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Link, the Hero of Time
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But you're still dodging my point, as you have for this entire topic. IT'S NOT SCIENCE.
Philosophy has no place in a science classroom where experimentation and observation should take place. Philosophy adds biases to the mix. Scientists already have enough problems without people adding their personal feelings or beliefs about Why a particular experiment went the way it did.
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Puck
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| Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:28 am |
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| Link, the Hero of Time wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: |
And teaching intelligent design in science isn't one of them. |
But it's not science. It cannot be proven or disproven through tests. It's Philosophy and Religion wrapped up in a psuedoscience coating to try and force it on people.
Because it is no science, it does not belong in a classroom where SCIENCE is to be taught.
You can debate on whether god exists or not all you want, but do it in a philosophy classroom. |
You can't prove or disprove many theories...such as evolution, creationism, the big bang, ID, through tests. Does that mean they are not science? Nope. Intelligent design is an explaination that an intelligent being created the cosmos. That has no religious context in it at all. It doesn't even mean that a 'God' was involved. Some may choose to input their own religious views into it, but ID itself has nothing to do with religion, and is really just as valuable of a theory as many others out there.
(I hope that makes sense...am rather tired  )
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webtaz99
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| Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:30 am |
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Evolution was brought forth as an explanation for how new species come about, not as an explanation for how life began. And it has been scientifically documented (look up the drought of 1977 in the Galapagos Islands).
Although I don't personnally think the "big bang" theory is correct, there is scientific evidence to support it.
I have yet to see scientific evidence for ID. That means something that can be repeatably observed and measured by multiple independent observers.
I have no problem with ID being taught - just not in a science class.
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Micteth-Son of Udas
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| Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:20 pm |
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| webtaz99 wrote: | Evolution was brought forth as an explanation for how new species come about, not as an explanation for how life began. And it has been scientifically documented (look up the drought of 1977 in the Galapagos Islands).
Although I don't personnally think the "big bang" theory is correct, there is scientific evidence to support it.
I have yet to see scientific evidence for ID. That means something that can be repeatably observed and measured by multiple independent observers.
I have no problem with ID being taught - just not in a science class. |
with this i do agree, if ppl want it tought, let it, but there is NO scientific evidence to support it, just what monks wrote.......... i love debating this kind of stuff.
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WeAz
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| Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:40 pm |
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i would teach the theory with the most evidence, and the one that can be scientifically tested, ie: Evolution
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we take a poll, flip a coin
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