1701-A A ship with many troubles... why?

jameskirk · Crewman Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 4

Why do you feel ENTERPRISE-A was such a wreck when Kirk first took command? Mr. Scott said in my extended version of the first movie with the ENTEERPRISE- A he felt it wasn't built as well. I know she didn't have much shakedown time before she had to go rescue the hostages from NIMBUS. But i still wounder how the pervious captain and crew could let her get that bad.

Another question... do you feel that KIRK liked the first ENTERPRISE BETTER?

Sonic74205 · **Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:16 pm**

Yes in think he liked the 1st one better.

Kirks crew was the first crew of the ENTERPRISE-A

It had just been built when they had took command of it. They hadent even finished working on the ENTERPRISE-A when it was launched to go to Nimbus in ST: V

Solitary Poet · **Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:59 pm**

Most of the commentaries and recourses I have found state that the 1701-A is actually the 1700 re-commissioned as the 1701-A and is clearly a refit like the original 1701 and not a new ship.

jameskirk · Crewman Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 4

Yes I did no that this ship's first name was YORKTOWN. Thanks for your input...

Solitary Poet · **Thu Mar 03, 2005 2:06 pm**

Thanks for the information, the Yorktown was 1717 so I guess my info was wrong. Now all we have to do is figure out how it got into such a deplorable condition. All I know is there were no new Constitution class starships made after the refit, during the movie era.

Sonic74205 · **Fri Mar 04, 2005 6:37 pm**

well im not surprised it was in a mess. they basically made a new ship accept they used the base of an old ship. The refit takes at least 7 months to do and the entire ship is completely different than the older version so im not surprised it would be a mess with all of the new systems being put into it.

Kuro-chan · **Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:11 pm**

Ah, but Mr. Scott said the ship was "Put together by monkeys", so if I were him, I would watch out for banana peels.

Also, there is no direct canon information to support that the Yorktown was re-commissioned as the Enterprise-A

Lord Borg · **Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:24 am**

The Enterprise-A is a ship that was re commmisioned, I just dont rember what.

thegame · **Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:58 am**

Anything would be a let down from the original Enterprise. Remember, the NCC-1701 served from 2245-2286, more than forty years (despite the dialogue error by Commander Starfleet in STIII). Scotty was a part of the crew since at least 2265.

Lt Cmdr Murray · **Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:18 pm Lt Cmdr Murray**

In that era, they weren't able to detect all the problems as easily as they could in the later series. Naturally there were bound to be problems.

zeframcochrane · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 30

i have info from a friend that in one of the later deleted scenes of the movie, the dedication plauque says uss yorktowne with and "e" at the end.

my source also tells me that more than one of the computer moniters in the movie still has its schematics displaying yorktown.

i guess the displays could be a computer glitch that hasnt been rectified, and the dedication plaque was because theyb hadnt made the new one in time for the launch of the ship.

Undercover · Ensign, Junior Grade Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 36

On star trek motion picture the enterprise didnt even have warpdrive working and the transporters were down, and they still were sent by starfleet to the cloud. Just like star trek V, the enterprise is a disaster and still sent to nimbus III. And in star trek VII, the enterprise b is sent on a test cruise without anything installed except engines and tractor beam and it nearly got them destroyed.Enterprise-A should have been fixed before they sent it off, if starfleet was that desperate, they should have sent a invasion ship from earth and went to nimbus III. There were other ships in drydock and in starbases that could have made the trip as well.

squiggy · **Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:54 pm**

I do believe that the Enterprise-A was left in a delapatated condition because Starfleet wanted the crew of the original Enterprise, who had hijacked it, after sabotaging the USS Exelcsior(or whatever that word is), taking the Enterprise to a forbidden planet, BLOWING IT UP, and then violating the temporal prime directive.
It's starfleets way of getting them to refit a ship FOR THEM without taking up dry-dock space.

ZiriDelvar · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 79

Perhaps the Enterprise-A needed so much work because the people working on it didn't care as much as those working on the refit of the original Enterprise. Also, by that time, starships had become pretty run-of-the mill, but when the Constitution class ships were first made, it was more of a new thing to have a ship that size. By Enterprise-A time, Constitution class ships were small compared with ships like the Excelsior.