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 Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:40 pm Report: Friend secretly taped Bush |
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Report: Friend secretly taped Bush
NEW YORK (AP) -- Private conversations with George Bush secretly taped by an old friend before he was elected president foreshadow some of his political strategies and appear to reveal that he acknowledged trying marijuana, The New York Times has reported.
The conversations were recorded by Doug Wead, a former aide to George W. Bush's father, beginning in 1998, when Bush was weighing a presidential bid, until just before the Republican National Convention in 2000, the Times reported Saturday.
The tapes show Bush crafting a strategy for navigating the tricky political waters between Christian conservative and secular voters, repeatedly worrying that evangelicals would be angered by a refusal to bash gays and that secular Americans would be turned off by meetings with evangelical leaders.
On one tape, Bush explains that he told one prominent evangelical that he would not "kick gays, because I'm a sinner. How can I differentiate sin?"
In early tapes, Bush dismisses the strength of John McCain for the nomination and expresses concern about rival Steve Forbes. He also praises John Ashcroft as a promising candidate for Supreme Court justice, attorney general or vice president.
Bush also criticizes then-Vice President Al Gore for admitting marijuana use and explains why he would not do the same.
"I wouldn't answer the marijuana questions," he said, according to the Times. "You know why? Because I don't want some little kid doing what I tried."
According to the article, Wead played 12 of the tapes to a Times reporter. He said he recorded them because he viewed Bush as a historic figure. He is the author of a new book on presidential childhoods.
The White House did not deny the authenticity of the tapes.
"The governor was having casual conversations with someone he believed was his friend," White House spokesman Trent Duffy said, referring to Bush.
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Theresa
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:43 pm |
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Ha ha ha, doesn't sound like much trouble for Bush, though.
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:51 pm |
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I don't believe anything from CNN
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Theresa
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:52 pm |
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| Rbgirl wrote: | | I don't believe anything from CNN |
Oh, come on. CNN just said it was Sunday, February 20th, surely you believe that, 
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:53 pm |
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Nope sorry, I don't. 
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Puck
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:53 pm |
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I liked what Bush said. It's not like it is anything bad.
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 10:55 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | I liked what Bush said. It's not like it is anything bad. |
Totally agree. Like I said to you, if that's the worse out of 12 tapes, he's doing well, 
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Leo Wyatt
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:08 pm |
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I love Bush dont get me wrong I don't think he would use that majijuana oh whom am i to judge lol...
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Puck
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:15 pm |
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I think that he actually did try marijuana for a brief time in his youth.
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:18 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | I think that he actually did try marijuana for a brief time in his youth. |
He did. Then he found God. And Rb, it IS real. And FOX News reported it, too.
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:18 pm |
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Probably did, but I don't hold it against. long time ago. Thats just me, other people thinks different of course which is ok , iguess.
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:20 pm |
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| Rbgirl wrote: | | Probably did, but I don't hold it against. long time ago. Thats just me, other people thinks different of course which is ok , iguess. |
Same here. And btw, let's keep in perspective that that tape was in a private conversation. Like, he apparently called Gore a liar and said that Clinton was a disgrace, but that was in private, not in public like Gore called Bush a liar or Kennedy's called Bush a liar.
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Puck
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:22 pm |
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Well it's public now
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Theresa
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:22 pm |
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Well, Gore and Clinton are liars and a disgrace, respectively,
Cigar, anyone?
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Puck
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:23 pm |
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*sticks hand out and waits for a cigar*
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:23 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | Well, Gore and Clinton are liars and a disgrace, respectively,
Cigar, anyone? |
lol, yes, they are.
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Theresa
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| Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:31 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | *sticks hand out and waits for a cigar* |
You're one sick puppy...
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Most people try marajuana in their youth. I think the more pertinant ideal to go with is the part where he said "You know why? Because I don't want some little kid doing what I tried."
Bush IS a good man.
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| Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:39 pm |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | Most people try marajuana in their youth. I think the more pertinant ideal to go with is the part where he said "You know why? Because I don't want some little kid doing what I tried."
Bush IS a good man. |
RIGHT. That was in a casual conversation. He could've said, "Because I didn't want people to know," but he didn't. He said THIS.
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Arellia
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| Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:26 pm |
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I heard some of the tapes, and personally, I don't think the voice sounds at all like Bush. I'm rather skeptical. But eh, whatever.
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| Exalya wrote: | | I heard some of the tapes, and personally, I don't think the voice sounds at all like Bush. I'm rather skeptical. But eh, whatever. |
They are, but you HEARD the tapes?
But you know, despite the fact that I think this makes him look overwhelmingly good, this is HORRIBLE for a man to do--tape conversations to be able to publicize a future book---a supposed FRIEND.
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Arellia
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| Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:47 pm |
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| Republican_Man wrote: | | Exalya wrote: | | I heard some of the tapes, and personally, I don't think the voice sounds at all like Bush. I'm rather skeptical. But eh, whatever. |
They are, but you HEARD the tapes?
But you know, despite the fact that I think this makes him look overwhelmingly good, this is HORRIBLE for a man to do--tape conversations to be able to publicize a future book---a supposed FRIEND. |
Yes. Michael Savage played bits of them. I did a doubletake when he said it was Bush. I was like... 'Yeah. Right. HAH.' Didn't sound. At all. Like Bush. There was hardly any accent, and the tone wasn't right. Go figure.
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| Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:13 pm |
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| Exalya wrote: | | Republican_Man wrote: | | Exalya wrote: | | I heard some of the tapes, and personally, I don't think the voice sounds at all like Bush. I'm rather skeptical. But eh, whatever. |
They are, but you HEARD the tapes?
But you know, despite the fact that I think this makes him look overwhelmingly good, this is HORRIBLE for a man to do--tape conversations to be able to publicize a future book---a supposed FRIEND. |
Yes. Michael Savage played bits of them. I did a doubletake when he said it was Bush. I was like... 'Yeah. Right. HAH.' Didn't sound. At all. Like Bush. There was hardly any accent, and the tone wasn't right. Go figure. |
They were, actually, but keep in mind that that was 1998-2000 
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Arellia
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| Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:51 pm |
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In your opinion, I suppose. I still don't think it sounds much like him.
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