major title matches. I mean, I expected Triple H to beat Cena at WM 22.


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PostWed Apr 26, 2006 10:56 pm    

Ok "Peeps" (hehe, get it ) here's how it is...this Sunday is Backlash and Triple H will leave the 11-time WWE Champion and return to the throne of Kings (I know I'll bow down to his greatness ), RVD will regain the Intercontinental Championship from the man he lost it to before being drafted to SmackDown! a few years back, and Mr. McMahon & Shan O Mac will overcome God. As for the other matches..."anything is possible" (lol, according to the writers that is ).

Now for TNA and the, now ill-forgotten, WCW neither of them impress me one little bit so I am in agreement with borgslayer. They are not entertaining in the least bit...the entrances, so not flashy and cool like in WWE...and most importantly, they were both full of former WWE has-beens that couldn't make it in the big-time any longer.

And in case we were on the subject...Edge should never...eeeeeeeeeever, again be the WWE Champion, instead Christian Cage should return and climb the mountain as his friend did and as he so easily did in TNA. Also, Rey Mysterio will remain the World Heavyweight Champion (hopefully) until Batista returns, no matter the KOTR outcome...and thus we will have a great match between two friends for the most prestigious title on SmackDown! (in which Batista will regain the title belt of course)


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PostSun Apr 30, 2006 10:47 pm    

*WARNING: POST WILL CONTAIN MATCH RESULTS FOR BACKLASH*

Match #1- Carlito over Chris Masters

Match #2- Umaga over Ric Flair

Match #3-Women's Championship Match- Trish Stratus over Mickie James via disqualification so Mickie stays champ

Match #4-Intercontinental Championship-$ in the Bank-Match= Rob Van Dam over Shelton Benjamin to become the NEW Intercontinental Champion & retain $ in the Bank

Match #5- Kane vs. Big Show (I would guess no contest because Kane heard voices near the end, everything went red, and Big Show hit Kane with a chair; however, the referee didn't order the bell, Show just walked out)

Match #6- The McMahons over Shawn Michaels & "God" (Thanks to the Spirit Squad)

Match #7-WWE Championship-Triple Threat-Match= John Cena over Triple H & Edge (w/Lita) to retain the WWE Championship (I know-I know, I said Triple H would win & in fact he was close, but Cena sort of rolled through the Pedigree & used a sort of bridge pin to get the victory. However, while Cena was celebrating an enraged Triple H laid Cena, the Ref, & Edge out with the sledge hammer and by the time all was said and done...Triple H, the King of Kings, was the last man standing in the ring and outside, Lita tried to interfere earlier but got a spinebuster from the Game for her efforts. So I stand by my assumption that one day Triple H will regain the glory for the 11th-time and claim his throne once again).

Also, Matt Striker made an appearance & have his same old, boring "uneducated" speech & inviting out Eugene...Eugene picked his nose, rolled it up, & then stuck it on Striker's tongue who then ran right into the Stunner.

Lastly, there was one other thing that puzzled me...lately Triple H & Shawn Michaels (both did it tonight) have been using the DX "suck it" sign during & after their matches...could this be a prelude to a DX "rebirth?"


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PostMon May 01, 2006 10:57 am    

Right well....................that sorta buggers up my plans for Vengeance. I dont mind Cena winning but not like that, I thought after Edge got thrown over the top rope that the pedigree would spell the end for Cena, only to be reversed!!!! hell of a match though, even though The Game deserved to win.


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PostMon May 01, 2006 6:15 pm    

*POST WILL CONTAIN MATCH RESULTS FOR BACKLASH*

Here are a few observations from me...

I hope Chris Masters gets revenge on Carlito. Masters made his debut in January 2005, but has NEVER won a match on PPV. He's won TV matches, of course, but at each PPV, he's been defeated (and was, of course, eliminated at the Royal Rumble).

Umaga is mean. Only someone like The Undertaker can stop him (except he's busy on Smackdown at the moment).

Trish and Mickie are perhaps the two best women wrestlers of the modern era (and very beautiful too). I hope we see them wrestle again, but I wish the WWE would use the other women they have under contract. Women like Victoria, Melina and Jillian can all wrestle, in addition to being beautiful.

I can't wait to see Rob Van Dam cash in his "Money In The Bank" shot. I wonder who'll he face. RVD/Triple H and RVD/Edge would be good, but RVD/Cena would be thrilling.

I hope to see The Big Show take on Kane again in the near future, perhaps in a No Holds Barred match.

The McMahons VS Shawn Michaels was a pretty good match, but I hope the feud ends soon with a convincing win by Shawn.

I enjloyed the Triple Threat Match very much. There were some amazing moments in the match (like when Edge had a sleeperhold on Triple H, but then Cena picked up Triple H for the F-U whilst Edge still had the sleeperhold locked on). I was surprised to see Cena win. Happy, but surprised. It'll be interesting to see where the champ goes from here.

Next WWE PPV will be Judgement Day on May 21st, and as you know, that's a Smackdown event. If you don't want to know what the main event will be, turn away now, but it has been announced on WWE.com...


World Heavyweight Champion Rey Mysterio VS U.S. Champion JBL

^These two have always had good matches together, so this one should be another good one. I wonder if Rey will retain, or whether we'll be seeing JBL have another World Title reign (having previously held the WWE Title, which is now a Raw title).

Also, TNA Sacrifice will take place on May 14th. Again, if you don't want to know what the main event will be yet, then turn away now.


NWA World Heavyweight Champion Christian Cage VS "The Monster" Abyss

^This should be a really good match. TNA is getting better and better, in my opinion.


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PostMon May 01, 2006 10:35 pm    

Superman wrote:
World Heavyweight Champion Rey Mysterio VS U.S. Champion JBL


^ Besides that, I was looking on my calendar and the brackets...and I would guess that the King of the Ring finals would be held here at Judgment Day too.

Superman wrote:
NWA World Heavyweight Champion Christian Cage VS "The Monster" Abyss


^ Don't forget to mention that it will be a tables, ladders, chairs...chains, etc. match, making it TOTAL METAL MAYHEM ...sounds intriguing, but I'm still a bit shaky with my opinion of TNA.

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Lastly, there was one other thing that puzzled me...lately Triple H & Shawn Michaels (both did it tonight) have been using the DX "suck it" sign during & after their matches...could this be a prelude to a DX "rebirth?"


^ Also, what is your opinion on this Superman?

And lastly, can you believe what happened with Joey Styles last night on RAW? Could this be a bad omen...like another ECW invasion ???


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PostTue May 02, 2006 1:12 am    

Well well well

Joey Styles should get a big clap because he just humiliated the WWE and Quit.

Joey Styles words are true and I am happy that he said such a thing.

as he says "They are called Wrestlers not Superstars" "This is not wrestling entertainment its Wrestling" "I have the right to call every move made by that superstar"

So Anyways Joey Styles the Former ECW Announcer made a great point and probably ruined the mood of the crowd watching on site and on the tv.

I cheer for Joey Styles. He makes a damn good point.


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PostTue May 02, 2006 1:17 am    

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Not all the action happened inside the ring, though. In fact, there were plenty of fireworks at the broadcast booth. During the night, RAW play-by-play announcer Joey Styles was summoned to the back for a meeting with the Spirit Squad. They informed Styles that he needed to show more spirit otherwise they would force him to wear a cheerleading outfit next week. Jerry �The King� Lawler poked fun at Styles upon his return to the booth, and Styles responded by slapping The King. Lawler shoved Joey down, sending him in retreat. The King tried to get Styles to come back out with an apology, but he wasn�t willing to accept.

�I�m going to show the whole world why for seven years I was considered the loose cannon of commentary,� said an emotional Styles.

With that, Style passionately let out all of his frustrations, explaining that he was sick of being lectured on the differences between pro wrestling and sports-entertainment. He explained why he was sick of boogers, bathroom humor and a Chairman who mocks �God�. But he also said he was sick of all of the fans that buy into it. And just like that, Joey Styles quit as the play-by-play man of RAW. What does this mean for the future of the RAW announce team? Who will be doing play-by-play next week on RAW?

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/results/


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PostTue May 02, 2006 5:29 am    

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Lastly, there was one other thing that puzzled me...lately Triple H & Shawn Michaels (both did it tonight) have been using the DX "suck it" sign during & after their matches...could this be a prelude to a DX "rebirth?"


^ Also, what is your opinion on this Superman?


I think we could be seeing a D-X reunion down the road. Also, I've been told that there is going to be a Shawn Michaels/Triple H action figure double-pack this summer. Hmmm!

I will say one thing, though. If D-X reunites, it can't be the same D-X we saw in the late 90s. Shawn Michaels and Triple H are older now and I don't want to see them acting like guys in their 20s/30s. Also, Shawn Michaels has played a mature role these last four years, and Triple H has wore expensive suits and played a different role these last several years, so people might not necessarily buy into D-X unless there's a big change (in both attitude and attire).

Still, I'm sure it can happen. And it'd freshen the product up a bit, and give Shawn Michaels and Triple H something to do. Anyway, I'm off to watch Raw. I hope it's good.


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PostTue May 02, 2006 8:09 pm    

Joey Styles left because ECW is coming back full time in a few months. Vince McMahon is going to fund it back to life.

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PostTue May 02, 2006 8:14 pm    

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Joey Styles left because ECW is coming back full time in a few months. Vince McMahon is going to fund it back to life.


Will it be the same, though? For it to be a success, Vince needs to allow it free rein. He should provide the money and the resources, but the creative side should be left to Paul Heyman, and the commentary should be left to Joey Styles. I don't think ECW will ever be the ECW that people knew from 1992-2001, but it can at least be an alternative to WWE. Let's hope WWE provides the money and the resources (something the original ECW didn't always have) and leaves the creative side to others.


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PostTue May 02, 2006 9:08 pm    

ECW I am sure will be the same because Vince is looking to re-hire some of the old stars like The Sandman, Sabu, and maybe even guys like Tajiri, Chris Candido(Justin Credible), and other former ECW greats.

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PostTue May 02, 2006 10:50 pm    

borgslayer wrote:
Joey Styles left because ECW is coming back full time in a few months. Vince McMahon is going to fund it back to life.


I see...I agree with Superman though. If ECW remains the way it was back in the 90's through early 2000's, it will just be an alternative to WWE...which is also what I feel TNA is right now.

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I think we could be seeing a D-X reunion down the road. Also, I've been told that there is going to be a Shawn Michaels/Triple H action figure double-pack this summer. Hmmm!

I will say one thing, though. If D-X reunites, it can't be the same D-X we saw in the late 90s. Shawn Michaels and Triple H are older now and I don't want to see them acting like guys in their 20s/30s. Also, Shawn Michaels has played a mature role these last four years, and Triple H has wore expensive suits and played a different role these last several years, so people might not necessarily buy into D-X unless there's a big change (in both attitude and attire).


I thought so too . A double-pack this summer huh...very peculiar indeed (lol).

I have to agree, Triple H & HBK are much older now & probably couldn't pull some of the antics that they used to pull, but I would hope that they would still defy authority & maybe shut up the Spirit Squad . As for the attitude & attire change, I could picture a modern day DX look & attitude...maybe buy into it (lol), I mean after all...Vince was supposed to name a new RAW GM by now & he hasn't, I thought he would, so a DX reunion down the road just might work.


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PostTue May 02, 2006 11:04 pm    

One other thing guys, I was just searching the website of the WWE and came across this little side article...

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With all the excitement involving the RAW announce booth and Styles quitting his job Monday night, did anybody notice that Jonathan Coachman was absent? Where was The Coach? Is he gone for good? Or will we see him back at the booth next Monday?


...that brings a good question, that I of course also noticed Coach wasn't there , but where was he indeed? Will he be back Monday, or will Todd Grisham be RAW's new lead announcer?


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PostWed May 03, 2006 5:21 am    

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ECW I am sure will be the same because Vince is looking to re-hire some of the old stars like The Sandman, Sabu, and maybe even guys like Tajiri, Chris Candido(Justin Credible), and other former ECW greats.


I see your point, but it's not just about hiring former ECW greats. It's about giving the new ECW creative freedom. They could hire every wrestler that ever wrestled for ECW, but unless the new ECW is given creative freedom (namely Paul Heyman as booker), then it won't work.

The new ECW has to be about creative freedom, it has to be about giving the wrestlers free rein, it has to be about giving Paul Heyman, Joey Styles and others the creative freedom they'd need to make the new ECW a success. I wish them luck.

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...that brings a good question, that I of course also noticed Coach wasn't there , but where was he indeed? Will he be back Monday, or will Todd Grisham be RAW's new lead announcer?


I'm guessing it'll be either Coach or Jim Ross. Todd Grisham could be a good lead announcer in the future, but with Raw being WWE's flagship show, I think they'll want a lead announcer who the fans are comfortable with.


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PostWed May 03, 2006 10:53 pm    

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This could be very interesting, but as Superman said...unless the new ECW is givin creative freedom to do whatever it pleases and book its own matches and what not, I will just and stick with the WWE and TNA (on rare occasions, I'm actually getting more into it when I don't work early). Also, if they bring back lots of ECW greats...what will that mean for former ECW greats who are now under contract in the WWE. For example, while Rob Van Dam has sung the praises of ECW ever since its One Night Stand last year...he also sung the praises of the WWE and how one day he hoped to climb to the top of the mountain (he can now with $ in the bank) and show everyone in the WWE why he was called all those things he was called back at ECW. Or what about stars that are under contract in TNA, like Chris Jericho (according to the TNA website last I checked). Will they just up and leave their contracts from TNA/WWE just to return to an unknown brand (by this I mean unknown if it will work again, not that it is unknown).


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PostThu May 04, 2006 10:48 am    

TNA stars have a lot of freedom right now. They work less dates than WWE (although that means less money) and they're free to take on independent bookings. I don't think they'd trade that all in for a full-time commitment to the ECW brand (which will still be OWNED and FINANCED by WWE).

I'm still not convinced by this ECW idea. I'd rather just have an annual ECW PPV and maybe an ECW VS WWE supercard once a year. I hope it works, but it won't ever be the same as the original ECW.


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