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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 1:29 pm    Homeland Security Threat--VERY Specific

Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge says World Bank and IMF in D.C., Prudential Building in Newark, N.J., and NYSE specifically threatened.

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Terror Threat Level Hiked in N.Y., N.J. and D.C.
Sunday, August 01, 2004

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WASHINGTON � Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge (search) raised the threat alert level Sunday for the financial sectors in Washington, D.C., New York and northern New Jersey.

At a press conference intended to update Americans about protective measures being put into place in response to threats from Al Qaeda (search), Ridge said three targets have been specifically threatened: The World Bank and IMF in Washington, D.C., the Prudential Building in Newark, N.J. and the New York Stock Exchange.

With this kind of information comes action, there is much we can do to be vigilant," Ridge said, asking citizens to be on alert.

Officials said that in the last 24 to 36 hours, intelligence operatives have received very specific information showing that Al Qaeda has done very detailed surveillance on targets

It was not immediately known what intelligence was leading the government to consider such action, officials suggested that Al Qaeda may possibly use car or truck bombs. New York City Police did not comment on any intelligence, but they urged extra security precautions at various city buildings.

Law enforcement officials say that Al Qaeda planned to send terrorists across the Mexican border in to the United States to conduct suicide attacks in the city. The attacks could come between now and Election Day. Republicans are planning their national convention in New York between Aug. 30 and Sept. 2.

New York's status has remained at orange, indicating the second highest risk of terrorist attack, since Sept. 11, 2001, and a change to red would not mean dramatic changes in the city, said a Homeland Security official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. However, a threat on financial institutions could have the impact of depressing stock trades on Wall Street on Monday, allowing terrorists to impact the U.S. economy.

Washington and elsewhere are on yellow alert, or elevated status of risk; that is in the middle of the five-color scale.

A Winding Trail of Terror?

The latest warning appears to be linked to the July arrest in Texas of a Pakistani woman accused of illegally crossing into the United States. Law enforcement accounts indicate she had an altered South African passport along with $7,000 in cash and an airline ticket to New York.

U.S. law enforcement authorities say they believe crime syndicates within the South African government are selling illegal passports for as little as $77 apiece.

The woman, Farida Goolam Mohamed Ahmed, 48, traveled from Johannesburg through Dubai, United Arab Emirates, to London and on to Mexico City. Authorities said she later told them she was smuggled into the United States from Mexico by crossing the Rio Grande.

Authorities say Ahmed's name appeared on an FBI watch list and it surfaced during an investigation of an overseas terrorist incident. Homeland Security officials have warned that Al Qaeda could use women and non-Arabs as operatives to avoid detection.

Rep. Solomon Ortiz, the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Readiness, said "very credible" people told him Ahmed has traveled within the United States more than 250 times.

A senior official at U.S. Border Patrol told Fox News that a culmination of several pieces of information led to the increase. That included the arrest of Ahmed, but she may not be the key to the raised alert, just a complement to data that had already been obtained.

Ahmed's court-appointed attorney said his client is not charged with any terrorist activity and does not have a criminal record. However, she was denied bond on Tuesday.

The U.S.-Mexico border (search) is an area of concern to congressional members as well as U.S. officials. Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., said in the War on Terror, more efforts are needed to reduce vulnerabilities along the border.

"Some progress has been made under border security, but we haven't implemented" enough measures, Biden said. "We shold be focusing on a line that is clearly drawn here on Earth. They relate to borders, they relate to rails, they relate to 101 nuclear power plants that exist and we're doing woefully little on any of those things."

Biden, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Al Qaeda knows all the prime targets it wants to hit in the United States. Ridge has pointed out before that Al Qaeda has to be right or lucky once to carry out an attack, but U.S. officials have a much heavier burden. To prevent an attack, they must be right all the time.

New York City police officials have warned businesses in the city to take extra precautions at work, including checking employee identification cards and updating emergency plans.

It also gave some things to look out for, including unanticipated deliveries or maintenance work, people taking unusual video or photographs, and visitors claiming to be lost or looking disoriented. The warning also said bomb threats may be used to evaluate emergency response time.

Fox News' Kelly Wright and Anna Stolley and The Associated Press contributed to this report.


This is big: It's not just a city--It's telling us of SPECIFIC BUILDINGS!



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U.S. Intel Official Describes Information Leading to Terror Warning
Sunday, August 01, 2004

WASHINGTON � The government provided details Sunday of new intelligence it had obtained that led to the increased threat level against financial institutions, including several specific buildings.

A senior intelligence official described the details only on condition of anonymity. He said it was the most extraordinary detail he had seen in 24 years of intelligence work.

� The flow of pedestrians outside one building � 14 people per minute midweek on each side of the sidewalks, or 28 per minute.

� Information that some explosive materials may not be hot enough to melt the steel underpinnings of a building, and a reference to what materials might heat to 2,700 degrees.

� Suggestions for building reconnaissance, such as a window table at a nearby coffee shop.

� Details about specific security checkpoints inside buildings, including a tidbit that people turned left after passing one checkpoint.

� Places to make contact with building employees.

�Construction of some buildings that might prevent their collapse.


� Locations of police stations, fire departments, schools and hospitals in the vicinity of the targets.

� Changes in day-to-day security, including lessened security on Sundays and days when elevators don't operate.



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PostSun Aug 01, 2004 3:41 pm    

Transcript: Text of Press Conference (Tom Ridge's)

Sunday, August 01, 2004

Text of Sunday's news conference by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, as transcribed by e-Media MillWorks Inc.:

RIDGE: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

President Bush has told you, and I have reiterated the promise, that when we have specific credible information that we will share it. This afternoon we do have new and unusually specific information about where Al Qaeda would like to attack.

And as a result, today the United States government is raising the threat level to Code Orange for the financial services sector in New York City, northern New Jersey and Washington, D.C.

Since September 11, 2001, leaders of our commercial financial institutions have demonstrated exceptional leadership in improving its security. However, in light of new intelligence information, we have made the decision to raise the threat level for this sector in these communities to bring protective resources to an even higher level.

This will allow us to increase protection in and around those buildings that require it and also raise awareness for employees and residents and customers and visitors. We know, and we know from experience, that increased physical protection and added vigilance from citizens can thwart a terrorist attack, and that is our goal.

Now, this is the first time we have chosen to use the Homeland Security Advisory System in such a targeted way. Compared to previous threat reporting, these intelligence reports have provided a level of detail that is very specific.

The quality of this intelligence, based on multiple reporting streams in multiple locations, is rarely seen, and it is alarming in both the amount and specificity of the information. Now, while we are providing you with this immediate information, we will also continue to update you as the situation unfolds.

As of now, this is what we know: Reports indicate that Al Qaeda is targeting several specific buildings, including the International Monetary Fund and World Bank in the District of Columbia, Prudential Financial in northern New Jersey, and Citigroup buildings and the New York Stock Exchange in New York.

Let me assure you -- let me reassure you, actions to further strengthen security around these buildings are already under way. Additionally, we're concerned about targets beyond these and are working to get more information about them.

Now, senior leadership across the Department of Homeland Security, in coordination with the White House, the CIA, the FBI and other federal agencies have been in constant contact with the governors, the mayors and the homeland security advisers of the affected locations I've just named.

We've talked with executive leadership of the companies that own these businesses and operate these buildings, the people who know these facilities best. We have told them at this time there is no information that indicates a specific time for these attacks beyond the period leading up to our national elections.

Though of course just because we know where but not precisely when, that does not mean that we cannot take pre-emptive action. Just the opposite. When collection activities provide specific information, we can tailor security measures to the particular vulnerabilities of those potential targets.

Now, understandably, security measures at each facility will not be uniform in nature, given the scope and the scale of building architecture, access to and from roads and other variables. And certainly we will not broadcast our security intentions to our enemies.

But you may expect to see special buffer zones to secure the perimeter of the buildings from unauthorized cars and trucks, restrictions to affect underground parking, security personnel using identification badges and digital photos to keep track of people entering and exiting buildings, increased law enforcement presence, even more robust screening of vehicles and packages and deliveries.

These and other security measures, both seen and unseen, create added layers of protection to an already vigorous security effort around this country.

So let me be clear. While we have raised the threat level for the financial services sector in the affected communities, the rest of the nation remains at an elevated or code yellow risk of terrorist attack.

Rest assured, rest assured that the most talented security professionals and law enforcement professionals around this country are working hard every single day to protect all regions of this country and all sectors of our economy.

Over the course of the last year, and since the horrific day of 9/11, more permanent protections are in place than ever before. I suspect that many of you have seen them. They have become part of our daily life: additional airport security, including screenings and air marshals and hardened cockpit doors.

You've seen more visible law enforcement officers on trains and subways and other transportation systems. You've seen increased inspections at our nation's ports or at our border crossings. And this summer, given the volume of symbolic events and large gatherings, we have ramped up protective measures more than ever before. And we paint a partial picture.

Thousands of radiological pagers have been given to law enforcement around the country and more are on the way. At work are more hazmat technicians, undercover agents and emergency response teams, and more K-9 units capable of detecting explosives and weapons of mass destruction, advanced air-monitoring technologies that can check for biological pathogens are operating in key locations. Well, along with smart security professionals, these technologies help bring the national Democratic Convention to a safe conclusion.

State-of-the-art equipment like this is now being installed to protect the Republican National Convention in New York later this year.

This equipment and added personnel will bolster security measures already being put in place at Madison Square Garden and throughout the transportation systems in New York City.

These added security measures mean that from curb to the cockpit, at our ports of entries and borders in between, in our public places, in cyberspace, on air and land and sea, we are better protected than we ever have been before.

We bring you this information today, and again we'll continue to update you if new specific information becomes available, because with this kind of information comes action. There is much we can do to remain vigilant, to be on watch, to be aware of unusual patterns or vehicles, and to report suspicious activities.

And so this afternoon I ask our citizens for their watchful eyes as we continue to monitor this situation. I certainly realize that this is sobering news, not just about the intent of our enemies, but of their specific plans and a glimpse into their methods.

But we must understand that the kind of information available to us today is the result of the president's leadership in the war against terror, the reports that have led to this alert are the result of offensive intelligence and military operations overseas, as well as strong partnerships with our allies around the world, such as Pakistan.

Such operations and partnerships give us insight into the enemy, so we can better target our defensive measures here and away from home.

The terrorists should know in this country this kind of information, while startling, is not stifling. It will not weaken the American spirit. It will not dampen our resolve, for our resolve is indivisible and unyielding, which is a weapon infinitely stronger than the plots and the plans of those who wish to do us harm.

Al Qaeda wants to intimidate us and prevent us from enjoying our lives and exercising our freedoms. And yet liberty, liberty has no greater protection than the collective will of the American people. So, together, let us take inspiration from this strength and use it to our utmost to keep our great nation safe and free.

Thank you very much.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, would you say it's fair to say that what has been uncovered here is a specific plot?

I think it's fair to say that we have more specific information about potential targets that I think you can conclude may be the subject of a particular plot.

Again, what is extraordinary about these particular sites is the considerable detail or quality of information regarding those sites. So, again, we have no specific information that says an attack is imminent, but given the specificity and quality of information around these sites, obviously one would conclude, if you were considering the potential attack, these might be among the targets.

QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) how the apprehension of the woman with the South African passport in Texas factored into this? Was she a catalyst in the threat reporting you're talking about?

RIDGE: Well, first of all, that investigation is still ongoing. The FBI is doing a great job of following it, but to date, based on what we know in that investigation, there's no connection between that individual who was apprehended at the border to the information and the targeting that I've discussed with you this afternoon.

Yes?

QUESTION: Mr. Defense Secretary, does the intelligence indicate basically physical threats against these institutions or electronic attack to screw-up or fuzz-bust, whatever you want to say, electronics commerce among the financial sector?

RIDGE: I think when we look at the infrastructure protection, there are three concerns we would have: the physical destruction, the cyberinvolvement or perhaps those inside might cause damage or destruction.

The analytical piece that's associated with this would suggest that based on what we have gleaned so far, the preferred method of attack or what's being suggested in the reporting is car and truck bombs -- the physical destruction or attempted physical destruction of these facilities.

Yes?

QUESTION: Do any of the these security measures portend a disruption inadvertent of the financial markets or any (inaudible) prevention of destruction? Will they be transparent to traders and those involved in the markets?

RIDGE: I think, I'm not quite sure I understand the question, but let me try to answer it this way. These are significant institutions that relate to our leadership role in the international economy, but to a certain extent, it's really not the destruction of a single building will not undermine the greatest and strongest economy in the world. So to a certain extent, they're almost iconic.

They're visible targets perhaps known around the rest of the world.

But the fact of the matter is, as I said before, the financial services industry since 9/11 has built in systems of protection, and protection of the systems that help regulate and help control the equity markets, the flow of currency in and around the entire world.

Yes?

QUESTION: Can you talk a little bit more about the nature of the intelligence? You said specific, credible and multiple sources. Is it coming from interrogations, the Internet, interceptions?

RIDGE: I will just -- I will tell you that -- just to stay consistent with what I said before, multiple locations, multiple sources, and you can read into that, because of -- again, I think it's very important to point out that most of those sources are related to the extraordinary offensive effort we have taken overseas.

Playing strong offense overseas, in many different ways, the military, the CIA, the partnerships, our global partners, gives us a capability to prepare better defense back home.

Yes?

QUESTION: Were the recent arrests in Pakistan a key contributing factor to the information flow that you're getting now?

RIDGE: Well, we will not comment on the specific sources, but let me just go back again and say the coalition that we have built, and the alliances we have built, have been instrumental and very much a part of our intelligence-gathering operation.

Yes?

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, what are you advising the people who work at these businesses to do? Tomorrow is a workday. Should they go to work? Should they stay away?

RIDGE: We have talked to the security professionals at those buildings and the leadership, and I think the employees most appropriately would get guidance from their employer.

I would like to think, as sobering and as difficult as this news is, and the kind of anxiety that it would generate, that the folks that work at those particular sites or stroll through the neighborhood, through those streets, would have the resolve and maybe a little bit of defiance to say, "Well, we know what you know. And we're going to go about leading our lives. We're not going to let threats or this kind of information turning into fortress America. We're going to keep on being America."

Yes?

QUESTION: Secretary Ridge, related to the targets in New York City, do you have any information that would connect this plot to the pre-election threats you talked about, or more specifically, the upcoming Republican Convention in New York City?

RIDGE: The consistent reporting stream -- and I think it was back on July 8 when we had a press conference here where we talked about several sources that generally had discussed the possibility of attacking us to try to undermine our democratic process. And I think one could reasonably infer that this could be part of that effort.

But I don't think you necessarily should put a time frame around when these targets, if they were ultimately the subject of an attack, would be attacked. I mean, given the specificity of the information, you've got to appreciate that and consider that in light of the broader general threat to try to disrupt the democratic process.

But I don't think you can conclude that it's framed in that fashion, and I think I'll let on background some of the intelligence folks explain it in greater detail.

QUESTION: Do you have any reason to think that other financial centers like Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles are at higher risk now than they were?

RIDGE: At this juncture, the answer is no. But I also have to reiterate the fact that there are multiple sources. And we're doing everything we can to analyze the information. And if we would have the same kind and quality of information as I've told over 200 people in a conference call that I had just before we came here -- a lot of the homeland security advisers and those from around the country -- we would share it with them in the same fashion.

QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, I thought that New York was already on an orange alert level. So are they now, the financial institutions, going to red, the highest?

RIDGE: I think you're right in saying that historically New York maintains, sustains a general higher level of alert and vigilance than most cities. I think if you asked Commissioner Kelly and Mayor Bloomberg, they would say, "We have the highest level of vigilance, and the highest level of awareness and the highest level of security."

On top of that, they'll be working particularly with the companies that own these specific locations, reviewing the vulnerabilities, taking a look at what additional protective measures they should put or could put in place, given the reporting.

So I don't think they're necessarily going to take...

(CROSSTALK)

RIDGE: You would have to ask Commissioner Kelly. I don't think he's necessarily going to take the city up. The level of security in New York City is not only higher -- they call their level now orange.

But remember, for the past couple of months, an administration-wide effort has taken place. And a lot of those initiatives are in addition to what New York puts in place permanently.



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PostMon Aug 02, 2004 12:22 am    

We get threats every week one week its malls, the next is bridges, the next is boats come on I mean I used to be worried but nothing is happening.


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PostMon Aug 02, 2004 1:51 am    

What!? How can you say that? First Democrats say Bush knew about the attack on 9/11 and did nothing. Now your saying since we know of possible attacks we should do nothing? Hypocrisy at its best.

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PostMon Aug 02, 2004 8:35 am    

..... you missread what I said.... what I meant is every week we get some kind of threat how are we spose to know whats real and what isn't? I'm still waiting for that threat last year where they said terriost is going to blow up the space needle.


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PostMon Aug 02, 2004 11:28 am    

The problem is that a lot of the threats are real, but as the public have been told about them, the terrorists won't attack as they know 1) The public know and would try and stop anything happening if they saw something suspicious and 2) the government have found out so will guard the targets more closely. What you have to worry about is when there isn't a proper threat as any plots haven't been found out.

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PostMon Aug 02, 2004 12:18 pm    

Jeff Miller wrote:
We get threats every week one week its malls, the next is bridges, the next is boats come on I mean I used to be worried but nothing is happening.


Of course, and let's hope nothing happens again...
However, we HAVE to act on such a definitive, scarey threat.

Founder wrote:
What!? How can you say that? First Democrats say Bush knew about the attack on 9/11 and did nothing. Now your saying since we know of possible attacks we should do nothing? Hypocrisy at its best.


Agreed.
And you know what? Democrats are now saying that Bush is using this as a political ploy--heck, CNN had that as a television phone-call question. CNN had that!

Jeff Miller wrote:
..... you missread what I said.... what I meant is every week we get some kind of threat how are we spose to know whats real and what isn't? I'm still waiting for that threat last year where they said terriost is going to blow up the space needle.


Well of course, but you HAVE to act on this threat, ESPECIALLY when it's so definitive. And I don't remember the space needle thing. It was probably when I could care less about politics and stuff like that.

Jeremy wrote:
The problem is that a lot of the threats are real, but as the public have been told about them, the terrorists won't attack as they know 1) The public know and would try and stop anything happening if they saw something suspicious and 2) the government have found out so will guard the targets more closely. What you have to worry about is when there isn't a proper threat as any plots haven't been found out.


1. The terrorists probably will continue the attack threat, but you are right: if the people know about it, the better
2. Yes, the public would do anything to stop it, which is good
3. Yes, the government will be more secure with their defenses
4. That does NOT mean that we shouldn't take action.
5. It's an attack on the ECONOMY, which would hurt us worse than any where else, however it wouldn't do much damage considering that we have the best economy in the world.
6. This IS the proper threat to react to--it's VERY specific, at least as to the targets.



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PostMon Aug 02, 2004 5:01 pm    

Guess what? Howard Dean, the one who advanced the theory that Bush knew about 9/11 and did nothing about it, is now saying that Bush had Ridge make this announcement for political gain and that there's politics behind it. These are radical accusations from a leader in the Democratic Party and a former Presidential Candidate.


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PostThu Aug 05, 2004 6:38 pm    

So what do you all think about Dean's statement?
It's wrong, correct?



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PostFri Aug 06, 2004 12:23 am    

I think its wrong i dont think giveing the people fake threats would even be seen even as some sort of sick and twistred last resort lie for political gain. as for the so many threats and nothin happening thats because we knew about it in time to take action to prevent them from even attempting to go thru with it.

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PostFri Aug 06, 2004 10:15 pm    

You know your country has forgotten 9/11 when the latest poll stats on CNN read:

Which is the more important issue for you in the presidential election?

Economy 66% 26869 votes

Terrorism 34% 13703 votes


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PostSat Aug 07, 2004 4:30 pm    

JanewayIsHott wrote:
You know your country has forgotten 9/11 when the latest poll stats on CNN read:

Which is the more important issue for you in the presidential election?

Economy 66% 26869 votes

Terrorism 34% 13703 votes


Agreed.
And also you can see this when people are saying that the President is doing so many things to do with Terrorism as "doing it for political gain."



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PostSat Aug 07, 2004 5:29 pm    

In some ways I agree with the point that you are making, but it should not be remembered all the time as thats what the terrorists want. They want people to be scared and unsure.

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