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Puck
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 Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:46 pm Bush Sends Staff Back to Ethics Class |
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Bush sends staff back to ethics class
Memo: Staff should adhere to 'spirit' of all rules
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- With his chief political aide under investigation as part of a probe into the public unmasking of a CIA operative, President Bush is sending his staff back to school -- ethics school.
Bush is requiring his executive office staff to attend refresher courses on ethics and handling classified materials, according to a White House memo.
"The President has made clear his expectation that each member of his Executive Office of the President (EOP) staff adhere to the spirit as well as the letter of all rules governing ethical conduct for EOP staff," states the memo sent to Bush's staff.
Staff members with security clearances will attend mandatory sessions next week, and those without security clearances will attend mandatory sessions the following week.
The memo went to all EOP staff, which numbers about 3,000, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
The refresher course comes as Bush's top aide, Karl Rove, is under investigation and as Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, faces indictments in connection with the outing of a CIA operative.
Libby, who resigned October 28, pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges of perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements.
Libby is accused of lying to a grand jury and FBI agents about where he first learned Valerie Plame's identity and what he later told reporters about her.
Plame is the wife of former diplomat Joseph Wilson, who had openly criticized the Bush administration.
Libby is not charged with deliberately disclosing the name of a covert agent, which is a federal offense.
Bush has declined to talk publicly about the investigation. On Friday, he deflected questions about Libby and Rove at the Summit of the Americas in Argentina.
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I am sorry, but that is hilarious.
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Brightstar82
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| Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:12 pm |
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It is I agree 
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Hitchhiker
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| Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:17 pm |
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Hilarious? Yes.
Prudent? Indeed.
It makes a lot of sense. Bush loses little by sending these aides back to school, as it's not as if he's doing this when they have a sparklingly clean track record, and gains aides who can quote all the politically/ethically correct propaganda to reporters. Whether or not it has any practical affect is questionable, of course.
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TrekkieMage
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| Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:44 am |
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That is funny!
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Ziyal
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:07 am |
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Bush could use a lil ethics himself, like don't terrorize the poor folk in the middle east 
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:10 am |
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Terrorize the poor folk in the middle east? How in the world is he doing that? No, he's doing the opposite. He's bringing freedom and democracy to the Middle East.
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Ziyal
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:15 am |
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freedom costs a lot of lives then
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:16 am |
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That it often does.
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LightningBoy
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:11 pm |
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Opression wastes even more lives.
But, hey, you just want a veneer of peace, you really don't care what happens in reality, just so long as we don't have to get our hands bloody.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:55 pm |
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Bush did not terrorize the people in the middle east. Just because some people don't agree trying to give the Iraqis back their freedom, you want to say Bush terrorize which he did no such thing. 
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:08 pm |
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Clinton's staff should get this treatment, you know. After all, Sandy Berger committed a real crime, stealing documents from the National Archives.
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Ziyal
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| Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:36 am |
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I do not agree with the way anything has happened in the middle east...including such places as afganistan I can agree that democracy is needed. but by golly you can't exactly force our culture and political beliefs on these people too ya know
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LightningBoy
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| Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:06 am |
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So, it's OK just to let Terrorist regimes force theirs?
More veneer.
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Hitchhiker
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| Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:36 am |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | | So, it's OK just to let Terrorist regimes force theirs? |
No, it's not. But it's not okay to force ours in their stead. The only difference may be that we use honey instead of vinegar, but that doesn't make it any more right. 
Throughout history we humans have had an annoying tendency to force our own society's views upon other societies under the mistaken assumption that somehow we are better. I'm not going to claim that the regime of Saddam Hussein was a better life than what could potentially happen now in Iraq, but it does seem a bit arrogant to presume the people there would prefer to live life our way.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:39 am |
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One thing you got to remember, never give terrorist what they want. Second at least Saddam is not in power and we can try to help the Iraqis have their freedom.
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CJ Cregg
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| Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:46 pm |
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These classes wont do anything. You either have morals and ethics or you don't. You cant be taught with a quick class.
Its just for show if you ask me
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Hitchhiker
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| Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:03 pm |
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| CJ Cregg wrote: | These classes wont do anything. You either have morals and ethics or you don't. You cant be taught with a quick class.
Its just for show if you ask me |
I agree with the second part of your statement, but not the first part.
It's true that a person who is basically immoral in their everyday life won't be very moral at work either. But ethics classes also help one apply their morals. For example, when it comes to the White House, things such as confidential documents are put into the hands of these people every day, and there may be a specific method they need to deal with those documents that they haven't been following as strictly as possible.
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