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Theresa
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The President declared a state of emergency in LA on the 27th...
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I agree with Sean Hannity, though, now, that this is a massive relief not seen in our history. Look at all the relief that's now happening, with the money going in, such as $2,000 credit cards for each person, and more. That's great to know.
Also great to know is that one of my teachers is matching all the money that the student's of her 5 class periods give her, and for her mother's 81st birthday is donating the money in her name.
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| Theresa wrote: | [Okay, I will remember that the next time we have a thread on "America, Policeman of the World."
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Apples and oranges.[/quote]
No, IMO, it isn't.
But, it's not the topic of this thread, so I'll drop it.
And, hey, your acknowledgement of the apology is greatly appreciated.
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Here's something interesting from Brit Hume's "Special Report"
| Quote: | Thursday, September 08, 2005
By Brit Hume
Now some fresh pickings from the Hurricane Grapevine:
Pork Barrel Projects
Democrats, and some former government engineers, blamed President Bush for cutting the budget for the Army Corps of Engineers (search), claiming the cuts left New Orleans unprepared for a major storm.
But The Washington Post(Registration Needed, article posted below) reports the Bush administration has granted the corps more funding than the previous administration over a similar period and that Louisiana has received far more money for civil works projects than any other state. The paper says much of the funding has been spent not on flood control, but on lawmakers' pet construction projects, including a brand new $750 million canal lock in New Orleans unrelated to flood control.
Environmentally Friendly?
Neither the administration or its critics are saying this, but one reason anti-flooding measures failed to stop Katrina from inundating New Orleans is that some environmental groups successfully resisted new flood control projects. The Sierra Club (search) and other groups sued the Army Corps of Engineers to stop a 1996 plan to raise and fortify Mississippi River levees because the plan would jeopardize Louisiana forests.
And the New Orleans Times-Picayune has reported that "Save our Wetlands" successfully sued the corps of engineers three decades ago to stop construction on floodgates to block storm surges from the Gulf of Mexico into Lake Pontchatrain (search), saying they were too damaging to the lake's eco-system. |
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From the afformentioned Washington Post article.
| Quote: | Money Flowed to Questionable Projects
State Leads in Army Corps Spending, but Millions Had Nothing to Do With Floods
By Michael Grunwald
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 8, 2005; Page A01
Before Hurricane Katrina breached a levee on the New Orleans Industrial Canal, the Army Corps of Engineers had already launched a $748 million construction project at that very location. But the project had nothing to do with flood control. The Corps was building a huge new lock for the canal, an effort to accommodate steadily increasing barge traffic.
Except that barge traffic on the canal has been steadily decreasing.
In Katrina's wake, Louisiana politicians and other critics have complained about paltry funding for the Army Corps in general and Louisiana projects in particular. But over the five years of President Bush's administration, Louisiana has received far more money for Corps civil works projects than any other state, about $1.9 billion; California was a distant second with less than $1.4 billion, even though its population is more than seven times as large.
Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New Orleans dry. But hundreds of millions of dollars have gone to unrelated water projects demanded by the state's congressional delegation and approved by the Corps, often after economic analyses that turned out to be inaccurate. Despite a series of independent investigations criticizing Army Corps construction projects as wasteful pork-barrel spending, Louisiana's representatives have kept bringing home the bacon.
For example, after a $194 million deepening project for the Port of Iberia flunked a Corps cost-benefit analysis, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) tucked language into an emergency Iraq spending bill ordering the agency to redo its calculations. The Corps also spends tens of millions of dollars a year dredging little-used waterways such as the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet, the Atchafalaya River and the Red River -- now known as the J. Bennett Johnston Waterway, in honor of the project's congressional godfather -- for barge traffic that is less than forecast.
The Industrial Canal lock is one of the agency's most controversial projects, sued by residents of a New Orleans low-income black neighborhood and cited by an alliance of environmentalists and taxpayer advocates as the fifth-worst current Corps boondoggle. In 1998, the Corps justified its plan to build a new lock -- rather than fix the old lock for a tiny fraction of the cost -- by predicting huge increases in use by barges traveling between the Port of New Orleans and the Mississippi River.
In fact, barge traffic on the canal had been plummeting since 1994, but the Corps left that data out of its study. And barges have continued to avoid the canal since the study was finished, even though they are visiting the port in increased numbers.
Pam Dashiell, president of the Holy Cross Neighborhood Association, remembers holding a protest against the lock four years ago -- right where the levee broke Aug. 30. Now she's holed up with her family in a St. Louis hotel, and her neighborhood is underwater. "Our politicians never cared half as much about protecting us as they cared about pork," Dashiell said.
Yesterday, congressional defenders of the Corps said they hoped the fallout from Hurricane Katrina would pave the way for billions of dollars of additional spending on water projects. Steve Ellis, a Corps critic with Taxpayers for Common Sense, called their push "the legislative equivalent of looting."
Louisiana's politicians have requested much more money for New Orleans hurricane protection than the Bush administration has proposed or Congress has provided. In the last budget bill, Louisiana's delegation requested $27.1 million for shoring up levees around Lake Pontchartrain, the full amount the Corps had declared as its "project capability." Bush suggested $3.9 million, and Congress agreed to spend $5.7 million.
Administration officials also dramatically scaled back a long-term project to restore Louisiana's disappearing coastal marshes, which once provided a measure of natural hurricane protection for New Orleans. They ordered the Corps to stop work on a $14 billion plan, and devise a $2 billion plan instead.
But overall, the Bush administration's funding requests for the key New Orleans flood-control projects for the past five years were slightly higher than the Clinton administration's for its past five years. Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, the chief of the Corps, has said that in any event, more money would not have prevented the drowning of the city, since its levees were designed to protect against a Category 3 storm, and the levees that failed were already completed projects. Strock has also said that the marsh-restoration project would not have done much to diminish Katrina's storm surge, which passed east of the coastal wetlands.
"The project manager for the Great Pyramids probably put in a request for 100 million shekels and only got 50 million," said John Paul Woodley Jr., the Bush administration official overseeing the Corps. "Flood protection is always a work in progress; on any given day, if you ask whether any community has all the protection it needs, the answer is almost always: Maybe, but maybe not."
The Corps had been studying the possibility of upgrading the New Orleans levees for a higher level of protection before Katrina hit, but Woodley said that study would not have been finished for years. Still, liberal bloggers, Democratic politicians and some GOP defenders of the Corps have linked the catastrophe to the underfunding of the agency.
"We've been hollering about funding for years, but everyone would say: There goes Louisiana again, asking for more money," said former Democratic senator John Breaux. "We've had some powerful people in powerful places, but we never got what we needed."
That may be true. But those powerful people -- including former senators Breaux, Johnston and Russell Long, as well as former House committee chairmen Robert Livingston and W.J. "Billy" Tauzin -- did get quite a bit of what they wanted. And the current delegation -- led by Landrieu and GOP Sen. David Vitter -- has continued that tradition.
The Senate's latest budget bill for the Corps included 107 Louisiana projects worth $596 million, including $15 million for the Industrial Canal lock, for which the Bush administration had proposed no funding. Landrieu said the bill would "accelerate our flood control, navigation and coastal protection programs." Vitter said he was "grateful that my colleagues on the Appropriations Committee were persuaded of the importance of these projects."
Louisiana not only leads the nation in overall Corps funding, it places second in new construction -- just behind Florida, home of an $8 billion project to restore the Everglades. Several controversial projects were improvements for the Port of New Orleans, an economic linchpin at the mouth of the Mississippi. There were also several efforts to deepen channel for oil and gas tankers, a priority for petroleum companies that drill in the Gulf of Mexico.
"We thought all the projects were important -- not just levees," Breaux said. "Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but navigation projects were critical to our economic survival."
Overall, Army Corps funding has remained relatively constant for decades, despite the "Program Growth Initiative" launched by agency generals in 1999 without telling their civilian bosses in the Clinton administration. The Bush administration has proposed cuts in the Corps budget, and has tried to shift the agency's emphasis from new construction to overdue maintenance. But most of those proposals have died quietly on Capitol Hill, and the administration has not fought too hard to revive them.
In fact, more than any other federal agency, the Corps is controlled by Congress; its $4.7 billion civil works budget consists almost entirely of "earmarks" inserted by individual legislators. The Corps must determine that the economic benefits of its projects exceed the costs, but marginal projects such as the Port of Iberia deepening -- which squeaked by with a 1.03 benefit-cost ratio -- are as eligible for funding as the New Orleans levees.
"It has been explicit national policy not to set priorities, but instead to build any flood control or barge project if the Corps decides the benefits exceed the costs by 1 cent," said Tim Searchinger, a senior attorney at Environmental Defense. "Saving New Orleans gets no more emphasis than draining wetlands to grow corn and soybeans." |
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Here's what it comes down to, Nagin is an incompetent mayor. You're talking about a guy who led the city with the highest crime rate in the nation, with nearly twenty times the national average. He's led a junk economy, a quarter of his populace was unemployed. I really don't get it. Why would he be re-electe? He ran a lot New Orleans down into a giant slum. Now he's complaning, because the Feds were a couple hours late cleaning his mess up. And the feds wouldn't have needed to be in there that few hours quicker, if Blanco would've had more than 6000 guardsmen ready.
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My discoveries made today:
-There were more than one THOUSAND busses ready.
-An absolute idiot shut down a key bridge, preventing people from leaving out of one exit. (I think it was the neighboring city.)
-A nursing home in New Orleans--a NURSING HOME--was not evacuated, the people saved. This caused the deaths of almost EVERYONE there. The city government could have sped them away in ambulences, the busses, etc, but chose NOT to! That's sickening and ridiculous.
-In an e-mail to Rush Limbaugh by his friends that live and own a business in the city, the spokesman for the police there committed suicide because when he returned from relief efforts he found that his wife and children were RAPED and MURDERED.
-The e-mail also said that hospitals were consistently broken into, their drugs stolen and nurses raped. And WHAT did the local and state governments do about it? Absolutely NOTHING.
There's more that I learned as well, if I can remember it, and if so, I'll post it here.
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You know what's also disgusting? How many black liberals, such as Jessie Jackson, Barack Obama, and others, are saying that Bush didn't respond due to RACISM. My gosh, RACISM? Why are they ALWAYS playing the race card? And then is the BLACK mayor of New Orleans, Nagin, RACIST? Huh? He had over a thousand busses and more resources at hand and did not use them, so is he not racist? Dispicable, hypocritical, and just...ugh.
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So, we were at MR PAPERBACK tonight. Walked by the magazine rack. At least 4 of them had this title, "Who's fault was it?", and they all had the president's face on the cover, (Chris pointed this out). If that's not a "suggestion", I don't know what is. Even if on the inside it totally says that Bush wasn't at fault at all, people are going to remember seeing his face w/ the word fault, and associate them.
But yay President Bush, if you can make something like Katrina happen, that'd be perfect to use on our enemies. Or something.
Americans are sooooooooo sad, finger pointing before the people are even all rescued.
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^I coulndt help but notice it. It upset me greatly to see that
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It's so sad that such politicization over a tragic event can occur, especially so soon after...
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I don't like the way the magazines set the story up cause it pointing it out at Bush. People just need to grow up. If I am misunderstanding things then I apologize ahead of time. So people are blaming Katrina on Bush? That is so crazy. It is nature. I am confused here. People pointing the finger, not nice. Have they heard it is not nice to point lol. 
I can understand about the relief effort was bit not organize maybe. I wouldn't know, never been in a hurricane. I just pray for the people.
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| Quote: | Bush Takes Responsibility for Blunders
New FEMA Chief Cites Finding Homes as Priority
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, AP
WASHINGTON (Sept. 13) - President Bush said Tuesday that "I take responsibility" for failures in dealing with Hurricane Katrina and said the disaster raised broader questions about the government's ability to respond to natural disasters as well as terror attacks.
"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government," Bush said at joint White House news conference with the president of Iraq.
"To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said.
The president was asked whether people should be worried about the government's ability to handle another terrorist attack given failures in responding to Katrina.
"Are we capable of dealing with a severe attack? That's a very important question and it's in the national interest that we find out what went on so we can better respond," Bush replied.
He said he wanted to know both what went wrong and what went right.
As for blunders in the federal response, "I'm not going to defend the process going in," Bush said. "I am going to defend the people saving lives."
He praised relief workers at all levels. "I want people in America to understand how hard people worked to save lives down there," he said.
Bush spoke after R. David Paulison, the new acting director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, pledged to intensify efforts to find more permanent housing for the tens of thousands of Hurricane Katrina survivors now in shelters.
It was the closest Bush has come to publicly finding fault with any federal officials involved in the hurricane response, which has been widely criticized as disjointed and slow. Some federal officials have sought to fault state and local officials for being unprepared to cope with the disaster.
Bush planned to address the nation Thursday evening from Louisiana, where he will be monitoring recovery efforts, the White House announced earlier Tuesday.
Paulison, in his first public comments since taking the job on Monday, told reporters: "We're going to get those people out of the shelters, and we're going to move and get them the help they need."
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff introduced Paulison as the Bush administration tried to deflect criticism for the sluggish initial federal response to the hurricane and its disastrous aftermath.
Chertoff said that while cleanup, relief and reconstruction from Katrina is now the government's top priority, the administration would not let down its guard on other potential dangers.
"The world is not going to stop moving because we are very focused on Katrina," Chertoff said.
Paulison, named to the post on Monday, said he was busy "getting brought up to speed."
He replaced Michael Brown, who resigned on Monday, three days after being removed from being the top onsite federal official in charge of the government's response.
Paulison said Bush called him Monday night and "thanked me for coming on board."
Bush promised that he would have "the full support of the federal government," Paulison said.
Chertoff said the relief operation had entered a new phase.
Initially, he said, the most important priority was evacuating people, getting them to safety, providing food, water and medical care.
" And then ultimately at the end of the day, we have to reconstitute the communities that have been devastated," Chertoff added.
He said the federal government would look increasingly to state and local officials for guidance on rebuilding the devastated communities along the Gulf Coast.
"The federal government can't drive permanent solutions down the throats of state and local officials," Chertoff said. "I don't think anyone should envision a situation in which they're going to take a back seat. They're going to take a front seat," he said.
Chertoff said that teams of federal auditors were being dispatched to the stricken areas to make sure that billions of dollars worth of government contracts were being properly spent. "We want to get aid to people who need it quickly, but we also don't want to lose sight of the importance of preserving the integrity of the process and our responsibility as stewards of the public money," Chertoff said.
"We're going to cut through red tape," he said, "but we're not going to cut through laws and rules that govern ethics."
Meanwhile, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said that some military aircraft and other equipment may be able to move out of the Gulf Coast soon.
"We've got to the point where most if not all of the search and rescue is completed," said Rumsfeld, who is attending a NATO meeting in Berlin. "Some helicopters can undoubtedly be moved out over the period ahead."
He also said there is a very large surplus of hospital beds in the region, so those could also be decreased. The USS Comfort hospital ship arrived near the Mississippi coast late last week. Rumsfeld added that nothing will be moved out of the area without the authorization of the two states' governors, the military leaders there and the president.
Elsewhere, workers with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention aren't finding many sick people, even though the specter of diseases has alarmed relief and rescue figures. Instead, between 40 and 50 percent of patients seeking emergency care have injuries. The CDC has counted 148 injuries in just the last two days, Carol Rubin, an agency hurricane relief specialist, said by telephone from the government's new public health headquarters in New Orleans' Kindred Hospital.
While she couldn't provide a breakdown, Rubin said chain saw injuries and carbon monoxide exposure from generators are among them. Those are particularly worrisome because they're likely to become more common as additional hurricane survivors re-enter the city in coming days, she said.
The message: Those injuries are preventable, if people take proper precautions, Rubin stressed.
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My respect for the President has just been elevated greatly by this.
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| Theresa wrote: | | My respect for the President has just been elevated greatly by this. |
Mine has, too.
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*faints* *gets up* Well done Bushy (compliment before anyone yells)
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I think it's good that he took responsability for the federal reaction. But of course, here, the federal reaction isn't everything. I still think that it was more the fault of the local and state governments than the federal government, although it did not do its duty as well as it should.
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This was a very gracious thing for the president to do.
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I just saw pictures of the thousands of busses that were not used. It's ATROCIOUS how the busses weren't use. Also, SOMEBODY wouldn't let Amtrak into the city, and no matter who it was that didn't allow them through, that's wrong.
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You know, I read this through a friends journal and hoped that it was fake.
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Stop The Bop' To Raise Katrina $$
McSHERRYSTOWN, Pa., Sept. 13, 2005
Schools across the country are pitching in to raise money for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
While there are lemonade stands and bake sales from Connecticut to California, some schools are finding more creative vehicles.
Delone Catholic High School in McSherrystown, Pa., has a fun fundraising program called "Stop the Bop."
Suggested by a few members of the student council, the school is playing Hanson's 1996 hit "MMMBop" through the loudspeakers before classes begin, between periods and during lunch. The idea? Annoy students into donating; have them pay to stop the music.
The goal is $3,000, which could be reached if each of the 659 students donates $5.
"MMMBop" has been playing since Wednesday, and the school has raised about $2,300 so far.
Student Council President Meredith Cox and Vice President Maria Landi, both of whom are seniors, came up with the idea.
With the song playing in the background, Landi told The Early Show co-anchor Hannah Storm, "It's pretty annoying. I'm getting kind of sick of it. But we're doing it for a good cause."
The school's principal, Dr. Maureen Thiec, says that when the students approached her with the idea, "I thought, 'Oh, my goodness, the teachers are going to kill me.' But we're making it!"
She says that some of those teachers "have given very generously."
"Kids have said, 'If I give you a blank check, will you stop this music?' " Cox says. "People are just, like, some people give twenties. You say, 'Thank you very much.' They say, 'No, we just want it to end. Even though it's for a good cause, we just want it to end.' It's rather funny."
Thiec says the school's receptionist is in charge of the music. "She'll be ever so grateful if she doesn't have to do it anymore," Thiec says.
"We wanted a new, creative way to make money, not just put buckets in classrooms and say, 'Please give us donations,' " Cox says. "So, this is just a different way of getting money out of people. � It has worked thus far: a school of 600 being able to get $2,300 so far. It's working."
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Now I'm all for raising money, but that's just sick. it's a mini version of extortion. "Donate the money, or we'll keep playing this."
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Agreed. That is ENTIRELY wrong. There are other ways to raise money than that! At my sister's school's annual school barbecue, for instance, they decided to make certain aspects of it dedicated to raising money for Katrina. THAT'S the way to go--not this blank check thing that, who knows, could lead to people misuising the checks.
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That IS wrong. People need to realize that there are better ways of doing this than that.
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Wow....c'mon guys. Its not that big of a deal. Its more of a joke, you're making it out to be this huge travesty. "Play music!? Sick!"
I finally saw my house yesterday and the condition of the city I grew up in. We're going to need that money. Through any means.... 
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Yeah, I kind of found it amusing. I mean, if it really became an issue, they'd shut it off.
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| Founder wrote: | Wow....c'mon guys. Its not that big of a deal. Its more of a joke, you're making it out to be this huge travesty. "Play music!? Sick!"
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Yeah It sounded funny at first but... terrible I feel bad for those kids.
And I'm sorry to hear about your house Andy. I've donated at least 20$to the Red Cross funds now.
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And I, too, am sorry about the condition of your home, Founder. I would like to say that my English teacher did what she called the "Grandma Fund," and for her mom's Birthday raised, in her mother's name, money from her 5 classes and made a deal that she would match all the money that her classes contributed. Through that, her 5 classes alone contributed over a THOUSAND dollars, not to mention that my entire school has been doing fundraisers...
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When I get a check, Im donating to the red cross. Andy, sorry to hear of your home.
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| Founder wrote: | Wow....c'mon guys. Its not that big of a deal. Its more of a joke, you're making it out to be this huge travesty. "Play music!? Sick!"
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I would have just laughed it off myself, but look at it this way. You hear it after every class, you hear it throughout lunch and before class begins, over and over and over again for lets say a few weeks. The same song over and over again.
If it was different music every so often, that would be alright. My Highschool did stuff like that during holidays. But MmmBop over and over again. It would wear down anyone.
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