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Sneaky_found_47
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 Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:43 pm A New Movie? |
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I heard from my brother that there is going to be a new movie comming out, and that all they are saying is that it's going to be a newer, younger cast. If this is true, could that mean from the Academy?
-tori
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borgslayer
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| Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:53 pm Re: A New Movie? |
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| Sneaky_found_47 wrote: | I heard from my brother that there is going to be a new movie comming out, and that all they are saying is that it's going to be a newer, younger cast. If this is true, could that mean from the Academy?
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All of your saying are false.
The new movie is a prequel to the Enterprise. 
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le pire
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| Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:56 am |
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Hi,
I'm new to this forum.
There is a new film slated for 2007 and it will be a prequel.
The problem with a prequel in general, and probably the reason that "enterprise" failed, is that it is exactly contrary to Gene Rodenberry's vision of Star Trek. A prequel looks BACKWARDS (even if it is still "in the future") and Star Trek is meant to be be continually looking forward.
A newer, younger cast is a great idea, but that in and of itself is not enough.
etienne
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blueskin
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| Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:18 pm |
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Hi all this is my first post here 
If the new movie is going to be a prequel. I say base it on the 3 books The Eugenics wars, the rise and fall of khan volume 1, vol 2 and To Reign in hell the exile of khan
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Voyager2004
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| Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:57 pm |
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| le pire wrote: | Hi,
I'm new to this forum.
There is a new film slated for 2007 and it will be a prequel.
The problem with a prequel in general, and probably the reason that "enterprise" failed, is that it is exactly contrary to Gene Rodenberry's vision of Star Trek. A prequel looks BACKWARDS (even if it is still "in the future") and Star Trek is meant to be be continually looking forward.
A newer, younger cast is a great idea, but that in and of itself is not enough. |
Hi and welcome to STV...
I agree very much with what you're saying about the "prequel" looking backwards even if it is in the future and it being contrary to Roddenberry's vision. That has to be the reason that Enterprise failed. It's looking backward in time, not forward...The "past" in Trek's history has already been set. And now they're trying to add "Jonathan Archer" and his retarded crew to the trek history...it doesn't work. And apparently they're trying to do it with a cast that hasn't even had a series...that's what sets trek apart from other movies...we don't come up with characters and plots out of thin air, we actually have characters already predefined.
Moving backwards is a WAY WAY bad idea on Trek's part...didn't they already learn their lesson?
Even the Eugenics Wars looks backwards, it wouldn't be a good idea.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:15 pm |
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I think there should be either a voyager movie or an Enterprise movie. But longs as it is not boring and it has to be well written. Longs as Braga and Berman does not write it...
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Captain.Dan V2
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:32 pm |
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| Voyager2004 wrote: | | le pire wrote: | Hi,
I'm new to this forum.
There is a new film slated for 2007 and it will be a prequel.
The problem with a prequel in general, and probably the reason that "enterprise" failed, is that it is exactly contrary to Gene Rodenberry's vision of Star Trek. A prequel looks BACKWARDS (even if it is still "in the future") and Star Trek is meant to be be continually looking forward.
A newer, younger cast is a great idea, but that in and of itself is not enough. |
Hi and welcome to STV...
I agree very much with what you're saying about the "prequel" looking backwards even if it is in the future and it being contrary to Roddenberry's vision. That has to be the reason that Enterprise failed. It's looking backward in time, not forward...The "past" in Trek's history has already been set. And now they're trying to add "Jonathan Archer" and his retarded crew to the trek history...it doesn't work. And apparently they're trying to do it with a cast that hasn't even had a series...that's what sets trek apart from other movies...we don't come up with characters and plots out of thin air, we actually have characters already predefined.
Moving backwards is a WAY WAY bad idea on Trek's part...didn't they already learn their lesson?
Even the Eugenics Wars looks backwards, it wouldn't be a good idea. |
HALULUA Someone else who dislikes Enterprise, I agree it totally it is a bad idea which is to put it mildly an insult to Gene Roddenbury, Not to mention totally contradicting some episodes in TNG where Scotty (God Rest His Soul) gets hammered and goes to a holodeck and asks for a recreated of the original Enterprise, He says roughly "The Enterprise no A,B,C,D or bloody numbers", That may not be exactly like he says it but in general it is right.... I think.
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Voyager2004
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:51 pm |
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Ya, I've seen the episode you're talking about...b/c the computer would have asked him "Enterprise NX-01, Enterprise-A..." etc.
No, the next movie should have NOTHING to do with the Enterprise crew. Nothing to do with those Star Trek "wannabe's." It's just not what Roddenberry had in mind...and yes, the next movie should be VERY VERY well written.
Yes, it should be a Voyager movie, but that's just me. 
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Captain.Dan V2
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:10 pm |
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I dunno because in the Episodes Voyager has already returned to the Alpha quadrant, But it could be a reunion missin of sorts.
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Voyager2004
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:17 pm |
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OH MY GOD! I'm gonna flip out if another person uses the excuse for not having a Voyager movie of "Voyager is already in the Alpha Quadrant!!!" Please, that is the most poor excuse I've ever heard for anything. Just b/c Voyager reached its goal and made it back to the AQ, doesn't mean that there's plenty for the ship to do in the Alpha, Beta, or Gamma Quadrants. Please,  . I don't settle for poor excuses such as those.
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Captain.Dan V2
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:20 pm |
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Hey, I said a movie could be made about them all in a reunion, Or an alternate ending to them reaching home.
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Voyager2004
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:42 pm |
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A reunion? Reunion as in what? The only way I think a reunion would "work" is if they're all on the ship together actually doing a mission. Not just a "hey, let's get back together and recount old times in the DQ."
An alternate ending? Why would Trek do that? That would be retarded and not alot of happy people. Well, except for Chakotay and Seven, but that's only one mistake that could be easily fixed in a movie.
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Founder
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:02 pm |
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| Voyager2004 wrote: | | OH MY GOD! I'm gonna flip out if another person uses the excuse for not having a Voyager movie of "Voyager is already in the Alpha Quadrant!!!" Please, that is the most poor excuse I've ever heard for anything. Just b/c Voyager reached its goal and made it back to the AQ, doesn't mean that there's plenty for the ship to do in the Alpha, Beta, or Gamma Quadrants. Please, . I don't settle for poor excuses such as those. |
The reason the idea of Voyager in the Alpha Quadrant is bad is because the show revolved around them being in the Delta Quadrant. Ironically, their home; their quadrant, is almost alien to them now. They don't know it like the ENT-E or Defiant would. Voyager knows Delta Quadrant and that is where the movie should take place. The only way I'd ever support a VOY movie in the Alpha is if a threat came from the Delta and it was up to them to stop it(Not the Borg!!!). I don't want them fighting Romulans or the Dominion. On the same token, if they ever made a DS9 movie, I would want the Dominion or the Pah-Wraiths to be involved somehow as enemies. Scratch that...the Dominion shouldn't be bad...
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:04 pm |
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I totally agree with Founder not fight with the Borg. Trek use the Borg way too much in my opinion. I think Trek needs a brand new enemy to fight....
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Captain.Dan V2
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:22 pm |
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I agree,
The borg are old news and plus they were whipped out by voyager in the final episode.
Perhaps Voyager against the Kaizon ?
No I mean the Hirogen,
Maybe a Hirogen invasion force ?
BTW I mean't a reunion mission.
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Voyager2004
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:02 pm |
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| Founder wrote: | | The reason the idea of Voyager in the Alpha Quadrant is bad is because the show revolved around them being in the Delta Quadrant. Ironically, their home; their quadrant, is almost alien to them now. They don't know it like the ENT-E or Defiant would. Voyager knows Delta Quadrant and that is where the movie should take place. The only way I'd ever support a VOY movie in the Alpha is if a threat came from the Delta and it was up to them to stop it(Not the Borg!!!). I don't want them fighting Romulans or the Dominion. On the same token, if they ever made a DS9 movie, I would want the Dominion or the Pah-Wraiths to be involved somehow as enemies. Scratch that...the Dominion shouldn't be bad... |
Um, those people were all raised in the Alpha Quadrant, it's not really alien to them. Janeway was on many ships in the Alpha Quadrant. She would have to of been to make Captain, duh.
It DOESN'T have to an enemy from the DQ, and if DS9 were to make one, I'd say they're not limited to just the aliens you listed above.
Yes, the Borg are a bit overused, but they make for a good bad guy....Yep, they were pretty much wiped out by Admiral Janeway in "Endgame."
No, b/c Voyager pretty much made a kind of peace with the Hirogen in the 7th season, so they wouldn't do it.
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Founder
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| Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:32 am |
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No, but Janeway and the crew of VOY, were raised in a very different Alpha Quadrant. A lot has changed in the 7 years they had been gone. The Dominion War changed a lot. Not to mention the Borg attack on Earth. Tons of different stuff.
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Tuvok8917
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| Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:02 am |
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I get you're point... And i agree with you're saying. Maybe a good idea for Voy, is that they recieve a message from Neelix, that he need help. Janeway tries to get all her crew back, and they go for the Delta Quardrent, to help Neelix.
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Voyager2004
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| Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:49 am |
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Ya, I get what you're saying Founder, but Voyager's also been back in the Alpha Quadrant, for about what, 3 or 4 years by the time Nemesis came out. So i'm sure there's enough familiarity there after that long.
No, b/c Neelix is still about 30,000 LY from Starfleet. I doubt that Starfleet has developed a faster mode of transportation in just 4 or 5 years after Voyager's return. That would make for one LONG movie if they went after Neelix that way. 
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Lt Cmdr Murray
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| Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:38 pm New Movie |
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I heard that a new movie would only be dependent on how the last movie did.
A voyager movie would only be good if they hadn't made it back to Earth. They could've ended the Voyager series with them just just crossing the quadrants into the Beta Quadrant and a movie could've had them finishing the journey to Earth.
Enterprise; I agree with the other people here. It went backward not forward.
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Monster
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:21 am |
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| Tuvok8917 wrote: | | I get you're point... And i agree with you're saying. Maybe a good idea for Voy, is that they recieve a message from Neelix, that he need help. Janeway tries to get all her crew back, and they go for the Delta Quardrent, to help Neelix. |
But I'm not sure that they'd want to go back for Neelix anyway.
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Tuvok8917
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:22 am |
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That's true, soooooooooo true
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Captain.Dan V2
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:53 pm |
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Although thats true they could say that Nelix after about a year really missed Voyager, Him and his new family decided to try and catch up to Voyager. Unfortuanatly they entered the same transwarp conduit that Voyager did and it destabilized before they could reach Earth, They are now trapped in Romulan territory and are were arrested before they could leave, They made a final transmission to Earth before they were captured, Voyager has got to infiltrate Romulan space, Locate Neelix and kill him.... No actually they have to save him, Killing him would be ok though.
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Voyager2004
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:58 pm |
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seeing as to how the transwarp hub that voyager entered is no longer existent b/c it was destroyed....hmm...can't do that...
| Lt Cmdr Murray wrote: | | A voyager movie would only be good if they hadn't made it back to Earth. They could've ended the Voyager series with them just just crossing the quadrants into the Beta Quadrant and a movie could've had them finishing the journey to Earth. |
Oh dear God...Voyager didn't have to stay in the Delta or Beta Quadrant for a movie...yes the show's point was to GET home, but that does NOT NOT NOT(!!!) require the movie's plot to be the same as well. There's plenty plenty plenty of things in the AQ and GQ for them to do! Why are people so BLIND!!!
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:53 pm |
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Its not a matter of blindness. Its a matter of what the show is about. If a VOY movie revolved around something other than the DQ, it would be stupid. I don't want to see VOY go against the Dominion or Romulans. Thats like making a SW movie that does not have Jedi. Thats like making a LOTR movie without a Hobbit. Thats like making a movie about Harry Potter without Wizards. To add to the list, thats like making a VOY movie without any DQ involvment. VOY is not like TNG. TNG was everywhere so they can pull it off, but VOY was only in the DQ.
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