USA: Elections

syd2002 · **Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:26 pm USA: Elections**

Since I'm Canadain, I thought I would make a completly biased poll, sort of a sample group of stv of voters. People outside the Us may also vote. Now this is gonig to be intresting. Please include why you voted who. AND PLEASE no bashing, quotes and views may be expressed nothing else. Dont lose it...dont get this locked.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

I'm a Brit and not really qualified to talk about this. But I voted for Bush.

It's just my opinion so please feel free to disagree. Firstly, I don't think some of Bush's domestic policies have been good for the U.S. However, I think he has done some good and his heart seems to be in the right place.

He has done some good in the war on terror (never an easy war). The fact is, whilst innocents have suffered, NO-ONE, whether it be Bush, Blair or Putin, can stand by and let terrorists cause huge loss of life. I know there are shades of grey, I know governments should pay attention to the causes that give rise to terrorism. But there are fanatical terrorists who wish to cause loss of life and who have hijckaed Islam, a peaceful religion.

Action needs to be taken. Bush has been proactive about this and it's one thing I commend him for. That's all I'll say on the "war on terror" for now.

There's a lof of work to be done. Bush isn't perfect but the main problem, in any country, is that voting in a new leader can set things back, much like a sports team bringing in a new coach and having to get used to his training and tactics.

I hope Bush stays. But of course, it's the American people whose opinions on this will be more valid than mine.

syd2002 · **Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:42 pm**

Thankyou for your detailed input, I enjoyed reading it. I agree with most of your points.

Gonig on what you said about being brit and all, we dont care who you are. Everyone should be allowed to put input into this, because if we like it or not the US is a leading country in the world.

Also, some pics and possibly some quotes have been added to the first post.

Superman · Fleet Admiral Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 10220

Republican_Man · **Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:18 pm**

Yeah, I know, and it's sickening.
I've seen many pictures of Bush w/ Hitler or Mussolini, Bush with the swastica, etc.
However, this topic should really be in WN.

Ronevick · **Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:34 pm**

Kerry.

Defiant · **Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:45 pm**

Ive done this topic before in WN. Kerry though.

Sevenofninenz · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:36 am**

Kerry is a Democrat!!! We like Democrats!!! Kate Mulgrew is a Democrat. Actually:

VOTE: Kate Mulgrew for President!!!!!!!

superwoman · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:19 am**

^HELL YEAH!

She would be great!

Birdy · Socialist Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.

I vote Kerry, because I don't think Bush is any good for the world. I don't think Kerry is much of a democrat, more a democrat-republican if you compare it to Dutch standards. But that isn't the issue. I would vote for Kerry because I think he has better idea's about healthcare and he is pro-abortion, and Bush is not. Also one of the reasons why I don't like Bush.
So.. I don't think Kerry would be absolutly the best for the US, but he's in any case better than Bush I think.

Five - seveN · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:01 am**

I voted Kerry, but because of this:

Arellia · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:24 am**

Link, the Hero of Time · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:56 am**

I voted Kerry. Because of what was asked I cant detail all my reasons.

But some reasons include, Bush had 3 years after September 11th and the Dot Com burst to fix things and they got worse.
His theological reasoning including "protecting the definition of marriage", Condemning stem cell research which could save thousands (Which Christopher Reeves was an activist for), and Abortion is not something a president should have. The greater good should be thought of.

IntrepidIsMe · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:07 pm**

Moved: WN

syd2002 · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:39 pm**

Vote Update

Pres. Bush
33% [ 5 ]
Sen. Kerry
66% [ 10 ]
Independent
0% [ 0 ]
Undecided
0% [ 0 ]

Total Votes : 15

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As a canadain I agree with some points and dissagree with some points from everyone that has posted. I have not yet clearly stated my political stance in the US, but have in Canada. From what i've herd bush and kerry are great people and leaders. But there cant be two presidents and if there could both of them deserve it.

I also reember reading something about governement. The western way of governemnt will always be the way for us, even though it has its flaws. There are many types of goverments, all with thier disadvantages and aadvantages, it all depends on the type of people.....they set the standereds and governement.

Anyways thats my little bit for now.....keep inputing this is getting intresting.

Republican_Man · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:07 pm**

Birdy · Socialist Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.

Republican_Man · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:13 pm**

Birdy · Socialist Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 13502 Location: Here.

Republican_Man · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:39 pm**

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WeAz · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:50 pm**

ALL should vote for kerry!!!!!!!

Nate Jameson · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:05 pm**

I strongly support President Bush. I think Kerry is a good person, but not fit for leading the US.

Hitchhiker · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:22 pm**

I'm Canadian too, eh.

I like neither Kerry nor Bush. I think I stated this somewhere before . . .

Basically, Kerry talks around a point for so long that you either forget what he was talking about in the first place, or it seems like he is a "flip-flopper".

We got to see Bush as president for four years, and I'm not enamored by the possibility of having him for a U.S. president for another four years.

It's not just the war in Iraq, it's just the fact that he consistently has made decisions which I disagree with. I don't think I can say I 100% agree with Bush on anything. I can't say the same thing about Kerry either, but as I said above, that is because I have no clue what Kerry is saying.

Aside from that, which party do I think should lead?

Interestingly enough, we took political affiliation tests in Civics class yesterday. I scored a 35 on one and an 83 on the other, putting me "Left of Centre" or "Liberal".

The Democrats seem to have a better plan for domestic affairs, while the Republicans have a better international view. However, neither party really knows where it's going. Both have "plans" for Iraq, but neither of the parties have a detailled plan that is guaranteed to settle things down. The U.S. is at an impasse right now, with a lot of its resources invested in Iraq.

I'm fairly surprised by how similar the election tactics for both Canada and the U.S. were around. Both parties' candidates joined in the mudslinging. Kerry and Bush, instead of leaving most of the dirty work to their underlings, have both personally joined in throwing insults at each other and engaging in other unsavory campaign tactics. The same thing happend with Martin and Harper. Amazing how dishonest politics can be, eh.

However, I can honestly say that at this point, I really don't have much of an opinion. The fact is, I really can't think of anything to debate about it anymore, and I just want this election to end.

What I'm really anxious to see are the U.S. elections 50-70 years down the road from now.

syd2002 · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:29 pm**

Perosnally, in Canada I'm Conservative. US, I'm in the middle. I agree with you on many points Hutchhiker.

Voyager` · **Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:03 pm**

Bush will be getting my vote in november

I agree and support the war and I agree with most of his stands on the issues.