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Solitary Poet
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 Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:48 pm "WOLF 359" Motion Picture |
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I was thinking about What Star Trek movies could be made and it hit me, What about a "WOLF 359" movie? I know for a fact that at least the Enterprise and Sisko were there! And this was before USS VUYAGER was flung into the Delta Quadrant and Data was axed, so who knows who would be there.The movie could rated [R] and it could bring back the original dark vision and fear that VOY' ruined.
May we could start a petition for a �WOLF 359� motion picture? Its worth a shot-I mean it brought back the original series for a second season and it brought SG-1 for a seventh and eighth season!
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| Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:50 pm |
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I prefer a Dominion war movie but this is a cool idea. Picard evil, a fleet of ships fighting it out with a cube. Although the it was shown on the show what happened, they could make the battle longer and more in-depth. Show what happens with Sisko's ship!
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Jadzia Lenara Dax
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:05 am |
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[moved to future of star trek from GSTD, deals with a future movie idea. jad.]
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Solitary Poet
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:13 am |
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You can move my threads any time you wont, Garbage Queen.
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gilbert3729
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:01 am |
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I dont know much about wolf 359 but is it just one battle? if it is then it's not likely that they would make an entire movie on just one battle, there would need to be more story behind it. But if it ever came out i'd love to see it! 
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Defiant
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:31 am |
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I hate annoying stupid movie ideas. But I think this one actually holds some merit. It is a very intriguing idea, and I think it seriously has potential!!!
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:50 pm |
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I agree, but was the Enterprise at Wolf 359?
And we should develope a plot for
STAR TREK:
WOLF 359
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Ronevick
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:57 pm |
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That would be awesome! Even though there's already First Contact it would still be really cool. 
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sabertooth1217
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:51 pm |
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Its a great Idea, I always thought it was Worf 359 though....
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:18 pm |
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| chakotay99 wrote: | | Its a great Idea, I always thought it was Worf 359 though.... |
Me too C99! I was like why was it named after Worf? 
I voted no only because I would prefer a Dominion war movie. Wolf 359 was cool though. 
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Angeldust
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:36 pm |
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No. All it would be is a bunch of borg killing Starfleet. Who wants to watch that???
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Solitary Poet
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:07 pm |
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I do! Remember, we only saw the aftermath of the battle in that episode, and like I said we need to bring back the fear that the BORG used to instill in us when we were kids!
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Angeldust
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:17 pm |
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I think the Borg has very much lost its charm. The Borg are pretty much all storied out. Even the writers say that.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:43 pm |
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| Angeldust wrote: | | No. All it would be is a bunch of borg killing Starfleet. Who wants to watch that??? |
If we show some courage and stuff it would work.
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Angeldust
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:44 pm |
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But it would be so sad and depressing!! Everyone would leave the theater depressed!! People don't wanna watch movies where the heroes die!
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:47 pm |
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| Angeldust wrote: | | But it would be so sad and depressing!! Everyone would leave the theater depressed!! People don't wanna watch movies where the heroes die! |
And that's why a Dominion War movie would be better.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:50 pm |
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Actually, the perfect Trek movie would be...
STAR TREK: DARK VOYAGE!!! (Both of them!)
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Angeldust
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:44 pm |
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^ You can be adorable sometimes.
I agree about the Dominion War. I don't see it happening, though. They played it out pretty well on DS9.
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Defiant
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| Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:32 pm |
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It could not feature the Enterprise, so it could be everything besides it. Maybe some voices from Picard or something.
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Kuro-chan
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| Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:41 pm |
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It's too bad there is so little canon information about the Battle of Wolf 359, but to summarize things:
The Federation has been enjoying some serious peace time, with the only major problem being the border wars with the Cardassians, but that never really threatened the core of the Federation. All of a sudden, an unstoppable Borg Cube rides through Federation space bent on the assimilation of Earth. Frankly, Starfleet was caught with it's pants down, and did their best to assemble a fleet of 40 ships at Wolf 359 to defend Earth, but it was not enough. 39 of those ships were completely destroyed and the loss of life was estimated at around 11,000.
This battle was nothing short of a total disaster for the Federation who enjoyed too much peace time and not enough preparation against a major foe, like the Borg.
It is uncertain if the Klingons actually participated in the battle. We (The viewers) did not see any klingon debris amongst the Federation ships. despite Admiral Hanson commenting to then Captain Riker that they contacted the Klingon Empire and they were sending warships to help.
A movie before, during and even after the battle could be appealing to Star Trek fans as it would answer a lot of question about what actually happened there (Provided Berman and Braga have nothing to do with the script... :p)
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| Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:04 am |
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YAY! Good idea!!! Then we'd get a better look at these "gorgeous"Freedom Class ships!
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Republican_Man
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| Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:52 am |
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Someone should also make a Wolf 359 RPG! 
Here's some info on the Battle, though:
| Quote: | Battle of Wolf 359
The Battle of Wolf 359 took place in 2367 in the Wolf 359 system, some 8 light-years from Earth, between the forces of the United Federation of Planets and the Borg Collective. It is recorded as one of the most destructive battles in Federation history prior to the Dominion War.
Prelude to Wolf 359
On stardate 43989.1, USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D) arrived at Jouret IV, after contact with the New Providence colony was lost 12 hours earlier. The colony was found to have been completely destroyed, scooped from the planet's surface.
Admiral J.P. Hanson and Lieutenant Commander Shelby of Starfleet Tactical arrived to investigate the disappearance. An away team determined the colony was wiped away by weapons with similarities to a Borg cube encountered by the Enterprise in System J-25 (TNG:"Q Who?"). Starfleet immediately began preparations for a possible Borg invasion.
Admiral Hanson returned to Starbase 324 to discuss strategy with Starfleet Command. Starfleet imposed a fleet-wide standing yellow alert, and warned all Federation and allied outposts. That evening at 1900 hours, USS Lalo departed Zeta Alpha II on a freight run to Sentinel Minor IV. At 2212 hours, Starbase 157 received a signal from the Lalo, reporting contact with a cubical object. The signal was cut off mid-transmission, and no response was received to further hails.
Upon receiving this information from Admiral Hanson, USS Enterprise set course for Lalo's last known location. With Starfleet reinforcements at least six days away, the Enterprise was on her own. Enroute to the coordinates, contact was made with the unknown vessel, a Borg cube. News was relayed to Admiral Hanson, who had begin to assemble a fleet to combat the invasion. The Borg demanded that Enterprise captain, Jean-Luc Picard, beam himself aboard their vessel, for an unspecified purpose. After a brief exchange of fire, the Enterprise retreated into the Paulson Nebula, the Cube close behind.
Hiding in the dust cloud, the Enterprise and her crew prepared for the conflict to come. Attempting to force the starship out, the Borg launched magnetometric-guided charges into the nebula, causing minor damage to the Enterprise. Picard ordered the ship out, and in the ensuing attack, Picard was captured by the Borg, who then left at high warp, en route to Sector 001 and the core of the Federation.
The Cube maintained its course, with the Enterprise in hot pursuit. William Riker, as acting Captain, planed to force the Cube out of warp in order to attack the Cube using the Enterprise's main deflector array. An away team led by Lt. Cmdr. Shelby was sent over to the vessel, and succeeded in disabling the Borg's warp drive. In the process, it is discovered that Captain Picard had been assimilated by the Collective; he had been transformed into a Borg drone called Locutus of Borg. Having temporarily disabled the Cube, the Enterprise launched its deflector weapon.
The Battle
The Cube easily shrugged off the Enterprise's assault, with the unwilling aid of Picard's knowledge, and resumed its course to the Sol system. The Enterprise was forced to stay behind, having suffered extensive damage to its deflector array and warp core. In the meantime, Admiral Hanson and Starfleet Command had hastily assembled a fleet of 40 starships, with more on the way. The Klingon Empire was in the process of dispatching warships to assist, and the possibility of requesting Romulan support was considered.
Around stardate 44002.3, the Cube entered the Wolf 359 system. Locutus hailed the assembled fleet, ordering them to disarm and escort the Cube to the Sol system. Immediately thereafter, the fleet engaged the Borg.
The USS Melbourne was the first ship destroyed, with its saucer section partially vaporized while approaching. The USS Saratoga was quickly neutralized thereafter. When the starships Yamaguchi and Bellerophon rushed to rescue their trapped sister ships, they too were destroyed along with numerous other starships entering the combat zone. (DS9: "Emissary")
After bare minutes of combat, the fleet was faced with utter defeat. Admiral Hanson attempted to rally the remaining ships to launch a last-ditch assault, but his ship was destroyed shortly thereafter, the admiral presumed dead. (TNG: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II")
Ultimately, 39 starships were lost with a total loss of more than 11,000 lives. Many of them were assimilated. Only one starship managed to escape the disaster. (TNG: "The Drumhead")
The Aftermath
Following the battle, the cube resumed course towards Earth, completely undamaged. The Enterprise, having finally completed repairs, raced to catch up to the Borg. Using the recaptured Locutus and his link to the collective mind, the Enterprise crew managed to plant subversive commands to deactivate and destroy the Borg ship in Earth orbit.
Although the outcome of the invasion could have been much worse, the result of the battle was nothing short of disaster. With so many starships assigned to long-range missions of exploration, Starfleet was left with fewer ships for defense duties in the Federation core systems, weakening their relative position with neighboring races, including the Cardassian Union. (TNG: "The Wounded")
Commander Shelby took command of a special task force to rebuild Starfleet's strength. Construction of new starships was accelerated, but it took several years for Starfleet to return to previous deployment levels. Perhaps more importantly, Starfleet's entire philosophy began to tend towards more offensive, combat-ready starships. Previously controversial designs with heavy armaments, such as the Defiant class, gained more support.
Although most of the major battles of the Dominion War seven years later were fought on a much greater scale, Wolf 359 itself will be remembered as the incident that broke decades of near-total peace for the Federation and heralded a tumultuous decade of conflict to come.
Unofficial sources suggest that the USS Endeavour was the ship that escaped the battle intact. Although several lines of dialogue indirectly support this claim, most especially in VGR: "Scorpion, Part I," there is no direct proof.
The Star Trek: Voyager episodes "Unity" and "Infinite Regress" refer to people being assimilated during the battle and subsequently being returned to the Delta Quadrant, perhaps suggesting the presence of an undetected second Borg vessel which returned to Borg territory. In fact, "Infinite Regress" suggests that Seven of Nine personally assimilated at least one of those people. |
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| Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:48 am |
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Hmm yes, please create that petition, I will sign it.
GoPetition.com has great petition hosting facilities, I once hosted my LOTR petition there, months ago.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:46 am |
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Solitary Poet, you started this thread, you should start a petition for it.
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Solitary Poet
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| Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:41 am |
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I�m not exactly sure how. I have never done any thing like this before so I will need help.
Question: Why no Star Trek made for TV movies on UPN?
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