| Who is the biggest international threat to peace and security? |
| Al Qaeda |
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10% |
[ 4 ] |
| Iran |
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7% |
[ 3 ] |
| Syria |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| North Korea |
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23% |
[ 9 ] |
| Israel |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Palestinians |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| The United States |
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48% |
[ 19 ] |
| The European Union |
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2% |
[ 1 ] |
| The United Nations |
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7% |
[ 3 ] |
| Libya |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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Puck
The Texan
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 Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:06 pm Biggest Threat? |
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Who do you think is the biggest threat to international peace and security? Why?
(I know there are alot of poll options....just put them there to remind you of any you may have forgotten otherwise    . )
Other options that it wouldn't let me list could beeee:
Pakistan
China
Cuba
Sudan
Suadi Arabia
Iraq
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Leo Wyatt
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:08 pm |
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Why u put United States? No offense. We are the good people in my opinion.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:08 pm |
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Well I agree, but some people may want to vote that way.
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Arellia
The Quiet One
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:10 pm |
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In the state it's in, I actually would say the U.N. and/or a proposed one-world-order. Even though I do see terrorists and many of the other options as a threat, I only see the U.N. as getting worse and further obstructing the cause of neutralizing our enemies.
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Republican_Man
STV's Premier Conservative
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:11 pm |
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I can't decide. We've got:
Al Qaeda
Iran
Syria
North Korea
The United Nations (somewhat)
I can't decide between them.
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CJ Cregg
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:41 pm |
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North Korea!!
The UN, US and EU are all good things
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Defiant
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:44 pm |
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I definetly voted for the United States. We go out on personal vendettas, and attack whoever we can make a good excuse to attack, and listen to no one. Thats one hell of a threat right there, a nation who responds to no one and does what it pleases. Definetly upsets the balance of power in the world.
And id like to hear peoples justifications/opinions/reasonings for voting for the United Nations.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:46 pm |
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Personal vendettas  ?
And you ask for other peoples reasoning....
Seriously, I know there are better arguements than that .
And is the United States the one out brandishing nukes as blackmail....?
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Defiant
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:48 pm |
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Yeah, so what if I ask for other peoples reasoning? I fail to see the point you are trying to make.
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Alucard
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:49 pm |
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I'm saying North Korea
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Founder
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:55 pm |
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Cuba! C'mon Pres. Bush! Attack it! Take out Castro. Ok ok ok. Cuba is definitly not the biggest threat, just wishful thinking on my part.
I can't decide betwee the corrupt UN or the hard to beat Terrorist. Hhhhmmmm.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:59 pm |
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Hmmm...let's see...the UN put Iraq in charge of humanitarian issues.... Anyone dumb enough to do that, but that has a major say in the world is kinda scary
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Defiant
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:09 pm |
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Considering we control Iraq now, that just means we control humaitarium stuff. Wow, so you just totally bashed on the US.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:20 pm |
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Don't pull this with me, you know I was talking about the period when Iraq was under Saddam's regime.
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Defiant
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:25 pm |
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No dude, I had no idea what you meant. Now I do.
And I feel that the only reason you dislike the UN is because you fancy the idea of the US being a super power, and unchallenged by anyone. The UN tries to keep us in check, and you dont like any challenges to our power. I think you need to consider the needs of other countries, and the need to unify for the good of everyone, not just the US.
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Founder
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:30 pm |
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Well if that were the case then I would agree. Except the UN doesn't just keep us in check they supress the US. The needs of the other nations come first and the needs of the US come whenever its ok with the other nations. Besides most of the World hates us. Do we really want to sit in a room and be dictated to by people who dispise us? Screw that.
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Puck
The Texan
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:36 pm |
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| Defiant wrote: | No dude, I had no idea what you meant. Now I do.
And I feel that the only reason you dislike the UN is because you fancy the idea of the US being a super power, and unchallenged by anyone. The UN tries to keep us in check, and you dont like any challenges to our power. I think you need to consider the needs of other countries, and the need to unify for the good of everyone, not just the US. |
Wow...didn't mean to sound that bitchy...sorry...we are having problems with the girlfriend tonight .
Anyhooow, the only problem I have with the UN is that parts of the organization are corrupt and that they seem worthless. I do see the US as a superpower, but I don't think it is something that we should use as an automatic slip to do whatever we please. That is my problem with Bush sometimes is that he seems to give off the impression that we are going to do whatever we want and if you don't agree...then f*** you. I mean we shouldn't have to please others, but I do think we need to be more careful about how we are seen by other countries.
Btw, I haven't voted yet, am still deciding .
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Defiant
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:40 pm |
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The rest of the world doesnt hate us! A good deal of the world may disagree with our actions, but that in no way leads to hatred.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:50 pm |
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| Exalya wrote: | | In the state it's in, I actually would say the U.N. and/or a proposed one-world-order. Even though I do see terrorists and many of the other options as a threat, I only see the U.N. as getting worse and further obstructing the cause of neutralizing our enemies. |
Excellent point.
| Defiant wrote: | I definetly voted for the United States. We go out on personal vendettas, and attack whoever we can make a good excuse to attack, and listen to no one. Thats one hell of a threat right there, a nation who responds to no one and does what it pleases. Definetly upsets the balance of power in the world.
And id like to hear peoples justifications/opinions/reasonings for voting for the United Nations. |
1. Bah! Personal vendettas. Whatever helps you sleep at night
2. Oil for Food (MAJOR knowledge, allowed it to slide by), screwed US, supported terrorists, has done little to no good in the past 20 years (Rowanda, Sudan, Oil for Food...)
| JanewayIsHott wrote: | Personal vendettas ?
And you ask for other peoples reasoning....
Seriously, I know there are better arguements than that .
And is the United States the one out brandishing nukes as blackmail....? |
Right.
| JanewayIsHott wrote: | Hmmm...let's see...the UN put Iraq in charge of humanitarian issues.... Anyone dumb enough to do that, but that has a major say in the world is kinda scary
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I know. It's now:
UN
North Korea
or Terrorists
| Defiant wrote: | | Considering we control Iraq now, that just means we control humaitarium stuff. Wow, so you just totally bashed on the US. |
Um, I think Iraq was taken off of that, and he was NOT bashing the US. He was saying that when Saddam was in power, Iraq was put in charge of humanitarian issues! That's HORRIFYING!
| Defiant wrote: | No dude, I had no idea what you meant. Now I do.
And I feel that the only reason you dislike the UN is because you fancy the idea of the US being a super power, and unchallenged by anyone. The UN tries to keep us in check, and you dont like any challenges to our power. I think you need to consider the needs of other countries, and the need to unify for the good of everyone, not just the US. |
Whatever helps you to sleep at night
| Founder wrote: | | Well if that were the case then I would agree. Except the UN doesn't just keep us in check they supress the US. The needs of the other nations come first and the needs of the US come whenever its ok with the other nations. Besides most of the World hates us. Do we really want to sit in a room and be dictated to by people who dispise us? Screw that. |
Good points.
| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | Defiant wrote: | No dude, I had no idea what you meant. Now I do.
And I feel that the only reason you dislike the UN is because you fancy the idea of the US being a super power, and unchallenged by anyone. The UN tries to keep us in check, and you dont like any challenges to our power. I think you need to consider the needs of other countries, and the need to unify for the good of everyone, not just the US. |
Wow...didn't mean to sound that *beep*...sorry...we are having problems with the girlfriend tonight .
Anyhooow, the only problem I have with the UN is that parts of the organization are corrupt and that they seem worthless. I do see the US as a superpower, but I don't think it is something that we should use as an automatic slip to do whatever we please. That is my problem with Bush sometimes is that he seems to give off the impression that we are going to do whatever we want and if you don't agree...the fcuk you. I mean we shouldn't have to please others, but I do think we need to be more careful about how we are seen by other countries.
Btw, I haven't voted yet, am still deciding . |
I'm still deciding too.
1. Yes, I agree about the UN and US as a superpower.
2. Yes, I agree that we shouldn't do everything without outer-world consent.
3. If we deem it necessary, screw France and Germany, let's defend our country.
| Defiant wrote: | | The rest of the world doesnt hate us! A good deal of the world may disagree with our actions, but that in no way leads to hatred. |
Um, no, and I would expect a Liberal to say that (like many at my school have said). "It's all Bush's fault we're hated." The fact is that there IS a huge amount of anti-American sentiment, especially from places like France and the Middle East.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:57 pm |
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Bull. The book accusing the US government of conducting 9/11 was France's NUMBER ONE bestseller! And there is TONS of anti-American sentiment there. I've watched specials on it, and heard much about "Hating America: The New World Sport." I don't believe CNN ONE BIT on this, OR a French official. They both want to create the alure of French pro-Americanism.
And sure, you never said anything about Bush, but that was CLEARLY the implication. "Personal vendettas." What vendetta was that, sir, and who carried it out? And in the past you've talked about Bush's "personal vendetta" and "revenge."
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Defiant
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:00 pm |
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I never said a damn thing about Bush, you are assuming so. I was referring to the agenda of the US government, no one person in particular. You can argue that Bush is the head of the government, but you know you just wish that I was attacking Bush, so stop trying to fabricate something. Go on what ive said, not what you want me to say.
And about France, youre completely wrong. I just gave you proof. What have you given me in return? Speculation and hate. That does not hold up in my book.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:02 pm |
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| Defiant wrote: | I never said a damn thing about Bush, you are assuming so. I was referring to the agenda of the US government, no one person in particular. You can argue that Bush is the head of the government, but you know you just wish that I was attacking Bush, so stop trying to fabricate something. Go on what ive said, not what you want me to say.
And about France, youre completely wrong. I just gave you proof. What have you given me in return? Speculation and hate. That does not hold up in my book. |
1. I KNOW what you were implying, and YOU KNOW IT. But whatever.
2. That is NOT proof. A French government official saying this? It means nothing except trying to keep on the US' good side. But whatever. Think what you want.
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Defiant
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:06 pm |
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Just the fact that France had the balls to stand up to the US over Iraq, shows that they are not just saying things that we want to hear. Your excuse is false. The proof is real. You just choose not to admit it, because you have something against France, which isnt right at all. You need to be more accepting of people. This is why I call you a racist.
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Hitchhiker
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| Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:11 pm |
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A lot of the animosity toward the U.S. has been incurred because of American attitude as much as Anti-American attitude You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
:;ducks from the clich� police::
Anyway . . . back to the biggest threat to international peace and security . . . it's obviously . . .
Spongebob Squarepants
And even he doesn't matter, since the Vogons are overdue for turning us into a hyperspace bypass
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