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Tuvok8917
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A MU movie? The stories about the ISS Voyager, with Captain Harry Kim and Ensign Janeway? lol
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Voyager2004
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LOL....now that's even more far fetched than the last one posted...^^^ Haha... 
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Lynx
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| Voyager2004 wrote: | | Lynx wrote: | Set the story some years after "Endgame", maybe it could be based on the events in "Homecoming" and the books too.
Get the main crew from the series together for a mission to the Delta Quadrant or Gamma Quadrant.
Add Kes and Neelix too. |
It's okay to bring Neelix back...Because he's still alive... 
If it's set a number of years after Voyager's finale, then Kes would be long dead...if it's set DIRECTLY after the Finale, then Kes would be 8 years old. 1 year from dying. So there's no point in having her on because she would be useless. Not to mention she went back to her people which are farther than Neelix...But Neelix probably wouldn't be coming back, unless on a viewscreen, b/c he is still so far away. |
As I've written in another post, Kes's lifespan could easily be prolonged. It's just about will, skill and imagination.
There are many possible scenarios for a Voyager movie which could include a decent Kes come-back story.
A return of Suspiria or a possible attack from Species 8472 which Kes's knowledge could prevent.
It could also be a reason for Neelix to leave that dreadful asteroid and go looking for his old friends.
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Voyager2004
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| Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:50 pm |
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| Lynx wrote: | As I've written in another post, Kes's lifespan could easily be prolonged. It's just about will, skill and imagination.
And as I've written, if it's 5 years after Voyager's return, like it's been 5 years since the show ended, then Kes is long dead. Because according to the SET Ocampan lifespan, she's long gone. And therefore nothing on the end of Voyager could be done for her. And Suspiria probably wouldn't help her...not to mention the fact that at the end of "Fury" she was sent back to look for her people at her home world...(That she probably didn't make it to because by that episode she was already about 6 years old, just 3 years from the end of her SET lifespan...) So, no, it couldn't be EASILY prolonged...
There are many possible scenarios for a Voyager movie which could include a decent Kes come-back story.
Not if she's dead as I explained just above. And it's unlikely that a movie would be made that takes place BEFORE Nemesis, so it would take place after it.
A return of Suspiria or a possible attack from Species 8472 which Kes's knowledge could prevent.
Kes' knowledge?!...OF WHAT?! All she did was relay messages to and from Janeway. Knowlege...pfft...okay...if that counts as knowledge, then I should have a bachelor's degree in quantum mechanics...
It could also be a reason for Neelix to leave that dreadful asteroid and go looking for his old friends.
He's just happy with Dexa as mentioned in "Endgame." And also mentioned in that episode, he was gonna ask her to marry him...so it's doubtful that he would leave...even if they went with him, b/c he's probably very happy with the rest of his Talaxian buds... |
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Lynx
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| Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:24 am |
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| Lynx wrote: | | As I've written in another post, Kes's lifespan could easily be prolonged. It's just about will, skill and imagination.] |
| Voyager2004 wrote: | | And as I've written, if it's 5 years after Voyager's return, like it's been 5 years since the show ended, then Kes is long dead. Because according to the SET Ocampan lifespan, she's long gone. And therefore nothing on the end of Voyager could be done for her. And Suspiria probably wouldn't help her...not to mention the fact that at the end of "Fury" she was sent back to look for her people at her home world...(That she probably didn't make it to because by that episode she was already about 6 years old, just 3 years from the end of her SET lifespan...) So, no, it couldn't be EASILY prolonged... |
You really don't want Kes to return, do you? 
As I've stated before, Kes's lifespan could easily be prolonged. By Suspirta, by Q, by The Doctor or some friendly Ocampa with the technology. It's only about to write a story about it, just as they brought Spock back to life again.
| Lynx wrote: | | There are many possible scenarios for a Voyager movie which could include a decent Kes come-back story. |
| Voyager2004 wrote: | | Not if she's dead as I explained just above. And it's unlikely that a movie would be made that takes place BEFORE Nemesis, so it would take place after it. |
Yes, and including Kes with a prolonged lifespan! 
| Lynx wrote: | | A return of Suspiria or a possible attack from Species 8472 which Kes's knowledge could prevent. |
| Voyager2004 wrote: | | Kes' knowledge?!...OF WHAT?! All she did was relay messages to and from Janeway. Knowlege...pfft...okay...if that counts as knowledge, then I should have a bachelor's degree in quantum mechanics... |
If they can waste four seasons of a series showing how a starship survives all kinds of threats and impossible situations thanks to a Superwoman's Borg knowledge, if they can introduce a character who can fix anything, from the warp engines to Janeway's malfunctioning hair-dryer, then it's a piece of cake to come up with a story where another character's possible knowledege of a hostile species can save tjhe ship and possible the whole Federation.
| Lynx wrote: | | It could also be a reason for Neelix to leave that dreadful asteroid and go looking for his old friends. |
| Voyager2004 wrote: | | He's just happy with Dexa as mentioned in "Endgame." And also mentioned in that episode, he was gonna ask her to marry him...so it's doubtful that he would leave...even if they went with him, b/c he's probably very happy with the rest of his Talaxian buds... |
Maybe, but one day he'll wake up and discovers, just like Mick Jagger sings in an obscure Rolling Stones song that:
"Maybe the choice you made wasn't really right
and you go out and you won't come back at night" 
and he packs his things and leaves this dreadful asteroid in the middle of nowhere, thousands of light-years from Talaxian space where Voyager just happened to encounter a bunch of Talaxians (highly believable story ) and start looking for his real friends. He did promise that he always would remain loyal to Captain Janeway and the crew, didn't he. Time to prove that!
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Voyager2004
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| Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:38 am |
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But him leaving his NEW family to "seek out" his old friends doesn't prove any such loyalty...And the storyline they came up with for them being so far out IS believable...
| lynx wrote: | You really don't want Kes to return, do you?
As I've stated before, Kes's lifespan could easily be prolonged. By Suspirta, by Q, by The Doctor or some friendly Ocampa with the technology. It's only about to write a story about it, just as they brought Spock back to life again. |
I don't have a problem with Kes returning, but it's just not plausible or believable...and I've already expressed to you my feelings on the matter...so get over it...
And Suspiria can't do it because Kes didn't leave Voyager to seek out Suspiria, but to go to her Ocampan home...maybe you should re-watch "The Gift" and remember why she left...not to seek a "longer lifespan." Q wouldn't do it, b/c he has nothing to gain from it...already been discussed, so STOP bringing it up...And the Doctor already tried...Oh, and he failed!!! And ya, like an Ocampan is gonna have Technology that doesn't exist, to help Kes...right....
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Lynx
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| Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:48 am |
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| Voyager2004 wrote: |
I don't have a problem with Kes returning, but it's just not plausible or believable...and I've already expressed to you my feelings on the matter...so get over it...
And Suspiria can't do it because Kes didn't leave Voyager to seek out Suspiria, but to go to her Ocampan home...maybe you should re-watch "The Gift" and remember why she left...not to seek a "longer lifespan." Q wouldn't do it, b/c he has nothing to gain from it...already been discussed, so STOP bringing it up...And the Doctor already tried...Oh, and he failed!!! And ya, like an Ocampan is gonna have Technology that doesn't exist, to help Kes...right.... |
So Kes returning as a maniac out of character is believable but all other options are not?
The Ocampa obviously have the technology and methods for such which is stated in "Cold Fire". The Doctor can try again....and have success! And Q may have something to gain from it, who knows.
And I'm not gonna watch "The Gift" again and no other season 4-7 episode either.
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Voyager2004
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Yes, Kes returning out of Character is believable...just go read my other post TO YOU in the Voyager section...you OBVIOUSLY don't read what the rest of us have to say, b/c I explained when it is "okay" to be out of character...so yes it is acceptable.
NO!!! THE OCAMPA DON'T have the technology...that's not the OCAMPA...they're just OCAMPA that live on an array...the OCAMPA are on the OCAMPAN planet...duh! She went to her planet, not the array...And AGAIN to prove you don't read our posts, I also directed TO YOU, that to the best of my recollection, it's not a technology that prolongs the Ocampa lifespan on Suspiria's array. If I remember correctly she helped them develop their abilities to prolong their life...
So what would Q have to gain from it? Nothing...already discussed...and the Doctor could try again, but probably fail.
Oh...so you WON'T watch "The Gift" b/c you just don't care enough to remember what ACTUALLY happened. Because you would rather just go with your memory than go and correct your mistakes with the CANON info...okay, I can live with that...
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Lynx
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| Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:57 am |
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| Voyager2004 wrote: | | Yes, Kes returning out of Character is believable...just go read my other post TO YOU in the Voyager section...you OBVIOUSLY don't read what the rest of us have to say, b/c I explained when it is "okay" to be out of character...so yes it is acceptable. |
Yes, it's OK for Kes to be out of character but not for any other Voyager main character. And it's not OK for you to have Kes returned in any other way. That's because you simply dont want Kes back! Therefore you can't or won't accept any other option. When it comes to stubborn refusal, you are as good as me!
| Quote: | | NO!!! THE OCAMPA DON'T have the technology...that's not the OCAMPA...they're just OCAMPA that live on an array...the OCAMPA are on the OCAMPAN planet...duh! She went to her planet, not the array...And AGAIN to prove you don't read our posts, I also directed TO YOU, that to the best of my recollection, it's not a technology that prolongs the Ocampa lifespan on Suspiria's array. If I remember correctly she helped them develop their abilities to prolong their life... |
The Ocampa on Suspiria's array are still Ocampa and Kes could use their way to prolong her lifespan. Besides that, Founder who's words you so happily are repeating, stated that she became so powerful that she could ovecome aging. So maybe she could just do that.
| Quote: | | So what would Q have to gain from it? Nothing...already discussed...and the Doctor could try again, but probably fail. |
The Doctor would not fail twice. He never did that in any episode. That would be out of character for him. Besides that, we also have Seven's Borg technology which can overwin everything.
| Quote: | | Oh...so you WON'T watch "The Gift" b/c you just don't care enough to remember what ACTUALLY happened. Because you would rather just go with your memory than go and correct your mistakes with the CANON info...okay, I can live with that... |
I don't have the episode on tape or DVD and I won't waste my money on a season 4-7 DVD.
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Voyager2004
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| Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:12 pm |
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| Quote: | | Yes, it's OK for Kes to be out of character but not for any other Voyager main character. And it's not OK for you to have Kes returned in any other way. That's because you simply dont want Kes back! Therefore you can't or won't accept any other option. When it comes to stubborn refusal, you are as good as me! |
It's okay for others to be out of character, if the episode provides a good reason...and it IS okay for Kes to be returned...again IF the story is a good. But you have yet to provide a GOOD storyline...
Oh, and I said it once, so I'll say it again...Stop telling me what I do or don't want Kes to do!!!
| Quote: | | The Ocampa on Suspiria's array are still Ocampa and Kes could use their way to prolong her lifespan. Besides that, Founder who's words you so happily are repeating, stated that she became so powerful that she could ovecome aging. So maybe she could just do that. |
It's also been stated that she was one her way back to OCAMPA, not to the ARRAY...duh...but you're not willing to watch "The Gift" or "Fury" again to REMEMBER that...so of course, how would you know...
And I know what Founder said, and it was a plausible explanation, but Trek obviously said that isn't what happened when she came back nice and old in Fury.
| Quote: | The Doctor would not fail twice. He never did that in any episode. That would be out of character for him. Besides that, we also have Seven's Borg technology which can overwin everything.
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Out of character for him...mhmm...right...he couldn't fix Icheb in "Q2." So was that out of character for him as well?! I don't think so...therefore, he could have failed again...so NOT being out of character for him...One's "failings" and "successes" doesn't define their "character." You're obviously not into acting, otherwise you'd know that.
| Quote: | | I don't have the episode on tape or DVD and I won't waste my money on a season 4-7 DVD. |
Oh, so you don't care to go and find out the TRUTH revealed in those episodes...okay, I gotcha! Meaning your debates from here on forward are pointless because you don't want to KNOW the TRUTH...okay...Roger that.
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Lynx
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| Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:27 am |
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| Lynx wrote: | | Yes, it's OK for Kes to be out of character but not for any other Voyager main character. And it's not OK for you to have Kes returned in any other way. That's because you simply dont want Kes back! Therefore you can't or won't accept any other option. When it comes to stubborn refusal, you are as good as me! |
| Voyager2004 wrote: | It's okay for others to be out of character, if the episode provides a good reason...and it IS okay for Kes to be returned...again IF the story is a good. But you have yet to provide a GOOD storyline...
Oh, and I said it once, so I'll say it again...Stop telling me what I do or don't want Kes to do!!! |
I have already provided a good storyline which brings back the real Kes into the Star Trek saga.
| Lynx wrote: | | The Ocampa on Suspiria's array are still Ocampa and Kes could use their way to prolong her lifespan. Besides that, Founder who's words you so happily are repeating, stated that she became so powerful that she could ovecome aging. So maybe she could just do that. |
| Voyager2004 wrote: | It's also been stated that she was one her way back to OCAMPA, not to the ARRAY...duh...but you're not willing to watch "The Gift" or "Fury" again to REMEMBER that...so of course, how would you know...
And I know what Founder said, and it was a plausible explanation, but Trek obviously said that isn't what happened when she came back nice and old in Fury. [/b] |
Now, why should I spend time and money on two episodes which I really hate? That would be really stupid of me, wouldn't it? As for your other comments, it seems pretty clear that you only are trying to annoy and provoke which will not succeed in this case. "Nice and old.....yeah right! Shows your distaste for the real Kes, the one we saw in seasons 1-3 when Voyager still was a great show to watch.
| Voyager2004 wrote: | The Doctor would not fail twice. He never did that in any episode. That would be out of character for him. Besides that, we also have Seven's Borg technology which can overwin everything.
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| Voyager2004 wrote: | | Out of character for him...mhmm...right...he couldn't fix Icheb in "Q2." So was that out of character for him as well?! I don't think so...therefore, he could have failed again...so NOT being out of character for him...One's "failings" and "successes" doesn't define their "character." You're obviously not into acting, otherwise you'd know that. |
The Doctor would not fail with Kes if someone high and mighty decides that the character could be saved. Icheb did survive in the end, didn't he?
And we still have Seven's Borg technology which can fix everything! 
| Lynx wrote: | | I don't have the episode on tape or DVD and I won't waste my money on a season 4-7 DVD. |
| Voyager2004 wrote: | | Oh, so you don't care to go and find out the TRUTH revealed in those episodes...okay, I gotcha! Meaning your debates from here on forward are pointless because you don't want to KNOW the TRUTH...okay...Roger that. |
What "truth"? TIIC:s deliberate insult to the Kes fans. Please spare me from that.
I simply don't want to watch a seson 4-7 episode again. One time was enough.
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StarfleetCommand74656
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| Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:36 am Poll |
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An isolated Dominion remnant is discovered in the Gamma Quadrant. Admiral janeway and Cptain chakotay with the Voyager crew are sent to investigate. when they get there, they discover a renegade changeling using Borg technology to turn the remnant into a collective. Janeway becomes a Borg Queen, and it is up to the Voyager crew to save her. At the end, Voyager NCC-74656-B is launched to explore the Delta quadrant under Capt. Tuvok...
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Whitewolfchevy
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| Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:10 pm |
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| Lt. Colonel Reddings wrote: | If there was to be a Movie, Ten to one it would have Q involved in some form or another. I mean think about it, Voyager did have some extensive realations with the Continuum. Jean-Luc did to, but Were they as intimate as Janeways? Did Picard actually impact the continuum other than 'sparing' humans.
Could result in some interesting creative work for writers. |
These topics do not seem to move very fast. Well Hello people, Joined up while watching the SPIKE Voyager week looking for info if there was another movie at all and came across this site.
Anyways, I thought I would add an idea that I have been thinking of since the series end.
I agree with that Q should be involved. What about something to do with the Continuum being in trouble and since Q has never even thought of having an enemy that could destroy them they do not have the ability to "out think" who or whatever it is so they request the help of both Janeway and Picard. They have time and time again shown Q that they are able to solve whatever problem that was presented to them, this is why Q asks them for help.
Another idea would to go back to what Gene originally wanted for the show. No more conflicts, maybe a rescue or recovery mission back to the delta quadrant to save Enterprise. They can run into old allies that have by this time advanced in there exploration. Not sure of a plot for this idea, just the bare minimum.
One more would have Voyager being stuck in the Delta Quadrant again and could have them visit the old friends, share ideas, solve some small problems that lead to the discovery of creating wormholes that could help spawn a whole new series of star trek exploration of areas outside the Milky Way Galaxy.
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Defiant
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| Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:21 pm |
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Captain Janeway would die if I made a Voyager movie. Oh yeah.
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Wolc
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| Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:39 pm |
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Wouldn't do it. Let' em rest in peace.
Or it would be a Rhode Island movie.
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triptucker
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| Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:08 pm |
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I guess I would explore a peice tready between the borg and starfleet to see were that goes id see how the family would go between 7 and chogoty and I would bring the girl back from the delta quardent who had the thng with kim and have them marry
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Andi McDougal
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| Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:54 am |
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I still like the idea of making "The Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" into a movie.
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squiggy
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| Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:55 am |
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I wouldn't bother. They shouldn't make movies off of TOS, Voy, TNG, Ds9, or Ent. They should make something new. And that's what I would do
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LCDR THOR
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| Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:20 pm "Your movie question" reply |
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Please check the question I posted on 04.25.07 @ 11:10(ish) a.m. Your answer lies there.
Please, let's generate some hype regarding this. I intend to contact Paramount and sit down with the a few members of the creative staff. I feel confident that I will be allowed to present this idea since I don't want any compensation. I'd just like to see the film!!
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LCDR THOR
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| Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:25 pm |
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Please check the Future of Star Trek forum for a message entitled: Voyager film idea: What do YOU think? I believe you'll find it interesting. Let me know what you think.
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LCDR THOR
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| Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:51 pm Re: "Your movie question" reply |
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| LCDR THOR wrote: | Please check the question I posted on 04.25.07 @ 11:10(ish) a.m. Your answer lies there.
Please, let's generate some hype regarding this. I intend to contact Paramount and sit down with the a few members of the creative staff. I feel confident that I will be allowed to present this idea since I don't want any compensation. I'd just like to see the film!! |
OOPS!! Im kinda new to the message board thing. Usually I just call or e-mail my friends, hence the mistake here.
My Idea was this: Time travel backwards using the Enterprise "Quantum War" as the reason. The story takes place during a time frame when DS9 is still around and Voyager is still in the Delta quadrant.
Using U.S.S. Voyager's relative proximity to the Borg (as opposed to anyone in the Alpha quadrant), Deep Space 9's proximity to the Dominion via their neighboring stable wormhole, and a new, unavoidable and devastating threat issued by the Dominion against mankind and all it's allies, I propose that we weave a tale of galactic proportions (pardon the pun), and so the premise goes...
The Vorta have whispered their poisons into the ears of the Changeling Founders for years, since their failed attack on the Alpha quadrant. With a great deal more intelligence about the United Federation of Planets' races, their battle tactics, and their values, the Vorta have inspired the Founders to act on their need for vengeance, or as the Vorta have convinced the Changelings to call it, "justice". The races of the United Federation of Planets proved themselves to be formidable adversaries, an underestimation promulgated by arrogance that will not happen again.
Putting to use the massive amounts of newly acquired data they have on their prey, the Founders have outwardly declared war on mankind and are sending an armada of Jem'Hadar storm troops to the Alpha quadrant via the Deep Space 9 wormhole. Deep Space 9 stood no chance. The Jem'Hadar's orders are simple... destroy mankind, Earth, and any of men's allies who stand in their way... utterly wipe them out... all of them.
With the news that the Dominion has declared war on all humanity, and any allies who would come to their aid, the leadership of the United Federation of Planets, against their own moral and ethical codes, devises a plan to incite and foment a war between their common adversaries, the Dominion and the Borg. The Borg invade the Gamma quadrant and as the war is waged both the Borg's and Changeling's abilities to adapt are pushed to new limits, while the battle for the survival of all mankind rages on 60,000 lightyears away. The entire galaxy is at war. Peace will be had by the victors, either through desolation, or complete domination.
Will humanity regress 300 years to their former, destructive selves to survive the Dominion onslaught? Does the Dominion have what it takes to win a war against both the United Federation of Planets and the Borg? Will the Borg assimilate the Dominion and their technology, becoming an even more powerful enemy?
Ultimately, what will determine the outcome of this galactic war comes down to one, simple question: Who wants to live more?
The ending of this tale is not yet set. I would like the opportunity to talk about this story and it's ending with a member or members of the Star Trek writing staff .
I am hoping that in these few paragraphs I can capture the imagination of someone that can help me bring this story to life on the screen, big or small. If in fact you the reader are such a person, and you know someone on Star Trek's creative staff, please contact me at this e-mail address: [email protected].
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lieutenant may
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| Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:05 pm |
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I think it should be about all of voy getting back together to go back to the DQ this time to just explore. Because maybe they find a new way to get to the DQ and then back to the AQ in a blink of an eye.
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lieutenant may
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| Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:08 pm |
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By the way LCDR THOR your not the only one who is almost completly new at this cause i pretty much just joined.
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