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Link, the Hero of Time
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There's such an uproar about this movie. Some places are pulling it from their theaters because of what it is about.
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:10 pm |
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Now that's ridiculous. I don't want to see it, and I do think that part of the reason why it's getting such great reviews is because of the politics of it, but to ban it from the theatre simply because a proportional few people are incredibly disliking of this?
My gosh. It's not like it's the Book of Daniel, which I think is much more reasonable to pull out (although that's not for here). Besides, it's rated R and in the movie theatres. Whoa, wow! So two men love each other in the movie. Whooaa! [sarcasm]Big deal![/sarcasm]. It's in the theatres. If you want to spend your money on it, spend your money on it. If not, don't spend your money on it and see Narnia instead!
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| Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:09 pm |
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Yeah, I heard about this. I might be able to understand where they're coming from if the movie supported homosexuality in particular, but it doesn't. Not that I would think it should be pulled if it did, but then at least they'd have a feasible reason.
| Exalya wrote: | | I'm curious about the movie, and wouldn't mind seeing it...only thing is, I wouldn't be "allowed" to. So I suppose that's another to add to the list of things I'll see when I turn 18. |
Don't be silly....... it's 17, 
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| Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:48 am |
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Finally got around to seeing this. It was almost just like the book, besides a few small details. Would be worth the money.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:54 am |
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Yeah, I think a big part of the reason they won so many, though, was for political reasons, and nothing will change my mind.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:00 am |
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Perhaps you should ask yourself "Why this movie?" then. There have been plenty of similar movies in the past. Maybe because there are two award winning actors? Or maybe it's the award winning director? Or maybe it's the pulitzer-prize winning author?
There have been plenty of previous opportunities to make movies carrying this theme into political catalysts.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:19 am |
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And do you see the swing of Hollywood more in that direction? I sure do. Especially when there's so much debate over gay marriage, etc. It's trying to sway public opinion and give awards to something with something that is partially a political agenda.
Now, do I believe that's all it is? No, of course not. As you said, there are a lot of good things that this movie has to offer. But I believe that there is a solid political motive for at least half of this.
That's my opinion anyway. Feel free to disagree.
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Link, the Hero of Time
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| Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:03 pm |
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RM, if you do not want to look at things from both sides dont post. You're throwing out all other evidence based on what You belief is right, with no evidence to credit your beliefs.
And with that, try to stay on topic.
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| Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:43 pm |
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Just saw this again. I thought I'd be completely bored, figuring I was kind of the first time. Instead, it turned out to be better.
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| Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:49 pm |
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Excellent Movie, Saw it at the cinema on Saturday. Best movie for a long time and not because of its political agenda, which isn't that big really if you consider the story.
Hope it wins Best Picture at the Oscars, it is the Best Picture
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| Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:58 pm |
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Think what you will of it--I won't see it--but I like what Bill O'Reilly has to say in his latest column. I think he's right-on.
| Quote: | The Good, the Bad, and the Pup Tent
One of my favorite western movies ever is "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly," a sprawling three hour Sergio Leone shoot-'em-up where Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, and Eli Wallach star as weapons of mass destruction. I like this film because it's easy to understand: Three macho guys are looking for gold and you better not get in their way, pardner.
The old American west was a place where men were men, and women were, well, in short supply. I mean, covering thousands of miles in a dusty covered wagon wasn't exactly an enchanting experience for the ladies. Don't even ask about the plumbing.
But the new American west is a bit different, at least according to the new widely praised film "Brokeback Mountain." I haven't seen the movie because the lead actors play bisexual shepherds and, please forgive me, that isn't on top of my viewing wish list. I understand I'm a barbarian.
According to friends of mine who have seen "Brokeback," the key scene takes place in a pup tent. Apparently, two shepherds "bond" in said tent. If I do see the movie, I know what will run through my mind during that scene: What would Clint and Lee and Eli have done, had they stumbled upon the tent? I believe gunfire might have been involved.
I also believe "Brokeback Mountain" will win the Oscar next month for Best Picture of the Year. I could be wrong, as left-wing bomb thrower George Clooney is very popular in Hollywood, and his movie about Ed Murrow might prevail. But it looks to me like Academy Award voters will throw Clooney the Best Supporting Actor award, opening the tent flap for "Brokeback" to win it all.
These days, Hollywood considers itself not only a place of entertainment, but also a cultural trendsetter. There is no question that many showbiz types would like to banish any societal stigma associated with homosexuality. Thus, a mainstream movie that portrays gay conduct as nuanced and complicated, as "Brokeback" reportedly does, contributes to a more broadminded approach to homosexuality--a more accepting view.
So that's what's in play this year at the Academy Awards--a social and political statement. And that's why Star Wars and Harry Potter and Narnia, the three largest grossing movies of the year, are not in the best picture running. Spectacular movies often make tons of money, but they do not advance any cause. Gone are the days when "Gone With the Wind"-type entertainment ruled the Hollywood day.
So how should we process the current Hollywood award process? Well, I don't have a problem with it. Certainly, it is wrong that some gay Americans, especially teenagers, are made to suffer because of their predilections. Every American should be able to pursue happiness on an equal basis, including gays.
But I also think the entertainment industry should be up front in explaining what films it values and why it finds them especially worthy. Most Americans are not gonna see "Brokeback Mountain" because they don't relate to the subject, and if Hollywood is now in the "culture-shaping business," it should admit it.
So look for Oscar night to be a huge night for shepherds who roam the range in their own consensual way. Hollywood is making a statement and Americans should be geting the message loud and clear.
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CJ Cregg
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| Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:55 am |
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Well what a surprise. O'Reilly hasn't seen the film and has judged it anyway
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