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StarfleetCommand74656
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 Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:55 pm Waking Moments: Plothole Alert |
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When the alien says to Chak., to go to a planet alightyear away or something, and he wakes up and tells Janeway to do it. She does, but then he finds out that all along he's been still dreaming. In that case, the actual Janeay never moved Voyager to the planet where the sleep influence was strongest- am I making sense here?
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Defiant
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| Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:30 pm |
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...not really. 
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Leo Wyatt
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| Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:47 pm |
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I think I know what you are talking about. Aliens that live by dreaming or something. So, they make the crew have nightmares when they feel threathened.
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Untitled
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| Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:59 pm |
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maybe the doc did it.
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Voyager2004
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| Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:18 am |
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No, because, that's when the Doc came and woke him up, and Doc said "That he had to use a stronger dose" or something. So, Chakotay moved the ship by himself.
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TrekkieMage
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| Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:05 pm |
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I believe the point of the episode was to confuse the viewer a little bit, so I wouldn't be surprised if there appeared to be a plothole, but wasn't. And if there was, well, Star Trek isn't exactly known for it's continuity
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Sevensquare
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| Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:14 pm |
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I think you make sense , but you only have part of the story. It's all centered around Chakotay. He enter's his experimental sleep with his visual cue and with the doctor's help. He talks to the alien and then uses his visual cue and thinks he wakes-up. Actually he is still asleep and they travel off to the sleep boundary 1 lt. yr. away and they are tricked and the ship is attacked and taken over by the aliens, but Chakotay sees the image of that same moon again so he try's his visual cue a second time and this time actually awakes with the help of the doctor. He discover's the entire crew fell asleep after he entered his experimental sleep and there's only him and the doctor. Him and the doctor find the planet with the neurogenic field. In the meantime though Chakotay makes a mistake and dozes off, but he sees the image of the moon and uses his visual cue and wakes-up with the help of the doctor. Just in time to beam down to the planet.
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