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CJ Cregg
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 Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:16 pm The subtext of Liberalism? |
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| Quote: | You're listening to the character Kramer from Seinfeld in a tirade at a comedy club Friday night that set off a shockwave across America. This is not a Mel Gibson situation. It's -- I don't think he can use Mel's defense that it was the liquor talking. This is, to me, from the gut.
This is an interesting story, but this is what the subtext of liberalism really is. Under the surface, if you got them in a room alone, I guarantee you they'd say the same kind of hateful things about Catholics and about Jews and about straights and about soldiers.
Kerry gave us a smaller version of it, by the way. Kerry did it in an albeit high-class way, but John Kerry did the same thing, in my opinion.
As said by Michael Savage
http://mediamatters.org/items/200611220003 |
Does anyone actually listen to this guy? He is insane! INSANE!
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:27 pm |
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I do, on occassion, purely because he's entertaining. There's at least one individual here who really likes Michael Savage a lot as well.
I think that how he and Rush Limbaugh are taking this story is just the most idiotic thing. Here's what I just PMed to another here at STV:
| Republican_Man wrote: | He said yesterday that Richards was attacking Bush when he said in the Letterman interview
| Quote: | | There's a great deal disturbance in this country and how blacks feel about what happened in Katrina -- and for this to happen, for me to be in a comedy club and flip out and say this crap, you know, I'm deeply sorry -- and I'll get to the force field of this hostility, why it's there, why the rage is in any of us? Why the trash takes place, whether or not it's between me and a couple of hecklers in the audience or between this country and another nation. |
Did I, as a conservative who believes in Iraq and believes that Bush was at less fault for Katrina than the more local and state governments (let's not bring this to a debate over that, though), take that interpretation when I saw that interview? Not a chance in hell.
Rush has politicized this and is using it for his own gain. He's right in that link when he says that there's a double standard between this and his Donavon McNabb comments, in which a lot of those who have forgiven Richards did not forgive Rush, and even with his apology over Michael J. Fox, but he's again gone and made something like this not only personal for him, but political when that wasn't the intent of what he said.
It's ridiculous and I can't believe I listened to the whole segment.
I also hate him saying that it's liberals who are forgiving him. That is clearly rooted from the fact that he wasn't forgiven by them for McNabb or Fox, but nonetheless, I'm no liberal, and what I saw on Letterman really made me feel that he was sincerely sorry.
Anyways, that ends my rant on Limbaugh.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112106/content/rush_is_right.guest.html
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And what Savage said there? Vile.
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| Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:31 pm |
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It's vile? So you're saying that if you were to hypothetically put two hardcore Liberals in a room and have them discuss politics, they would not complain about how the evil Christian fundementalists are taking over America? How those damn evil WASPS are the source of so many problems?
I think you two need to get out more. 
I don't agree that it's just a liberal thing, but he is right that Liberals say some rather nasty, hateful, and concieted things when they're alone or not alone at times. Just like conservatives do as well.
John Kerry did make a stupid joke, that thankfully will stay with him for a while.
As for this Michael Richards thing, I don't think he's racist, just really stupid and he can kiss his career good-bye after this. Apology or no.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:37 pm |
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True, Founder. The problem with Savage there is that he was generalizing to such an extent. That's what makes it vile. Otherwise, he does have points.
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