Favorite World Leader

Cathexis · **Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:53 pm**

The Pope was interesting?

jk....

harrykims#1fan · **Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:11 pm**

George Dubya Bush for no reason

sabertooth1217 · **Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:23 pm**

President Bill Clinton.

Cathexis · **Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:35 pm**

^^What makes you say Bill Clinton?

Republican_Man · **Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:45 pm**

Yeah, I would like to know as well. IMO, he was not a good president and was a bad world leader.

Cathexis · **Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:48 pm**

Republican_Man · **Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:49 pm**

Only because he was President of the United States

Cathexis · **Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:53 pm**

LightningBoy · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:06 am**

Though I disagreed with most of his policy, I find it hard to disagree with the fact that Bill Clinton was an effective world leader. The man was a charismatic genious; and he knew how to manipulate facts to justify his cases. A former Rhode's Scholar, he always had the wit to be (or at least appear) successful. I will give him the credit he deserves.

Republican_Man · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:32 pm**

The charismatic ability to change opinions isn't the only thing to being a good world leader

The thing you have to be able to do is really lead the people. All Clinton really knew how to do was campaign.
You have to look at it in broader terms than just that.

TrekkieMage · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:35 pm**

I can't remember who said it, but someone said that in order to be a good president (and in turn world leader) you need to be able to persuade. And campaigning is persuading people that you know how to lead. Clinton was a good leader, perhaps he didn't do as much in foreign policy as other presidents, but he was a good leader.

Republican_Man · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:43 pm**

It is a key aspect to leadership, but it's not nearly the only thing. Persuasion and the art of speaking aren't the only things that qualify good leadership. If they were, then I would agree with you. But they aren't.

EDIT: But alas; this topic isn't about world leaders that we don't like, but rather our favorite world leaders. If Clinton's one of your favorite world leaders, I strongly disagree, but more power to ya.

CJ Cregg · Commodore Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 1254

Clinton was an excellent WORLD leader. The world loved him. The western world anyway. Can't say the same for the current pres.

Theresa · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:55 pm**

Since there is a "time" restriction, I'll have to go with Abraham Lincoln. The guy definitely had the right idea.

Republican_Man · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:58 pm**

Now that you bring up distant relatives, here's a good world leader (well, as a general, not as a President): Ulysses S. Grant, the general who can be credited with winning the Civil War for the North. I'm related to him

Cathexis · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:00 pm**

Theresa · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:05 pm**

To be fair, I have to add Benedict Arnold. He did A LOT of good for this country before betraying it.

My Dad's family can trace back to some king in Scotland, but I don't find that nearly as cool. JMO, though.

Republican_Man · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:26 pm**

lol. Funny story. Seriously. It's believed that we're also related to Benedict Arnold.

Cathexis · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:37 pm**

Republican_Man · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:38 pm**

Never heard of him, and don't believe I"m related to him either

The only leaders/major historical figures I'm related to are the said two

And lol. Speaking on relations to the great general US Grant, last year, at the Future Business Leaders of America competition, I was practicing my speech on Secularism to an aquaintance-turned friend. I commented on how US Grant signed Christmas into law, and he said, "My distant relative." lol. I met a guy I'm distantly related to at my school.

It was funny. I jokingly call him "Distant Cousin" usually.

Valathous · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:45 pm**

RM... You did not just say you've never heard of Charles de Gaulle....

*shuns*

Cathexis · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:48 pm**

Valathous · **Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:57 pm**

He only lead the French Revolution in WWII. Nothing significant. *sighs*

Republican_Man · **Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:00 am**

Sorry, guys. Hardly learned anything about French history. Personally, I don't care much. It's unimportant to me

But that is cool, though.

Valathous · **Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:02 am**

It was WWII, though.... Should be manditory.

Anyways.

Napoleon Bonaparte.