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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:15 pm |
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Good point....
Its only a matter of time before Janeway kicks the bucket.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:16 pm |
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Voyager2004 wrote: | Most of her crew huh...? The crew compliment were approximately 150 people...I'm sure she returned home with no less than 135...I mean Picard lost 18 people when Q allowed them to meet the Borg...That's already surpassed Janeway's number by 3. |
The thing is Picard was cool so hes allowed that body count.
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Lord Borg Fleet Admiral
Joined: 27 May 2003 Posts: 11214 Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:46 pm |
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^ No, I belive Janway's number was around 175. then a bunch died in care taker, 2 came on, one left, one was born, then seven came on, then the four children, 3 left... so yeah... the numbers fluctuated
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~Voyager Fanatic~ Super Genius
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 1787
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:39 am |
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If Tuvok became the captain of Voyager, the crew might not get home as he is too logical and too careful.
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RuNeScApE oWnZ j0o! Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 101 Location: In a cave.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:05 am |
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He'd prolly not have tried to rescue seven of nine in dark frontier(?)..
which would lead to many bad things :O
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~Voyager Fanatic~ Super Genius
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 1787
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:06 am |
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Yes many bad things would happen if Tuvok was to become the captain like:
-Seven of Nine might not have joined Voyager if Janeway wasn't the captain. (Scorpion)
-Voyager would lose Seven of Nine. (Dark Frontier)
-Janeway and Chakotay would be stranded on a planet. (Resolutions)
-Voyager's crew could have died if Janeway wasn't the captain. (Scientific Method)
-Without Janeway, there would not be a future Janeway to give the "present" Janeway tegnology from the future and Voyager might have to stay in the Delta Quadrant longer or forever. (Endgame)
-Without Janeway, Tuvok and Tom Paris might have died. (Worst Case Scenario)
-If Tuvok was the captain, Harry and the rest of the people might have been stuck in the stressful dream. (The Thaw)
-Without Janeway, Voyager would not be stuck in the Delta Quadrant and with that, no Star Trek Voyager Series.
-I'll add more soon.
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TrekkieMage Office Junkie
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 5335 Location: Hiding
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:03 pm |
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^Yeah. Tuvok may be very logical and everything, but Janeway's gut instinct is a definate plus.
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:42 pm |
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Lord Borg wrote: | ^ No, I belive Janway's number was around 175. then a bunch died in care taker, 2 came on, one left, one was born, then seven came on, then the four children, 3 left... so yeah... the numbers fluctuated |
I don't belive her number was ever quite that high...Granted she lost some members when they were swept into the Delta Quadrant, but she also gained quite a good number of people from the Maquis.
Also, Janeway told Chakotay in "Shattered," that she STARTED out with a crew of 153 people...So, I don't think she came that close to 175 people. B/c in the episode "The 37's" I think Chakotay said they had 152 men and women aboard. That's almost guarenteed to include everyone of the crew...Maquis, Doctor, Naomi, Kes and Neelix, and Janeway's original crew.
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monroe Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 120
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Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:10 pm |
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ya she didnt lose that many people, besides if tuvok was captain the maqui would have killed him, poor tuvok
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myblackrose Commander
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 474 Location: Floating around...
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:23 am |
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Well I've just been watching Worst Case Scenario and in that and the previous episode the crew number has been stated as 148. Now I think that the Maquis pretty much evened out anyone that was lost in Caretaker and they gained Neelix and Kes but several crewmembers have died (ah those poor nameless ensigns...) so I don't think that the original number could have greatly exceeded 150 by any means... so 153 sounds accurate... that was just my two cents!
Also, I don't think that Tuvok would have gotten them home because aside from Voyager Fanatic's good reasons, there have been lots of times when Janeway has made small decisions that Tuvok believed to be, and probably were, illogical but they actually had a positive outcome in the end. That's Janeway's saving grace; she is a bit of a regulations freak sometimes but she has humanity and gut instinct (which Tuvok told Neelix in Rise that Vulcans do not posess)... I think that you need instinct aswell as training, otherwise why not just programme a robot to Captain a ship?
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natane Senior Cadet
Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 29
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:58 am |
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Well that'll lead to what if The Doctor as captain?
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myblackrose Commander
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 474 Location: Floating around...
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Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:08 am |
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lol well I've already turned the Doctor into Sean Connery in another thread so this could lead to Voyager being captained by James Bond! Now that gives me ideas...
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dragonfang196 Ensign
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Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:58 pm |
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everything would be changed to be logical and full of fung shway or whatever.
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