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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:02 pm Man fired for heckling Bush |
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Man fired for heckling Bush
CHARLESTON, West Virginia (AP) -- A man who heckled President Bush at a political rally was fired from his job at an advertising and design company for offending a client who provided tickets to the event.
The fired graphic designer said Saturday he won't try to get his job back.
"I'm mad less about losing the job -- I'm more mad about the reasons," said Glen Hiller, 35, of Berkeley Springs. "All I did was show up and voice my opinion."
Hiller was ushered out of Hedgesville High School on Tuesday after shouting his disagreement with Bush's comments about the war in Iraq and the search for weapons of mass destruction. The crowd had easily drowned out Hiller with its chant: "Four more years."
"He surrounds himself with people who support him," Hiller said of Bush. "Your opinion ... is viewed as right or wrong."
When he showed up for work at Octavo Designs of Frederick, Maryland, the following morning, he said he was told he'd embarrassed and offended a client who provided tickets to the event -- and that he was fired.
The client was a public relations worker who represents the Berkeley County school district, he said. "It's just bizarre that you disagree with them and it all turns evil," Hiller said.
Messages left with Octavo Designs were not immediately returned Saturday.
The father of two young girls had worked at the design firm for five months, doesn't plan to appeal the firing, and holds no grudge against his boss.
"To some degree I can see her point of view," Hiller said. "Advertising is all about having the perfect tan and driving a cool car. It's all about image."
Hiller said he now plans to pursue work as a registered nurse, a field in which he worked for 10 years before landing the design job.
Last month, Charleston City Council apologized to two protesters arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 rally. The pair were taken from the event in restraints after revealing T-shirts with Bush's name crossed out on the front and the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back. Trespassing charges were ultimately dismissed.
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Toad Chief of Security
Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 936 Location: The Great Plains
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Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:00 pm |
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Interesing
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Kyre Commodore
Joined: 15 Mar 2002 Posts: 1263
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:51 am |
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Silly.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:19 pm |
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What reason do you have to go to Bush rallys and do that? Do these people find it surprising what will happen? Im sure if I went to a Kerry speech, with a " I hate Kerry" T-shirt I won't be welcomed.
Quote: | "He surrounds himself with people who support him," Hiller said of Bush. |
No s!@t! All Presidential candidates tend to....
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:18 pm |
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Simply a moron, guy should've been arrested for disturbing the peace.
He's not 'trying to voice his opinion'. He's trying to ruffle feathers.
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Angeldust The Mob Queen
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 6498 Location: In your most wonderful, screwed up dreams. :P
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:21 pm |
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Quote: | He's trying to ruffle feathers. |
I find it interesting that you guys don't take offense to something like this, but Mrs. Kerry defending herself at a Kerry rally bothered you.... Just found that interesting...[/quote]
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:33 pm |
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I think the thing that caused an issue w/ Mrs. Kerry was her attitude... Yelling at the reporter, not being irritated by the heckler...
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:30 pm |
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Angeldust wrote: | Quote: | He's trying to ruffle feathers. |
I find it interesting that you guys don't take offense to something like this, but Mrs. Kerry defending herself at a Kerry rally bothered you.... Just found that interesting... |
How are the situations similar? They really aren't.
Anyway, I don't care what Teresa Kerry says or does, I never cared, she obviously doesn't know politics, maybe she can give me some katsup tips.
Last edited by LightningBoy on Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:39 pm |
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No one said they took offense. We're just saying this guy got what he deserved. Simple as that.
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Angeldust The Mob Queen
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 6498 Location: In your most wonderful, screwed up dreams. :P
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:44 pm |
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I just think that it is a sad day in America when someone gets punished for voicing their opinion.
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WeAz Commodore
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 1519 Location: Where you aren't
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:56 pm |
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Angeldust wrote: | I just think that it is a sad day in America when someone gets punished for voicing their opinion. | exzactly
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It was Bush, not Clinton, who ignored the warning signs for 9/11.
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:58 pm |
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There is a time and place for it. That wasn't one of them.
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:59 pm |
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Not true. There are many jobs where you are expected to show some decorum, no matter how you disagree. And his boss is right. Advertising is all about image. If he wants his company a-poltical, it's his right. The same for when you are in the military.
Tsss, you posted while I was typing, Founder,
(just to clarify what my post was directed at)
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Angeldust The Mob Queen
Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 6498 Location: In your most wonderful, screwed up dreams. :P
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:14 pm |
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I really don't understand going to a political rally of someone you do not support anyway...
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LightningBoy Commodore
Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 1446 Location: Minnesota, U.S.A.
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:29 pm |
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Angeldust wrote: | I just think that it is a sad day in America when someone gets punished for voicing their opinion. |
That's fine, but there's a time and a place for everything, including your freedoms. There's a big difference between voicing your opinion at a proper venue, and voicing it where you know you're going to get an extreme amount of unbridaled resistence. It's stupid to do, he should've written an editorial to a newspaper, or attended an anti-Bush rally, those are proper ways to voice your opinion, venues in which you'll be more respectable.
He was FREE to do what he did, and those in charge of the convention were FREE to throw him out of their party, and his employers were FREE to fire him. Just like how Heinz Kerry was FREE to defend herself, and her critics were FREE to voice thier opinion of her.
FREEdom works more than one way.
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Puck The Texan
Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 5596
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Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:31 pm |
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Angeldust wrote: | I just think that it is a sad day in America when someone gets punished for voicing their opinion. |
He has freedom of speech, and the employer has the right to fire him.
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:31 pm |
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Thats total BS. If the employer liked Kerry, he wouldnt have got fired. Total BS.
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Creeper the sneaker The Creeper
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 1152
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Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:04 pm |
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Okay really weird
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