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Hitchhiker
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| CBC News wrote: | CIA running secret prison system: report
Last Updated Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:57:18 EST
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The CIA is running a secret prison system in Eastern Europe to interrogate key al-Qaeda captives, according to a published report.
The Washington Post reported that the Soviet-era compound is part of a covert prison system that has been run for nearly four years by the U.S. spy agency as part of Washington's war on terrorism.
The paper said there are sites in at least eight countries, including Thailand and Afghanistan as well as several democracies in Eastern Europe.
But the Post said it is not publishing the names of the Eastern European countries involved in the covert program, at the request of senior U.S. officials.
They argued that the disclosure might disrupt counterterrorism efforts in those countries and elsewhere and could make them targets of possible terrorist retaliation.
The existence and locations of the facilities are known to only a handful of top officials in the U.S.
No information is known about the facilities, including who is kept there, how decisions are made about the detainees and how long they are detained.
The secret detention system was conceived in the first months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
The Post said CIA officials have been increasingly debating the system, questioning the legality, morality and practicality of holding suspects in isolation and secrecy.
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Meh, I am not that surprised.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:49 pm |
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O'Reilly just did a report and segment on it at the beginning of the program. It's actually not definite, it's really just evidence-backed speculation, contrary to what the CBC says in this article, but it's very close to fact, however. However, I think that this is fine. If they don't feel that these people are safe in the US, plus they have to hide their location from al Quada for a number of reasons, of which some are obvious, therefore I think it's okay. There's nothing wrong with it. They're terrorists, after all, and we have to keep the American people as safe as can be.
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| Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:52 pm |
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I suppose as long as the prisoners are treated with respect, then it shouldn't be a problem. However, I don't see the point of keeping them "secret" unless they don't want the governments of the countries in which they're located to know about them. In which case, I'd say its a problem.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:53 pm |
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Looks like I was mistaken when I watched. It is true, actually.
I encourage everyone to check Rush Limbaugh's commentary on this, based on a caller, comparing this and the Valarie Plame thing.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_110205/content/across_the_fruited_plain.guest.html
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:11 pm |
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Now, what I don't get is how, if these prisons do exist, there's no investigation into who leaked them--which could result in actual DANGER, something the Plame "leak" didn't do, and never would have done. Where's the investigation into this, hmm? We have an investigation into something that didn't, and wouldn't have, even result(ed) in any national security threat, and yet there's no investigation into who, if these prison systems are true, leaked out the story--which actually IS a national security threat? Ridiculous. Shows just how much the Libby story is really about getting at Bush.
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GOP Leaders Want Probe Into 'Secret Prisons' Leak
Tuesday, November 08, 2005
WASHINGTON � Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and House Speaker Dennis Hastert are circulating a letter calling for a congressional leak investigation into the disclosure of secret U.S. interrogation centers abroad.
The Washington Post reported Nov. 2 on the existence of secret U.S. prisons in Eastern Europe for terrorism suspects. The Bush administration has neither confirmed nor denied that report.
"If accurate, such an egregious disclosure could have long-term and far-reaching damaging and dangerous consequences, and will imperil our efforts to protect the American people and our homeland from terrorist attacks," stated the letter, which Hastert's office said the House speaker had signed. There was no immediate word on whether Frist had given it his signature.
The Associated Press obtained a copy of the draft request to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts of Kansas and his House counterpart, Intelligence Committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra of Michigan.
Hoekstra's spokesman, Jamal Ware, declined to comment because the office had not yet received the letter.
The letter said a joint probe by the House and Senate intelligence committees should determine who leaked the information and under what authority.
"What is the actual and potential damage done to the national security of the United States and our partners in the global War on Terror?" the letter asked. "We will consider other changes to this mandate based on your recommendations."
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Republican leaders should also investigate possible manipulation of prewar intelligence on Iraq and the disclosure of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson's identity.
"If Speaker Hastert and Majority Leader Frist are finally ready to join Democrats' demands for an investigation of possible abuses of classified information, they must direct the House and Senate Intelligence Committees to investigate all aspects of that issue," said Pelosi.
The letter says the leaking of classified information by employees of the U.S. government appears to have increased in recent years, "establishing a dangerous trend that, if not addressed swiftly and firmly, likely will worsen."
"We are hopeful that you will be able to accomplish this task in a bipartisan manner given general agreement that intelligence matters should not be politicized," it added.
The Post story of a week ago said that the CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important Al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, as part of a covert prison system set up by the agency four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries. The eight, said the story, include several democracies in eastern Europe.
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Looks like you aren't the only one who wants an investigation.
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:36 pm |
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I know, and I was glad when I heard a little bit ago that they called for one.
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