| Apologize? |
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15% |
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| Unsure |
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0% |
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| Other (Explain what you think) |
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7% |
[ 1 ] |
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Jeff Miller
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 Wed May 05, 2004 7:45 pm A plain simple poll |
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Should Bush apologize to the Arab world for the Iraq prison abuses?
post what you vote also.
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LightningBoy
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| Wed May 05, 2004 9:24 pm |
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Why should he apologize for the actions of a few screw looses?
I don't care what demographic of people they are, if you take 1000 people, one of 'em is gonna be a sicko. Arabs need to realise that.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed May 05, 2004 9:44 pm |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | Why should he apologize for the actions of a few screw looses?
I don't care what demographic of people they are, if you take 1000 people, one of 'em is gonna be a sicko. Arabs need to realise that. |
I am in agreement.
Those were just a few idiots who should be punished severely, but Bush does NOT have to appologize for their actions.
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Puck
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| Wed May 05, 2004 9:47 pm |
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He very much should apologize for the actions of these "soldiers". He should apologize and make it clear that they will be punished, investigations will check for more abuse scandals, and that the American people find this act disgraceful, immoral, disgusting, and purly un-American. These soldiers undid much of the little trust that we have with the Arab world......just a few soldiers did so much damage.
++Bush is the Commander in Chief of these troops, he should apologize for his troops actions.
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Republican_Man
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| Wed May 05, 2004 9:49 pm |
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| JanewayIsHott wrote: | | He very much should apologize for the actions of these "soldiers". He should apologize and make it clear that they will be punished, investigations will check for more abuse scandals, and that the American people find this act disgraceful, immoral, disgusting, and purly un-American. These soldiers undid much of the little trust that we have with the Arab world......just a few soldiers did so much damage. |
You make a good point. He SHOULD appologize. I change my vote because if he does not, then the radical Iraqi leaders will use these acts to their advantage. Please disregard the vote for "Other" and count it towards "Yes."
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Leo Wyatt
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| Wed May 05, 2004 10:54 pm |
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Well it is not Bush fought what the soldiers did. They was responsible for their own actions. But Bush should apologize anyway to make it clear they will be punished for it. We are there to help not harm. I voted no before I read. But I am still Bush supporter.
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Jeff Miller
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| Thu May 06, 2004 12:02 am |
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I think he should if for no other reason he is the leader of our country and it is good for PR if he does.
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Oliver
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| Thu May 06, 2004 1:44 am |
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| LightningBoy wrote: | | Why should he apologize for the actions of a few screw looses? |
Because the title of the president is not a person, being a president means you become a function. And one the the functions of the president is being the commanding officer of the army. This implies that the president has to take full responsibility for the soldier's actions.
Those soldiers should be punished nonetheless, but the president should appologize.
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Theresa
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| Thu May 06, 2004 6:55 am |
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So in that case, the Iraqi "government" should apologize for the brutal killing of civilians. It amazes me how quickly that was forgotten. What was done was horrendous, yes, but pales in comparison. Prisoners were embarrassed and scared *beep*, and the soldiers should be punished, yes. But let's put things in perspective.
And it certainly didn't harm anything, Bush apologizing. Nor did it make him appear weak.
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Kyre
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| Thu May 06, 2004 7:13 am |
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Doesn't matter what he does anymore. Those chaps in the Middle East have already made up their minds.
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Oliver
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| Thu May 06, 2004 7:14 am |
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| Theresa wrote: | | So in that case, the Iraqi "government" should apologize for the brutal killing of civilians. |
Of course they should apologize, and for the same reasons.
| Theresa wrote: | | It amazes me how quickly that was forgotten. |
It's not forgotten at all. This topic is about whether or not Bush should apologize. If this was a topic about whether or not the Iraqi "government" should apologize, then my answer would still remain the same.
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Theresa
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| Thu May 06, 2004 7:21 am |
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Sorry, let me clarify. I didn't specifically mean here. Just in general. The American media has been showing these pictures day after day, and never once is their a mention of the brutal killings. Our media has either lost perspective, or, IMO, never really had it.
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Pah-Wraith
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| Thu May 06, 2004 12:46 pm |
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| Theresa wrote: | | So in that case, the Iraqi "government" should apologize for the brutal killing of civilians. It amazes me how quickly that was forgotten. What was done was horrendous, yes, but pales in comparison. |
I agree with what you are saying but the Baathist Government has never been democratic in anyway, and Civilians didn't have a choice under Saddam's Iron Fist Regime. The Bush Admin on the other hand represent a Country which is considered to be a Prime Example of Capitalist Democracy and therefore I believe an Apology directly from Bush should have been given despite the fact that the Soldiersin question were in a very small minority.
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Puck
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| Thu May 06, 2004 6:17 pm |
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He issued an apology statement earlier today, and also publicly criticized Donald Rumsfeld. He I think, needs to get out, I do not like how he has handled practically anything, I also think he has alterior, or personal motives for some of his actions.
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Republican_Man
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| Thu May 06, 2004 8:28 pm |
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For the most part, I like Rumsfeld. He's done a good job. This, on the other hand, is NOT a good thing.
And at least justice will be served.
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