Most evil person of all time (PG-13 for violent stories)

[lionhead]

i don't even know if i already made this Poll on this forum. well then its a revisit. Aslo thougt it would be nice for new members then.

I noticed that most people see Adolf Hitler as the most evil eprson everl ived, but hardly anybody knows what kind of sick people have actually walked this earth....
This topci is dedicated too Evil. Evil not in ways of action, but i ways of thinking.

Sure, adolf hirlet is responsible for millions of deaths, but his mind is whats at stanke here. For fairness sake i've taken out people like Adolf Hitler since their popularity can influence your opinion on him, same thing with Stalin, Julius Ceasar, Gengis khan etc. Also no "Other" option. I just selected my own group of Evil people throughout history which i think come very high in the rankings too begin with. I have done a lot of research on many individuals and choosen these too be in the finale.

I also specificly choose at least one person of every "Catagory" of evil. For example Murderers, rapists, extremists and monsters.

For the people who do not know some of these poeple here are their stories:

Gilles de rais, AKA the Pious killer was a french war hero in the 15th century, he fought along side joan of arc, in his later years he turned his lust to murder and torture, he enjoyed moslty to kill young boys which he sodomized before and after killing them. And when he wasn't feeling for the task he liked seeing his servants butcher the children, becasue he was a baron none took note of them issing childeren around his castle.

One of the most powerful men in France, Gilles de Rais was ill-equipped to deal with the awesome right which society had given him. Raised by an equally powerful and even more politically astute grandfather whose main reason for taking on his ward was to increase his own land holdings, Gilles lacked the necessary moral fortitude to rein in his passions and exhibited a political naivet� that would ultimately contribute to his downfall.

Gilles confessed (under threat of torture) to being a pedophile and homosexual in a time when either of these two activities could result in the forfeiture of life and property. He was a spendthrift who managed to bring his family to the brink of financial ruin in pursuit of his hedonism. Gilles de Rais was a kingmaker and fearless, cunning soldier whose exploits saved France from utter defeat in the Hundred Years War. However, that same drive led him to murder young boys in search of sexual thrills and to practice black magic in the quest of more wealth to continue his outrageous lifestyle.

It ended when the duke of brittainy dug up remains of 50 boys in his castle, he confessed to 150 killing but it is bleieved that it was over 300, he was burned and hanged in 1440 and his servants burned alive.

source: the crime library


Idi Amin, Idi Amin Dada Oumee (born in 1924 in Uganda) was the military officer and president (1971-79) of Uganda. Shortly after taking power, however, Amin established "killer squads" to hunt down and murder Obote's supporters as well as much of the intelligentsia, whom he distrusted. Military leaders who had not supported the coup were executed, many by beheading. In October 1978 Amin ordered the invasion of Tanzania while at the same time attempting to cover up an army mutiny. With help of Libyan troops, Amin tried to annex the northern Tanzanian province of Kagera. Tanzania, under President Julius Nyerere, began a counter attack, enlisting the country's population of Ugandan exiles. On 11 April 1979, Amin was forced to quit the capital, Kampala. The Tanzanian army took the city with the help of the Ugandan and Rwandan guerrillas. Amin had strong links to the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO). The Israeli embassy was offered to them as headquarters; and Flight 139, the Air France A-300B Airbus hijacked from Athens on June 27, 1976, was invited by Amin to stop at Entebbe International Airport in the city of Entebbe, 32 km from Kampala. The hijackers demanded the release of 53 PLO and RAF prisoners in return for the 256 hostages, and were assisted by Amin's troops.

source: Wikipedia


Pedro Alonzo Lopez, Born in Tolima, Colombia, in 1949 Pedro Lopez became notorious as the Monster of the Andes. According to Lopez, his prostitute mother kicked him out of their home at age eight for fondling his younger sister. He was then picked up by a pedophile and was sodomized. He was taken in by an American family, but later ran away with a teacher from his school. When he was eighteen he was gang-raped in prison and retaliated by killing three of his assailants.
Upon his release he started killing young girls with glee and impunity. By 1978 he claimed to have killed more than 100 girls in Peru. After a brush with an angry village mob he moved his activities to Colombia and then Ecuador where his bloodlust averaged about three kills a week. He found killing Ecuadorian girls enjoyable because they were "more gentle and trusting, more innocent." Authorities attributed the rash of disappearing girls to active slavery or prostitution rings in the area.

In 1980 a flash flood uncovered the first of his victims in Ecuador. When he was arrested he told his interrogators the frightening tale of his reign of death. At first authorities were skeptical but all doubts disappeared when he quickly produced more than fifty graves. It is widely believed that three hundred is a low estimate

Source: wikipedia


Tom�s De Torquemada, Tom�s de Torquemada (1420 - September 16, 1498) was a fifteenth century Spanish Dominican, and an Inquisitor General. Famously described by the Spanish chronicler, Sebasti�n de Olmedo, as "the hammer of heretics, the light of Spain, the saviour of his country, the honour of his order".

He was born in 1420 in the village of Torquemada (Latin turris cremata, "burnt tower") near the northern Spanish city of Valladolid, and may have had Jewish ancestry: the contemporary historian Hernando del Pulgar, writing of Torquemada's uncle Juan de Torquemada, said that his ancestor Alvar Fern�ndez de Torquemada had married a first-generation Jewish convert. After distinguished service as a monk and scholar, Torquemada grew close to the rulers�Ferdinand and Isabella�of the newly created kingdom of Spain, and was appointed Inquisitor General in 1482. The extension of his power over the whole of Spain was assisted by the murder of the Inquisitor Pedro de Arbu�s in Zaragoza in 1485, attributed to a band of heretics and Jews, and by the alleged ritual murder of the so-called Santo Ni�o de La Guardia or Holy Child of La Guardia in 1491, which was again attributed to Jews. In 1492 he was one of the chief supporters of the mass expulsion of Jews from Spain. Many believe that he and the Spanish Inquisition generally were responsible for injustice and suffering in their use of torture, anonymous denunciation, and execution by fire in the so-called auto de fe, or "act of faith."

In the fifteen years of his reign the Spanish Inquisition grew from the single tribunal at Seville to a network of two dozen 'Holy Offices'." (Longhurst) The Inquisition touched every individual in Spain with a thoroughness scarcely equalled before the 20th century. Every Christian soul over the age of twelve (for girls) and fourteen (for boys) was fully accountable to the Inquisition. Heretics and Conversos were the primary targets, but anyone who spoke against the Inquisition was under suspicion

Source: Wikipedia


Ted Bundy, Theodore Robert Bundy was born on November 24, 1946 to Louise Cowell following her stay of three months at the Elizabeth Lund Home for Unwed Mothers in Vermont. He began to kill. While some Bundy experts, including former King County detective Bob Keppel, believe Ted may have started in his early to mid-teens, the earliest verified murders began in 1974, when he was 27. From January to June he stalked and killed approximately one young woman a month, a spree that culminated in July with the double daytime abduction murders of two females at a lakeside park near Seattle. He murdered approximately ten victims in Oregon, Utah and Washington.

Theodore Robert Bundy faced two murder trials, both spaced within three years. His first trial date was set for June 25, 1979, in Miami, Florida. The court case centered on the brutal attacks on the Chi Omega sorority sisters. The second trial was to take place in January 1980 in Orlando, Florida, where Ted was to be tried for the murder of Kimberly Leach. At 7:06 AM on January 24, 1989, Theodore Robert Bundy was put to death by the State of Florida, by electrocution. The death warrant was for the Lake City murder

Source: Crime library and Wikipedia

Adolph Eichmann, Born in the city of Solingen, Germany, Adolf Eichmann was the son of a moderately successful businessman and industrialist. On the advice of old family friend Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Eichmann joined the Austrian branch of the SS, enlisting on April 1, 1932, as an SS-Anw�rter. He was accepted as a full SS member that November, appointed an SS-Mann, and assigned the SS number 45326.
In 1933 when the Nazis came to power in Germany, Eichmann returned to that country and submitted an application to join the full time SS. Eichmann's office was expanded in late 1939 to cover the entirety of the German Reich, and Eichmann was transferred from the SD to the Gestapo in 1940. In 1942, Reinhard Heydrich invited Eichmann to attend the Wannsee Conference where Germany's anti-Jewish measures were set down into an official policy of genocide. To this "Final Solution of the Jewish Question" Eichmann was tasked as "Transportation Administrator", which put him in charge of all the trains which would carry Jews to the Death Camps of Poland. For the next two years, Eichmann performed his duties with incredible zeal, often bragging that he had personally sent over five million Jews to their deaths by way of his trains. Eichmann's work had been noticed, and in 1944, he was sent to Hungary after Germany had occupied that country in fear of a Soviet invasion. Eichmann at once went to work deporting Jews and was able to send four hundred thousand Hungarians to their deaths in the Nazi gas chambers

Source; wikipedia


H.H Holmes, Born Herman Webster Mudgett, Dr. Holmes started his criminal career as a medical student by stealing corpses from the University of Michigan. He used them to collect insurance money from policies taken out under fictitious names.
When he moved to Chicago he started a drugstore empire from which he made a fortune. He built a hundred-room mansion complete with gas chambers, trap doors, acid vats, lime pits, fake walls and secret entrances.

During the 1893 World's Fair he rented rooms to visitors. He killed most of his renters and continued his insurance fraud scheme. He also lured women to his "torture castle" with the promise of marriage. Instead, he would force them to sign over their savings. After he would throw them down an elevator shaft and gas them to death. In the basement of the castle he dismembered and skinned his prey and experimented with their corpses. When police grew suspicious about H.H's activities, he torched the castle and fled. In the burnt hulk of the building, authorities found the remains of over two hundred people. H.H. was caught and hanged on May 7, 1896, leaving behind an impressive trail of blood unequaled for almost eighty years. Three of the Pitezel children were also located. Alice and Nellie had been stuffed into a trunk and gassed. Their brother Howard was poisoned, burned, dismembered then buried.

Source: http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/serialkillers/holmes.htm


Vlad Tepes, was the real life dracula he was fan over various kinds of torture, he impaled, boiled, hang thousands while eating with the the dead, he implaed an intire city of 20,000 men, women and children. One time he invited all beggars and poor people to his castle and gave them a big feast, after the people ate and drank he orderd the room to be sealed up and burned them alive. He was greatly disliked, but the buffer zone between Central Europe and the Ottoman Empire made Vlad a crucial player in the defense of Christendom. At times, he and his army would pass over the frozen Danube and invade Ottoman territory (mainly in present-day Bulgaria) and cause great mayhem. In one of his invasions, he is supposedly to have killed more than 20,000 Turks. The most notorious picture of Vlad is a woodblock print from one of these pamphlets depicting Vlad eating his dinner on a grassy hill surrounded by a forest of dead Turks. True to his name, most of the victims were impaled. The pamphlets also claim that to massacre more victims at once, he would herd captured Turks over cliffsides onto beds of spikes below. From these victims he was able to create an infamous "forest of the impaled" surrounding his capital to dissuade any attacking army from invading.

Other examples of his notoriety abound in other European records of history and folklore. On one occasion Vlad is supposed to have invited many beggars to his castle, then burnt it to the ground, killing them all, so that nobody would be poor in his kingdom. On a kinder note, another story tells that Vlad placed a golden cup at a well-travelled spring so travelers could drink. Not once during his entire reign was the cup ever stolen. The legend also says that the very day people saw the cup missing they knew that Vlad was gone. It became widely known that Wallachian justice was harsh and Vlad had many criminals impaled, regardless of their crimes. In another anecdote, two wandering monks arrived in Targoviste and saw for themselves the draconian punishments implemented by Vlad. When summoned to his castle, Vlad asked them what they thought of his rule. One monk commended him for keeping law and order in the kingdom, while another harshly denounced Vlad as the Devil because of his cruelty. Although it is not truly known which of the monks was ordered impaled, supposedly, Vlad ordered the first monk impaled, seeing through his cowardly lies, and commended and rewarded the second for his honesty.

Source: wikipedia.



Thats it, i don't ant too givem ore, you decide on your own now and respond. I voted Tomas de Torquemada

[Seven of Nine]

Personally, I think one of the most evil men was Harold Shipman:

Harold Frederick Shipman, known as Fred Shipman to his family (January 14, 1946 � January 13, 2004) was a British general practitioner who was the most prolific known serial killer in British history (and possibly the world).

He killed around 250 patients from the 1970s to 1998, in Hyde, mainly elderly women who lived alone and were otherwise in good health. He was eventually caught after he ineptly forged a new will for one of his victims. He was convicted on 15 sample charges in 2000 and sentenced to life imprisonment. He committed suicide in 2004 at HMP Wakefield, without admitting or explaining his crimes.

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[zero]

I voted H.H Holmes.


I think it's disgusting how he created chambors for different torture acts. It's pretty sick when someone uses people as labrats that is preeeety twisted.

I also find the fact that he would skin the people and experiment on them afterwards very disturbing.

It's hard to chose between all of these people, I think Vlad Tepes is up there too. How can someone eat dinner with dead people everywhere knowing you are responsable for their deaths. Oh my ... my tummy is starting to react to all of this.

Great topic btw!

[lionhead]

thnaks zero.

I knew i should have added more people...

[zero]

No that was enough for me!

I bought my mom a book from Barnes & Noble about the most evil women.

Now THAT ... was very interesting.

[Puck]

I think once we get to a certain point, you just get into people with absolutely no soul or conscience, and I don't think you can pick a 'most evil'. Once you go that far, they are just all lumped into a group of pyschopathic perverts who have no ounce of humanity in them. There have been so manyof these people throughout history. From Nero, who used burning people in his garden as a source of lighting, to Hitler, whom we all know about. Then you have people just withing the past years like this "BTK (bind, torture, kill)" guy, that they just recently caught. He would bind, then he would taunt his victims, etc... and finally either suffocate them or strangle them, usually going on to fulfill his personal fantasies. He didn't even see them as 'people', but referred to his victims as projects. Even though he only killed about 10 people, I don't think it is the number that makes them 'more evil'; I consider him to be just as evil as Hitler, Nero, and these other people that yall have mentioned.

[zero]

^ I totally agree with you. Those two I stated affected me the most almost to the point to where I couldn't read what they had done anymore. And the sickest part of it all is you can't even tell who these people are. They look so normal and then you learn what they truley are ... I feel so uggghh ... I don't even know how to explain it!

[Puck]

I know that we all feel for the victims, and that that is indeed a natural response. However, I am curious if anyone feels in any way, a small amount of pity towards these evil people?

[zero]

I don't think I have pity for them persae. But I am very interested in their ways of thinking. I seriously wish there were a way I could find out what it is they think satesfies their urges to kill. I know they are mentally Ill. But do you think they realize they are? Or .. what goes through ttheir minds ... stuff like that is what interests me the most.

[lionhead]

None of the people who you can vote for deserve any compasion.

Harold shipman neighter of course.


I did have shipman in the same poll on another forum, but nobody voted for him.

i also had ed gein, Henry lee lucas and andrei chikatilo. But none where voting material. Interesting stories though. aslo, they where all serial kills and i already have Ted Bundy and H.H holmes. I don't want too much of one type. Harold shipman would have been a good choice(" kwakzalver").

[webtaz99]

Those guys were chumps compared to Sir Isaac Newton.

He came up with the mathematical tools which created debt, insurance, and gambling (in their modern roles). If you don't think insurance companies are one of the major evils in the modern world, you need more education.

[lionhead]

[LightningBoy]

I'd say Saddam Hussein.

When he wasn't feeding people into plastic grinders, he was gassing them. He raped, tortured, and killed thousands. I know he didn't kill as many people as some others, but he took pleasure of it, and rewatched these bloody executions on tape. He really belongs on the same list as the sickos above. He is what happens when someone like that takes control of a country.

[lionhead]

[LightningBoy]

No, he wasn't on the list, and yes the war does have a certain aire of insight to it, but the question was; who was the most evil? I gave my answer.

[lionhead]

its not an open question, its a poll. So if you please.

[LightningBoy]

"Who is the most evil person of all time in our opinion?" That IS an open ended question. I chose to write in my choice.

[webtaz99]

[Alucard]

I saw that they are all terrible, but the worst is Vlad to me.

[lionhead]

thanks for your vote mad_d0ggie.

At least someone knows how.

perhaps i will make another poll some time later, with other people in it. Like harold shipman, elizabeth bathory, ed gein, pol pot.

Or perhaps...Hm.

[Alucard]

maybe... I didn't know what any of those people did until now... They're terrible.

[lionhead]

I know, isn't it awfull? and believe me, there are a lot worse.

[Alucard]

I know there are... but why didn't anyone try and act against them for it?

[zero]

Hey you should make a poll for the most evil women. That would be really cool.

[Cathexis]

OPRAH WINFREY!

ha jk anyway..well Vlad ze Impaler (aka Vlad Tzepesh), wasn't exactly evil...he was just..war-hungry and out to avenge his father's death. Ted Bundy was perty sick...seeing as how he attempted to kidnap my friend's mother...NO JOKE either...although I'm not sure if I believe that story..

Ah and...Gilles? I would have to say him...definitely...but what about Jack the Ripper? He was perty evil.