Holmes Gearing Up for Silent Birth?

Leo Wyatt · **Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:43 pm**

There is no dang way to keep silent during labor. Unless you are some kind of vulcan and have no emotions. Labor pains hurt like omg!

Birdy · Socialist Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.

^ Exactly Deb!

This is so weird. Why would it traumatize the child?? Omg! The child is shocked already because it goes from that warm, cosy place, into the tough, cold world! If she would give birth in a bath tub I would understand, but not making any noise as the mother... I would do whatever I wanted at that moment, it's painful, it's weird and it's extraordinary, why not scream?

Brightstar82 · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:42 am**

Thats Impossible to stay quiet during birth I mean that cant expect a woman to remain quiet there's just no way thats possible

Seven of Nine · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:40 am**

It is- I did

I had a very strange labour, to the point that I didn't know I was in labour till my waters broke, then I had an epidural as they had to give me some drugs to speed things up as there was blood in the waters. Oh, and then Samantha got stuck and I had to have a cesarean section.

ILoveHarry · Admiral Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 7909 Location: Houston

But if it is their beliefs, and it is not hurting anyone or anything, who are we to judge?

Leo Wyatt · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:03 am**

Not talking about their beliefs and not judging their beliefs. It is impossible as I said not to say or scream anything. You have to have no emotions. With all due respect, I have three kids not counting the one I lost. So, yeah speaking of a mom with experience..
You can't we don't feel any pain or can't scream cause we do scream and it is impossible not too. Try being there with me during labor with my kids, you will see but it's too late lol..

Birdy · Socialist Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.

Leo Wyatt · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:13 am**

It is hard not to scream. Labor is not easy as some people think it is.

Seven of Nine · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:28 pm**

The epidural wasn't fully effective until I had the c section. Before then, I did have some pain, but it wasn't enough to make me scream (and gallstone pain is 1000 times worse, and after a few attacks of them I didn't scream either).

Leo Wyatt · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:34 pm**

Yeah but you the only person I heard of not to scream, so 100% do scream. But it is worth it though, got to admit myself. I had an epidural with Allen, put to sleep with David, and spinal with Anna.

39 hours with Allen in labor. 16 hours with David. I didn't go into labor with Anna cause it was planned c-section.

Lord Borg · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:54 pm**

No, She wouldnt have medication, I think I read it is againts their belifes.

charlie · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:03 pm**

They can believe in any religion they want and it is their free will. I am no woman and I know I definetly couldn't go without screaming if I was a woman. Deb liked to break my fingers when she was in labor. Plus bursting my ear drums at that. She usually a pretty pain intolerate but labor got to her.

Katie will find out it is not easy.

IntrepidIsMe · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:10 pm**

I think it's kind of strange, but if she wants to then more power to her.

Lord Borg · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:47 pm**

Heh, indeed, more power to her, it's odd though, how she quickly abandond her catholic belifes for this one

magenta · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:19 pm**

I had some interest in this religion a few years ago.I wasnt interested in joining it just curious what all the fuss was about.
The idea is to sheild people,adults,children and babies from birth from trauma/noise/yelling/arguements etc.
I personally think its not a great way to live or bring up kids as the whole world is full of violence,noise,stress and trauma.I think life is all about those things and how amazing the human mind grows and learns to be stronger from those experiences!
If a baby or child is brought up in this way they are going to be unprepared for any of lifes up and downs and end up an emotional wreck!
So let the litigation begin,if you cant take any questions or opinions of your beliefs it shouldnt be operating!

Ziona · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:34 pm**

Poor poor Katie... *sighs*

Someone save her from Cruise.

WeAz · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:40 pm**

Don't you mean Scientology...

Ziona · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:44 pm**

I guess I'm saying anyone who would put their wife through that is a little strange. I mean, I don't want to tread on anyone's feet when it comes to Scientology and religion, as I don't claim any given religion... but, I mean, from the articles I read it seemed like Cruise was sort of forcing her to go through with this... and that's just cruel.

Lord Borg · **Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:14 pm**

Leo Wyatt · **Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:15 am**

In my opinion, I believe their marriage will not last long. Most hollywood star actors marriages end in divorce. I know divorce happens in non hollywood people too but I do see alot of actors divorcing.

magenta · **Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:23 pm**

I think he realised he was getting older and time was running out.He ditched nicole because they couldnt have kids together,their own anyway!Found a vulnerable young woman to train up into his scientology stuff.Someone to manipulate into having a child with him only months after being with him.
Just so he could fulfil his wish to raise a child from birth following the scientology relgion.
I think he is a self obssesed person and any husband that would expect their wife to not express any pain in a very painful situation.Does not love their wife at all!

harrykims#1fan · **Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:34 am**

the plus side to it all if cruise is holding her hand he's gonna get it broken...if she cant scream she might as well make him do it instead right?

Lord Borg · **Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:23 pm**

Leo Wyatt · **Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:16 am**

Unless she is a saint, I am pretty sure she wil say some words.. I know I did.