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Dracojastin
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PostFri Jul 07, 2006 4:51 pm    DeltaFlyer vs Jem'Hadar

Well i was a little bored and found these two ship images on the net.. (credits to the one who made them(Don't know who))
And i thought well i'm gonna make a nice new background in photoshop for myself...

Hope you can enjoy it....


Click to enlarge to 1240 x 1024



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Captain Patrick
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PostFri Jul 07, 2006 6:29 pm    

Thanks you for adding credits, now i don't have to tell him and looks good now, did you make the sun and nebula in PS?

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Dracojastin
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PostFri Jul 07, 2006 6:31 pm    

No problem...

Yes i made both in photoshop with some cloud, spherize and color dodge effects and ofcourse an outer glow on the sun as you can see...


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Captain Patrick
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PostFri Jul 07, 2006 6:33 pm    

cool my only nitpick now is that the lighting is off big time you have blue on the bug and white on the delta when both should be orange and the light is comeing from the wrong direction.

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Dracojastin
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PostFri Jul 07, 2006 6:39 pm    

Only on the left side at the jem'hadar ship as of this angle i think the DF's back is towards the nebula and the otherside is a little orange... Maybe to little seeing it on this screen ( i work on 2 screens but made it on a screen with a higher brightness) But i've put an orange "glow" on both ships left side from our point of view

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Captain Patrick
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PostFri Jul 07, 2006 6:42 pm    

Dracojastin wrote:
Only on the left side at the jem'hadar ship as of this angle i think the DF's back is towards the nebula and the otherside is a little orange... Maybe to little seeing it on this screen ( i work on 2 screens but made it on a screen with a higher brightness) But i've put an orange "glow" on both ships left side from our point of view


Oh k now i kinda see some organe so i guess good job


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Hathaway
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PostSat Jul 08, 2006 7:05 am    

I would echo what Patrick has said and perhaps alter the lighting on the left side of both ships. They seem a bright when facing away from the main source of light in the image (though I guess there could be others, but it's easier on the eye not to confuse the brain lol).
I really like the effects you've done for both the nebula and the star. From a purely personal perspective, what you could do is lose all the background stars (they would likely not be seen through the intense glare from the sun so close), create some haze which would then allow you to drop in some shadows created by the two ships. What I tend to do is create a new layer for the haze, overlayed as Linear Dodge (but each to their own) and paint in with a huge brush the colour tone of the star. Then with the eraser, take away some of that haze (try different setting of the erase till you're happy) to create the look of light being interrupted by the ships.

One last thing to consider. I'm assuming the purple mass is a Jem'Hadar torpedo fired from the enemy ship? If so, I would see about altering the angle of the Jem'Hadar ship so it is more in line with either the forward or aft torpedo launcher.

This is all advice to take or leave of course, but I think you've made an excellent start. Personally I feel the tweaking part is always the best


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Dracojastin
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PostSat Jul 08, 2006 9:08 am    

Thanks to both for the feedback...

I will play more with a new one i will create soon...
About the stars i must say your right... so i'll fix it next time...
The light on both ships looked good on my other screen as for the Jem'Hadar ship the left side is indeed not good...
As for the angle of it... Well it's from a screenshot and the angle was different already so i had to change it but if i changed it more the ship would loose it's from.. The torpedo seemed reasonable to me cause torpedo's can be fired in an angle. As i saw on DS9... But i know it would look nicer if it would be more in a kind of line....

Again thanks for the feedback hope to learn more about those details from you and captain patrick...


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