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Beta6
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 Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:53 pm deaths reported in school shooting. |
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| Quote: | Deaths Reported in Minn. School Shooting
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RED LAKE, Minn. - As many as 14 people were injured and some killed in a shooting Monday at a Minnesota high school, authorities said. Tom Lyons, chief deputy for Beltrami County, said up to 14 people were injured in the mid-afternoon shooting at Red Lake High School in far northern Minnesota. Lyons said a suspect was in custody, but he had no other details.
The FBI (news - web sites) did not say how many people had been killed and also declined to release details.
Red Lake High School, on the Red Lake Indian Reservation, has about 300 students, according to its Web site.
Audrey Thayer, who lives in Bemidji and works as a researcher for the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites)'s Minnesota chapter, said the reservation was locked down by police with roadblocks.
"They have got it closed off," she said.
The reservation is about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities. It is home to the Red Lake Band of Chippewa Indians. |
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=2&u=/ap/20050321/ap_on_re_us/school_shooting
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Seven of Nine
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:00 pm |
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| Quote: | FBI: Some Dead in Minnesota School Shooting
Monday, March 21, 2005
RED LAKE, Minn. � Several people were shot, and some killed, on Monday at Red Lake High School (search), the FBI reported.
The FBI (search) didn't say how many people had been killed or wounded, and didn't release any other details.
Tom Lyons, chief deputy for Beltrami County, said as many as 14 people were injured in the shooting, which happened around 3 p.m. Lyons said a suspect was in custody, but he had no other details.
Four victims were being treated at North Country Regional Hospital in Bemidji (search), said Sherri Birkeland, the hospital's vice president of development and planning. She had no specific information on the victims or the shooting.
Other victims were expected at MeritCare Hospital in Fargo, N.D., said an administrator who declined to give her name.
The Red Lake Indian Reservation (search) is in far northern Minnesota, about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities.
Audrey Thayer, who lives in Bemidji and works as a researcher for the American Civil Liberties Union's Minneosta chapter, said the reservation was locked down by police with roadblocks. "They have got it closed off," she said.
It was the second major school shooting in Minnesota in recent years. In September 2003, two students were shot at Rocori High School in central Minnesota.
Aaron Rollins, 17, and Seth Bartell, 14, both died from their wounds � Rollins that day and Bartell 16 days later. Fellow student John Jason McLaughlin, 15 at the time of the shootings, awaits trial in the case.
The Red Lake Indian Reservation is in far northern Minnesota, about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities. |
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| Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:09 pm |
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| Quote: | MSNBC.com
8 deaths reported in Minnesota shootings
Up to 15 may be injured in incident at Indian reservation
The Associated Press
Updated: 8:00 p.m. ET March 21, 2005
RED LAKE, Minn. - A gunman opened fire Monday at a high school on an Indian reservation, killing six people and wounding two critically, with the suspect believed among those dead, authorities said.
Before the school shootings, a man and a woman were shot in their home and died later.
Six people died in the midafternoon shooting at Red Lake High School in far northern Minnesota, including four students. Also killed were a teacher and a security guard, FBI spokesman Paul McCabe said at a news conference in Minneapolis.
He declined to talk about a possible connection between the suspect and the couple killed at the home, but Red Lake Fire Director Roman Stateley said they were the grandparents of the shooter. Stateley told several media outlets that the grandfather was a police officer whose guns may have been used in the shootings.
All of the dead students were found in one room. One of them was a boy believed to be the shooter, McCabe said. He would not comment on reports that the boy shot himself and said it was too early to speculate on a motive.
Fourteen to 15 other students were injured, including two critically, McCabe said.
The school was evacuated after the shootings and locked down for investigation, McCabe said.
�It will probably take us throughout the night to really put the whole picture together,� he said.
Red Lake High School, on the Red Lake Indian Reservation, has about 300 students, according to its Web site.
The reservation is about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities. It is home to the Red Lake Band of Chippewa Indians.
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webtaz99
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| Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:59 pm |
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"Gun control" advocates take note: He used a POLICE WEAPON to commit this crime.
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Theresa
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| Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:09 pm |
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Yeah, noticed that irony myself.
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| Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:43 pm |
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| webtaz99 wrote: | | "Gun control" advocates take note: He used a POLICE WEAPON to commit this crime. |
Good point. But wow. HORRIFYING situation. Another Columbine.
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:45 am |
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| webtaz99 wrote: | | "Gun control" advocates take note: He used a POLICE WEAPON to commit this crime. |
And that makes a difference why, exactly? No sane person would ever think that any amount of gun control would eliminate gun violence. The idea is to minimize it.
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Seven of Nine
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| Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:29 am |
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| Quote: | Killer liked Hitler
Students recall warning signs
By AP
BEMIDJI, Minn. -- He created comic books with ghastly drawings of people shooting each other and wrote stories about zombies. He dressed in black, wore eyeliner and apparently admired Adolf Hitler and called himself the Angel of Death in German. His father committed suicide about four years ago, and his mother is in a nursing home after an auto accident, according to news reports.
On Monday, 16-year-old Jeff Weise went on a rampage, shooting to death his grandfather and the grandfather's companion, then invading his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation. Armed with two pistols and a shotgun, he killed nine people and wounded seven before shooting himself to death in America's bloodiest school shooting since Columbine High in Colorado six years ago.
Investigators are not sure exactly what set Weise off, but fellow students at Red Lake High said they saw what looked, in retrospect, like warning signs.
About a month ago, his sketch of a guitar-strumming skeleton accompanied by a caption that read "March to the death song 'til your boots fill with blood" was displayed in his English class, said classmate Parston Graves.
Graves, 16, said he was thinking about that picture yesterday. "I thought that was him letting everyone know" that he was going to do something, Graves said.
Weise, who routinely wore a long black trench coat, eyeliner and combat boots, has been described by several classmates as a quiet teenager. Some of them knew about his troubled childhood -- relatives told the St. Paul Pioneer Press his father had committed suicide and his mother suffered head injuries in an auto accident.
ANGEL OF DEATH
Audrey Thayer, a friend of the family, said Weise had been living with his 58-year-old grandfather, Daryl Lussier, and Lussier's 32-year-old companion, Michelle Sigana. Thayer said Weise had been teased at school, but she didn't think that set him off.
It appeared Weise may have posted messages on a neo-Nazi website expressing admiration for Hitler and calling himself "Todesengel," German for the Angel of Death.
Several notes signed by a Jeff Weise, who identified himself as "a Native American from the Red Lake 'Indian' Reservation," were posted beginning last year at a site operated by the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party. In one posting, he criticized interracial mixing on the reservation and slammed fellow Indian teens for listening to rap music.
Weise's Hotmail address links him to frequent postings on one Internet forum called Rise of the Dead, a site where contributors collaborate on stories about "average people attempting to survive in a zombie-infested world," according to the site.
"Last year they had to shut the school down because he made comments about killing people," said a community member who did not want to reveal her name.
"If people found out about this last time why didn't they do something." |
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Unfortunately, gun crime is on the rise here in the UK, but it's still not a very big issue. Why? Because of the lack of availability of guns. Even the average police don't carry them, because in most cases they're not needed. We have armed response teams, and the police in airports and other high-risk areas are armed, but your average Bobby down the street just doen't carry them. Gun control does work- but it's still not going to stop some gun crime.
However, back on topic:
This is a dreadful situation, where someone can be so indoctrinated with hate propaganda to feel it's necessary to kill so many innocent people (that's assuming the . I don't blame anyone but Jeff Weise for what he did, and what he did was evil, but also troubling. I doubt we'll ever know the reasons behind this, but I hope it never happens again.
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Starbuck
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| Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:41 pm |
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This is such a horrible crime, I mean, christ, if you don't like the idea of racial seperation, move to a ghetto, with a ghetto school.
| Quote: | ghet�to
n. pl. ghet�tos or ghet�toes
A section of a city occupied by an ethnic group who live there especially because of social, economic, or legal pressure |
/\ for all of you who thought otherwise of the word "ghetto"
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:07 pm |
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If you don't like the idea of racial seperation?
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Starbuck
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| Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:03 pm |
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My bad, if you DO like the idea....
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Zeke Zabertini
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| Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:04 pm |
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Okay, just checking.
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