One Nation?

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Everyone both Democrats, Republicans, and Independents all agree that America needs to unify under our elected leader now that the election is over. However, not many people have offered suggestions as to how this can/should be acheived. What do yall think each sides need to do in order to strengthen unity? To anyone who is anti-Bush, will you honestly give Bush a fresh start? This is not something that Bush can do by himself, he needs those who dislike him to give him a fresh start, will yall do that? For Republicans and Democrats alike, the past 4 years, it seems that the word "compromise" has mysteriously fallen from the vocabulary of these two parties. Hopefully the next four years we can see this word brought back into to action.

Post any ideas you have, or any comments.

Jeff Miller · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:03 pm**

Bush will never get my surrport...oh wait he will when hell freezes over this is the worst thing for our country.

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

Nope, the worse thing for our country are those kind of feelings. Lovely how you act so open minded, and are always bringing up oh so innocently the "other side", however when it comes down to it, you your self would not in a million years give any support or credit to President Bush. That right there is the worst thing for our country.

Jeff Miller · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:08 pm**

Whatever you think jerky, I might as well shoot myself seeing how run down this country will be...

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

The answer I am about to give could apply to any country but I'm thinking in terms of the U.S.

I think the people can have a part to play, by engaging in dialogue with their leaders, by taking an active part in politics, by taking an interest in local and national issues.

No-one has to spend all their time campaigning on issues. But stick together, that's what I try to say. Unite with your local communities, get to know people such as your Police Chiefs and politicians. Make your voice heard in a diplomatic way. Take an interest in issues.

Most importantly, be PROACTIVE, not REACTIVE.

I see a lot of apathy here in England. People complain about taxes, poor public services and the like but very few people will actually do anything about it or make their voices heard. We have a local fireman who campaigns on important issues all year round. He does it diplomatically and it does make a difference. Now, if everyone could do that, it could make a difference.

As far as the politicians go, they need to be honest with people. If they make mistakes, admit it. Politicians are not supermen. George Bush is not Superman. Speak to the people, open up a dialogue with them, most importantly-LISTEN to them. Learn from your mistakes.

That's my view anyway. I bet the above looks really crap, doesn't it?

Puck · The Texan Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596

I was worried about this kind of attitude from people. This is dangerous to the country. Bush won and people need to accept that whether it pleases them or not. How can a country grow when people go around wailing that they are better off dead than living in the United States of America, without even giving the President, and pledging to never give him any support?

And I agree with you SDentist that Bush now, especially with election over, needs to be more able to acknowledge mistakes, and learn from it. I think we will find out if this happens or not within the next four years.

Anymore constructive criticism, or ideas?

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Hitchhiker · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:42 pm**

While I'm not willing to give him a fresh start, if George Bush is President again, then so be it. Work with what you have.

I'm sure I won't agree with many of Bush's decisions over the next four years, but I do agree that America needs to be unified. You don't have to like Bush, but he is your President, so you should respect him, because it does take effort and sacrifice to achieve that position.

I hope that there isn't as much litigation and allegations of "election trickery" as many are predicting, because that sort of thing is what makes me lose faith in the democratic process. We operate under the principle of having the majority pick our leader, and if the majority of states choose Bush, then so be it. Que sera, sera.

Remember the slogan, "United we stand, divided we fall." It is not the United States of Republicans or the United States of Democrats. It is the United States of America. You may not like Bush, but being able to contribute to the betterment of society is a testament to your character as well as America as a whole. Get past the political differences and remember that it is easier to work against someone from the inside than it is from out.

But it will certainly be an interesting four years.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Republican_Man · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:53 pm**

Unite, yes, we must unite, and if the Libs can, we will.

Defiant · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:57 pm**

Of course you will, you got your way. The Democrats will most likely lose faith in the election process. I sure have. It will not be easy to unite the country.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Arellia · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:00 pm**

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Replying to Exalya:

Sam Kenobi · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:09 pm**

Founder · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:08 pm**

Well said Triam. I agree. The Democrats are being pouty because they didn't get their leader. Like Triam said. You had 8 years of Clinton. We stifled and didn't say anything. Now the least you can do is shut the f**k up and accept it. It wasn't rigged. Bush won. Its as simple as that. I don't like Kerry but I respect him for not dragging it out and accepting the truth unlike Al Bore. He acted like a damn child. Kerry conceded with dignity. It literally was the first time I looked at him and didn't want to smack him. You can't take your cue from your oh so perfect leader? You don't want a unified America do you? So you don't get your way so everyone has to suffer eh? Then when the rift grows wider you can blame Bush? Not a chance. The fault is yours and yours alone. Unless of course you choose to grow up. Your only embarrasing yourselves.

Leaders from France, Germany, and Spain sent letters to Bush extending an olive branch. These people who "He alienated." They are willing to start over. Why aren't you?

We are NOT saying you must agree with him. We are NOT saying you have to forgive him. We ARE saying that you should at least stop dividing the country. Why is that so much?

The Founder in ST DS9 said it best in the last episode.

"You may win this war, Commander, but I promise you, when it's over, you will have lost so many ships, so many lives, that your victory will taste as bitter as defeat."

Now they want to make our victory taste as bitter as defeat. If they can't win then everyone suffers. If we did this we'd hear "Well the people have spoken!" "Accept it!" BS....

Sam Kenobi · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:31 pm**

Founder · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:36 pm**

Sam Kenobi · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:39 pm**

No, I agree with you except for that. Why is it their fault? or better yet.. what is their fault?

Founder · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:42 pm**

The rift continuing between Democrats and Republicans. Why is there even a rift? I hate this. Im not saying they started it. Republicans are just as guilty. This is so dumb. We shouldn't be divided like this. Different opinions? Sure. But sometimes we get to.....angry with each other.

Sam Kenobi · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:43 pm**

oh, ok. I see. My fault for not reading it over again.

Founder · **Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:46 pm**

Jeff Miller · **Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:27 am**

Sam Kenobi · **Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:58 am**

no, what do they say?

Defiant · **Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:59 am**

YOURE DAMN RIGHT I DONT WANT BUSH TO BE PRESIDENT. But ive accepted it, and you need to stop portraying my opinion for me. All of you. Ive made my thoughts very clear on the matter, no matter how you attempt to distort them. Why would you continue debating? Its all over! Knock it the *beep* off!