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Transcript: Bush Talks to O'Reilly
Monday, September 27, 2004
This is a partial transcript from the September 27, 2004 edition of "The O'Reilly Factor," that has been edited for clarity.
Watch Part II and III of the interview on Tuesday, September 28 and Wednesday, September 29 at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET! Catch "The O'Reilly Factor" weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to the "Radio Factor" weekdays on Westwood One.
BILL O'REILLY, HOST: Okay. First of all, I want to thank you for talking with me.
PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH : [chuckles]
O�REILLY: So few people will.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, there's, uh, it�s a big gamble on my part.
O�REILLY: No, it isn�t, not really though. You, we talked four and a half years ago,
PRESIDENT BUSH: I�m teasing.
O�REILLY: Uh, yeah, when you,
PRESIDENT BUSH: I, I enjoy, I enjoy how you interview people, and I uh, appreciate you giving me the chance to come on and have what we say in Texas, just a visit.
O�REILLY: Yeah. We�re going to have a visit here. I�ve got fifteen questions for you. If they're dumb, tell me they're dumb. Because the audience will like that.
PRESIDENT BUSH: [Chuckles]
O�REILLY: If they're dumb questions, look that's just dumb. Um, the first one is, according to a poll taken by the Coalition Authority (search) last spring, only five percent of the Iraqi people see the United States as liberators. Are you surprised they don�t appreciate the American sacrifice more?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I, I think they're beginning to, appreciate the sacrifice, because the country is getting better. It�s tougher than heck right now, because Zarqawi (search) and some of these former Baathists are killing innocent Iraqis and killing our soldiers in order to try to get us to leave. Um, I also saw a poll where it said by far the vast majority of the Iraqis believe the world is getting better. And that's positive. In other words, people are beginning to see progress. Electricity is better, schools are opening, hospitals are running. Um, I think when it�s all said and done, the Iraqis are going to look back and say thank God for America.
O�REILLY: How long is it going to take before that happens, do you think?
PRESIDENT BUSH: You know, it�s uh, as soon as possible. Now, I think the elections are going to have uh, uh you know, a very positive effect, and they take place in January, and, but the people want to vote.
O�REILLY: But can they vote when people are being blown up,
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah.
O�REILLY: And these guys are threatening them, then they vote,
PRESIDENT BUSH: That's when you're supposed to vote. You�ve got to stand tough with these terrorists. You cannot allow the terrorists to dictate whether or not a society can be free or not. Do you remember what happened in Afghanistan when the Taliban pulled the four women off the bus and killed them because they had voter registration cards? I think there had been about three million Afghan citizens who had registered at this point in time. A lot of people said, well, the elections look like they�ve got to be over in Afghanistan, because the Taliban is, too violent to allow the elections to go forward. Today ten million citizens, [OVERLAPPING VOICES] in that country have registered to vote, forty percent of whom are women, which is a powerful statistic.
O�REILLY: The South Vietnamese didn't fight for their freedom, which is why they don�t have it today.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah.
O�REILLY: Do you think the Iraqis are going to fight for their freedom?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Absolutely.
O�REILLY: You do.
PRESIDENT BUSH: No question in my mind, they will, you bet. I was with Prime Minister Allawi (search) yesterday, he is a tough guy. He is a strong leader. He believes the future of Iraq is the future of freedom, and he tells me that, you know that these places where they go bomb the recruits, the people trying to sign up to serve in the army or the police, the next day, more recruits come.
O�REILLY: Okay.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Because people want to defend their country. I believe that. You know why I believe that, and this is really important, uh, uh, it�s because, I believe everybody yearns to be free. I believe Muslims yearn to be free. And I, and this is tough, look, no question it�s tough times. But if we send mixed signals, if we waver, the times will be tougher. That's what the terrorists are watching, they're watching us like hawks.
O�REILLY: What happened to Saddam�s chemical arsenal, do you know?
PRESIDENT BUSH: No. I don�t. We thought we�d have stockpiles, uh, we do know he had the capability of making weapons. And that capability could have been passed on to terrorists, and that was a risk, after 9/11, we could not afford to take.
O�REILLY: No I understand that. But you, to this day, don�t know what happened to his chemical weapons. He didn't tell us, and, and,
PRESIDENT BUSH: No. Not yet.
O�REILLY: He hasn�t given us much, has he?
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, he, well he doesn�t have anything, you know, doesn�t have anything to, to gain by giving us much, I mean, he�s, he�s going to go on trial, and the Iraqis will lay out a case, and, you know, I mean, why would he, why would he tell the truth?
O�REILLY: �The Wall Street Journal� says, and that's a conservative paper, that uh, the Defense Department and the Pentagon wasn�t aggressive enough in getting al-Sadr and then crushing Fallujah.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah.
O�REILLY: Is the �Journal� wrong?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I, I think this uh, I think that the, government of Iraq, Allawi, did a good job in Najaf with Sadr. In other words, they now control the shrines, and they did so in a way that he, Allawi, thought would be best for the political process. In other words, there's a dual track here. There's a political process going forward, and a security operation going forward. And the two must be parallel, and uh, Allawi made the decision that the best operation in Najaf uh would be to, the way we handled it, and uh, if they're saying that maybe last fall we should have moved on Sadr, it�s a judgment call that you know, history will have to look back on.
O�REILLY: Fallujah? Should we have crushed it when we could have?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, there again, there was a dual track with uh, a political process going forward, a lot of people on the ground there thought that if we�d have gone into Fallujah at the time, the uh, interim government would not have been established, and if the government would not have been established, we wouldn't have been able to transfer sovereignty. I happen to think the transfer of sovereignty is a key moment in this, history of a free Iraq. The reason I believe that is that the Iraq people are going to follow uh Iraqi leadership, not U.S. leadership. And uh, Prime Minister Allawi�s been there for about two and a half months, nearly three months, he�s getting his feet on the ground, he�s establishing a government, they're training police, they're training army, they're beginning to move out in, in places like Sumaria and Najaf in order to make the place a more peaceful, peaceful country.
O�REILLY: The mission accomplished statement in May 2003, if you had to do it all over again, would you not have done it?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Uh, well first of all, the statement said, Thank you for be, serving in Afghanistan and Iraq, thank you for being on one of the largest, longest cruises in our nation�s history. Thank you for serving our country, and we�ve still got tough work in Iraq. Now I�m, I�m going to go and thank our troops every chance I get.
O�REILLY: But the press spinned it, you know how they spinned it.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, they spin everything.
O�REILLY: Me too.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, [chuckles] I understand, you know, maybe you deserve it more than me, but nevertheless, [chuckles] look I, I,
O�REILLY: [OVERLAPPING VOICES] You�ve taken some heat for that.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I take heat for a lot of things, and uh,
O�REILLY: Would you do it again?
PRESIDENT BUSH: You mean have the sign up there?
O�REILLY: No, no, but go in there with the flight jacket,
PRESIDENT BUSH: Absolutely.
O�REILLY: You would.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Of course. I�m saying to the troops, on this carrier and elsewhere, thanks for serving America. Absolutely.
O�REILLY: Okay.
PRESIDENT BUSH: And by the way, those sol, those uh sailors and airmen, loved seeing the Commander in Chief.
O�REILLY: Oh, that's [INAUDIBLE]
PRESIDENT BUSH: These kids had been on a very long cruise. They�d been on a cruise to both, in two theaters of war now, Afghanistan and Iraq. I flew out there, and said, thanks. Thanks on behalf of a grateful nation. You bet I�d do it again.
O�REILLY: This is really a tough one.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Okay. [chuckles]
O�REILLY: Iran. Uh, said yesterday, hey, we�re going to develop this nuclear stuff, we don�t care what you think. You ready to use military force against Iran if they continue to defy the world on nuclear?
PRESIDENT BUSH: My hope is that we can solve this diplomatically.
O�REILLY: But if you can�t.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, let me try to solve it diplomatically first. All options are on the table, of course, in any situation. But diplomacy is the first option.
O�REILLY: Would you allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon?
PRESIDENT BUSH: We, we are working our hearts out so that they don�t develop a nuclear weapon, and the best way to do so is to continue to keep international pressure on them.
O�REILLY: Is it conceivable that you would allow them to develop a nuclear weapon?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Uh, no, we�ve made it clear, our position is that they won�t have a nuclear weapon.
O�REILLY: Period.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yeah.
O�REILLY: A �Time� magazine investigation says, three million illegal aliens crossed the Mexican border, and we talked about this four and a half years,
PRESIDENT BUSH: We have, I know, it�s a issue that you're concerned about.
O�REILLY: Every year, three and a half million illegals come over. Why can�t the federal government control that?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, as you know, as the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue, there is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop the process of, of, of uh, of uh,
O�REILLY: With all due respect though, it�s not working.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well,
O�REILLY: Three million people.
PRESIDENT BUSH: It�s working a little better, they're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing, but I was trying to get my words here for a minute. Trying to give you some facts that would, I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border, we�re modernizing border techniques, we�re using better surveillance methods to stop this, crossing at the border. Now look, people are coming up because they want to work. You know, that, family values don�t stop at the border.
O�REILLY: Absolutely,
PRESIDENT BUSH: If you can make fifty cents in the interior of Mexico, and five bucks in uh, the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks, and they're poor.
O�REILLY: Ninety percent of them are, but ten percent are bad guys.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, look, look,
O�REILLY: A lot of bad guys coming here.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I don't know how you got the ten percent number, maybe,
O�REILLY: The border patrol you know, incarceration, violent crime, that,
PRESIDENT BUSH: No question about it. It is a ter, serious issue. I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary worker cards available for people. And uh, I think it�s best for the employers who are employing these people, I think it�s best for the employees that are trying to find work. I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class, that's why I believe in NAFTA (search),
O�REILLY: We�ll be in the grave.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I don't think so, it�s happening. Look, you, I wish I could have taken you down there and shown you the, the northern tier of states in Mexico, uh, ten years ago compared to today. I mean, it, it�s happening.
O�REILLY: You,
PRESIDENT BUSH: Free trade helps lift, lives, free trade develops commerce, free trade gives people a chance to realize their dreams. And so long as the wage differential is as big as it is, and so long as moms and dads feel the, necessity to feed their children, they're going to come and try to make a living.
O�REILLY: So you're not going to military militarize the border to stop,
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, we�re going to use the border patrol and beef it up, and make it, give it better technologies and better equipment to do its job.
O�REILLY: Okay. You know a lot of people are not going to like that answer, you know that.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well it�s a, a truthful answer.
O�REILLY: Okay. Um,
PRESIDENT BUSH: I mean, as opposed as to what, putting a military on the border,
O�REILLY: Yeah, military to back up the border patrol, to just stop the, the, rampant,
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, I think the best way to do it is to give the border patrol the assets it needs to do its job.
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Hey bud, you could have posted this in the other topic for this 
And it was good--Bush did well, except on the Border situation.
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Here's part II:
| Quote: | Transcript: Bush Talks to O'Reilly, Part 2
Wednesday, September 29, 2004
FOX NEWS
This is a partial transcript from the September 28, 2004 edition of "The O'Reilly Factor," that has been edited for clarity.
Watch Part III of the interview on Wednesday, September 29 at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET! Catch "The O'Reilly Factor" every weeknight at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to the "Radio Factor" weekdays on Westwood One.
BILL O'REILLY: HOST: How will the federal government ever pay off the federal deficit, in your opinion?
PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: By being fiscally wise and growing our economy.
O�REILLY: Do you think it can be paid off in our lifetime, though?
BUSH:: The deficit, yeah. You mean, for,� have the revenues exceed the expenses in the budget?
O�REILLY: See, we have a big deficit here�
BUSH: You're talking about the debt or the deficit?
O�REILLY: The deficit.
BUSH:: Yeah.
O�REILLY: Well people are saying that because we have to fight this war on terror, because of the tax cuts, oh and you know how the propaganda, it�s all over the place�
BUSH: No, I think we can � of course I think we can balance the budget � as a matter of fact, I put out a hand, a budget that says we�ll cut it in half in five years, now, that's going to mean that the Congress has got to be fiscally wise, with our money.
O�REILLY: Has that ever happened?
BUSH: Yeah, it�s happening. Seriously. One other, you know, I get accused for not having vetoed any budgets. One reason why is because I�ve worked with Speaker Hastert (search) and Leader Frist (search), and formerly worked with Leader Lott (search), to develop a budget that trunked discretionary spending, that was reasonable about the growth in discretionary spending. It�s now, � non-defense, non-homeland, discretionary spending � is less than one percent in our budget. And that was growing at one, less that one percent, when I became President, it was growing at fifteen percent. So we�ve made some progress. The reason I believe tax cuts were necessary is because we were in a recession and we needed to grow this economy.
O�REILLY: But I�m rich and I�m getting a tax cut from you. Tax cuts for the rich, what do you think when you hear that?
BUSH:: I think that � if you're going to have tax cuts, everybody who pays taxes ought to get relief. I think�
O�REILLY: Even the rich bad guys like me?
BUSH:: I think that � I think thirty-five percent is enough for anybody to pay in federal taxes. I also know that when you're talking about tax, taxing the rich, really what you're talking about is taxing many small business owners. Ninety percent of the small business owners are sub-chapter S corporations, or limited partnerships. They pay tax at the individual income tax rate, and so when you hear the politicians saying tax the rich, you're talking about taxing job creators as well.
O�REILLY: And entrepreneurs, like me.
BUSH: Entrepreneurs like you. I think raising taxes would be a mistake, and my opponent�s going to raise taxes.
O�REILLY: Do you think the federal government has a moral obligation to pay Americans� health bills?
BUSH: A moral obligation to pay, now, I think the federal government has an obligation to help those who cannot help themselves.
CROSSTALK
O�REILLY: Even if they're alcoholics or drug addicts�
BUSH: That's why, well that's why I�ve put community centers, and that's why I am for � providing places where people can get preventative care, as well as primary care � without going to emergency rooms and hospitals. That again is a wise use of taxpayers� money. Secondly, I believe that the federal government must help seniors. It�s an obligation we took on when Lyndon Johnson was the President. And the Medicare proposal that I, � the Medicare bill I signed � is one that modernizes Medicare, gives seniors more choices. It says there�ll be a prescription drug benefit for seniors. It provides preventative care for seniors so we can diagnose early. It is a good piece of legislation that honors an obligation to our seniors. I think we also ought to help the people who are uninsured find insurance by doing practical things such as allowing small businesses to pool risk across jurisdictional boundaries, these are called association health plans, so they can buy insurance at the same discount big companies can.
O�REILLY: But aren�t we becoming an entitlement society here with the government helping, and I understand, I mean, you�ve got to be a compassionate person, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican. But it, the government gets bigger and bigger and bigger, now we�re in prescription drugs, we�re in�
BUSH:: Well, let me stop you on the prescription drugs just for a second. Prescription drugs is a part of medicine. And we provide it, we said to the seniors, we�ll provide you medicine. We would put, we�d put the money up to, for heart surgery, we wouldn't put the money up for the prescription drug coverage necessary to prevent the heart surgery from happening in the first place. So that's a wise use of modernizing Medicare. I think it�s going to save us money in the long term. I know it�s going to provide our seniors better coverage and care, and seniors are going to have a choice in this plan. In other words, we�ve introduced market reform into Medicare for the first time, and that's why it was opposed by my opponent, and many people who believe we ought to nationalize healthcare. This is, you � what you're talking about is an issue in this campaign, and that is, do we increase the reach of the federal government to the lives of our citizens?
O�REILLY: Right.
BUSH:: My answer is no. We shouldn�t. On healthcare, for example. I believe that we ought to have health savings accounts and expand them and provide incentives to small businesses, to provide health savings accounts for their uh employees. I believe low-income working Americans ought to be given a tax credit to apply to a health savings account, all aimed at making sure that the decisions between uh, uh between the doctor and patient are central to the healthcare decision-making process.
O�REILLY: Here, I asked your wife this question. Why is the country so divided? All the polls show divided on Iraq. Divided on the presidential race. Why? You ran on a uniter, not divider, ticket.
BUSH:: Right. Well, it was pretty divided in the 2000 elections, [LAUGHTER] I recall.
O�REILLY: Yeah.
BUSH:: Well it�s just � it�s just one, a period of history, you know, and I�m doing my best to bring people together. We�ve been united at times during my presidency. We were united after [CROSSTALK] September the 11th, we were united going into Afghanistan.
O�REILLY: But why did it go, why did it go out, is there one thing that's polarized the nation?
BUSH:: I, well, you know, we�ll see how polarized it is on Election Day, for starters. But, if I, � the Iraq war was a, � is a polarizing event, because a lot of people didn't see the wisdom of going into Iraq.
O�REILLY: The big mac world picture. The big picture about fighting terrorism through Iraq.
BUSH: Well I think, uh, yeah, I mean, there was, I believe that we have to take threats seriously before they fully materialize, I saw a threat in Saddam Hussein. Everybody saw a threat in Saddam Hussein. My opponent saw a threat in Saddam Hussein,
O�REILLY: Not Jacques Chirac?
BUSH:: Well, he voted yes at the Security Council.
O�REILLY: Yeah, but he stabbed you guys in the back, you thought he was going to help you and he didn't.
BUSH:: Well, the, in the first resolution that took place in � right after my, well not right after my speech, but shortly after my speech, at the General Assembly in 2002, � the resolution said, the resolution said, disclose, disarm, or face serious consequences, and France voted aye. When it came time, after diplomacy had failed, to define serious consequences, that's where we had a divergence of opinion. I believe when international bodies speak, they ought to, � they ought to mean what they say. And I believe when a President speaks, he ought to mean what he says.
O�REILLY: What�s Chirac�s problem?
BUSH:: In Iraq? Well he...
CROSSTALK
O�REILLY: He hasn�t been a great ally to the U.S. since 9/11, they won't, he doesn�t want NATO (search) forces to protect elections in Afghanistan, come on, I mean, this guy�s�
BUSH:: Well they're helping us in Afghanistan some, they�ve helped us in Haiti some. But you know, he�s, � he just didn't see the wisdom of the action in Iraq and I think history�s going to prove him wrong. I would, I �
CROSSTALK
O�REILLY: You think it was political, you think he�s playing to his left-wing base in France?
BUSH: Well, you�d better get him on your show �Factor,� because I don't want to put words in his � I�ll tell you this. I�ll tell you this. � If Saddam Hussein were in power today, we�d be a heck of a lot worse off. And it�s really important for our citizens to understand that. This is a guy that had the capability of making weapons. I believe he was trying to delay and hope that the world would turn its head once again, and remember, there was what, seventeen different U.N. resolutions�
O�REILLY: Oh, it�s ridiculous. I, mean�
BUSH: That had been totally ignored.
O�REILLY: On that one, I�m with you.
BUSH: He would have been completely strengthened if the United States and the world had not acted.
O�REILLY: Well what about the guys who died in the first Gulf War, when you sign a cease-fire that he disobeyed seventeen times�
BUSH: Absolutely.
O�REILLY: We�re supposed to let those guys just be buried in the sand and not do anything? Look I�m, everybody knows I�m with you on that one.
All right. In light of the CBS document fiasco, do you think you get a fair shake from the network news and the elite media like the �New York Times?� Do you think your administration and you get a fair�
BUSH:: That � O�Reilly, you know I�m smarter than that, to be taking on the press in the middle of a campaign.
[LAUGHTER]
O�REILLY: Well�
BUSH:: What do you want�
[LAUGHTER]
O�REILLY: Philosophically, let�s talk philosophically. Do you think you get a fair shake?
BUSH:: Look I, that's up for the people to decide that. You know, I � I just tell people what I think. And I try to be as clear as I can be. You know, when it�s all said and done, and people look at this campaign, they're going to have to decide whether or not they want somebody who tells them what he believes and doesn�t change positions based upon pressure and polls or, or articles in newspapers.
O�REILLY: A guy over at �Newsweek,� Evan Thomas, one of the editors over there, said eighty percent of the elite media favors Kerry.
BUSH: Yeah.
[LAUGHTER]
O�REILLY: That doesn�t surprise you, does it?
BUSH:: Not really.
O�REILLY: Do you have any theory on why college professors pinhead press people?
BUSH: [LAUGHTER]
O�REILLY: And I�m in one of those, by the way, � I�m a pinhead press figure �why they go into the liberal realm?
BUSH: No, I, I don't, I really haven�t�
O�REILLY: Cause you went to Yale and Harvard.
BUSH: I did.
O�REILLY: And they�re all, pinhead liberals over there, right?
[LAUGHTER]
BUSH: I haven�t spent a lot of time why professors feel the way they feel�
O�REILLY: You just wanted to get out of the class. I was the same way. I don't care what you think.
[LAUGHTER]
All right, do you think you got any preferential treatment getting into the Air Guard during Vietnam?
BUSH:: No. I don�t. As a matter of fact, the general that or the commander of the unit Buck Staudt, said, said the same thing. No.
O�REILLY: So you don�t think you got any preferential treatment because you were a Bush?
BUSH: I don't. If I did, I have, I�m not, � I�m not aware of it, and again, the, commander of my unit, Buck Staudt, said the other day, publicly, I got no preferential treatment.
O�REILLY: If you had to do anything again during those years, if you had to live, re-live them, would you have done anything differently?
BUSH: No, I fulfilled my duty, and was honorably discharged. I think I had about five hundred and seventy flying hours, and�
O�REILLY: So all this is propaganda, all of this�
BUSH: I was on active duty for a little over a year and a half and I proudly served.
CROSSTALK
O�REILLY: And they�
BUSH: And had my unit been called up, I�d have gone.
O�REILLY: They say you didn't register in Massachusetts, is that bogus?
BUSH:: I fulfilled my duties, I mean, this is...
[LAUGHTER]
I did exactly what my commanders told me to do.
O�REILLY: OK. Do you think the Swift Boat vets charges against Kerry are unfair?
BUSH:: I think that these ads � first of all, I said clearly � all these ads, these 527s, where billionaires fund the campaigns, ought to be gone.
O�REILLY: Yeah. I agree.
BUSH: I thought I signed a bill that did that, but you know, evidently they, regulatory bodies didn't agree. And uh, we�ve now just got money flooding into the system, and it�s been flooding in for over a year, into the system, that not only puts TV ads up, but also [CROSSTALK] disrupt the ground game�
O�REILLY: Excuse me. It�s just corrupt, and we know it. But the Swift Boat guys against Kerry, do you think that was fair?
BUSH: As I said, I was asked about whether or not Kerry lied, I said, no, he didn't lie. That was my judgment, I don't know enough about the Swift Boat people. � I do know that they�ve got strong opinions, and I, believed that those ads as well as other types of ads shouldn�t have been on the air.
O�REILLY: You didn't know anything about the Swift Boat ads before they went on the air, did you?
BUSH: No. I didn't.
O�REILLY: Did Karl Rove (search) know anything about it?
BUSH: I don't think so. In other words, you're asking if anybody coordinated this in our campaign?
O�REILLY: No, whether they�d give you a heads up they were going to do it.
BUSH: Not to my knowledge.
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It was good as well.
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