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borgslayer Rear Admiral
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 2646 Location: Las Vegas
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Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:52 pm Warp and Impluse Speeds |
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Impluse Light - 100,000mph
Impluse Medium - 500,000mph
Impluse Full - 1,000,000mph
Warp 1 - 5,000,000mph
Warp 2 - 10,000,000mph
Warp 3 - 20,000,000mph
Warp 4 - 30,000,000mph
Warp 5 - 40,000,000mph
Warp 6 - 50,000,000mph
Warp 7 - 100,000,000mph
Warp 8 - 150,000,000mph
Warp 9 - 200,000,000mph
As you can see it is not accurate but that is how it should look like.
Since it takes many light years to get from planet earth to a planet like klingon, then it is only right that they go super fast.
If the ships went any slower it would take years to get to klingon homeworld instead of hours....
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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:09 am |
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Actually, that's way off.
The speed of light is 186000 miles PER SECOND.
You have warp 9 labeled as 200000000 (200 million) miles per hour, when in fact light moves at about 669 million miles per hour (186000 mi/sec)(60 sec/min)(60 min/hour) = 669000000.
So, by what you have there, it says Warp 9 is just under 1/3 the speed of light.
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Tsuki no Hikari Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 41
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Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:19 am |
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Light/Warp 1 Barrier - 669,600,000 mph
Warp 2 - 6,696,000,000 mph
Warp 3 - 26,114,400,000 mph
Warp 4 - 68,299,200,000 mph
Warp 5 - 143,294,400,000 mph
Warp 6 - 262,483,200,000 mph
Warp 7 - 439,257,600,000 mph
Warp 8 - 685,670,400,000 mph
Warp 9 - 1,015,113,600,000 mph
Warp 9.9 - 2,044,288,800,000 mph
Warp 9.999 - 17,119,663,200,000 mph
Warp 9.9999 - 133,595,913,600,000 mph
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thanley Sophomore Cadet
Joined: 16 Mar 2004 Posts: 12 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:49 pm |
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In VOYAGER, Caretaker, it was stated that it would take 70 years to travel 70,000 light years at warp 9.
In ENTERPRISE, it would take the Enterprise NX01 six months to travel 50 light years at warp 5.
Information from startrek.com dictated that warp speed is computed geometrically until warp 9 and exponentially at warp 9.1, 9.2 etc
Using these statistics, I came up with the following scale
WARP 1 = speed of light
WARP 2 = 2 x 80 x speed of light
WARP 3 = 3 x 80 x speed of light
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WARP 9 = 9 x 80 x speed of light.
WARP 9.1 = (9 + 1) x 80 x speed of light
WARP 9.2 = (9 + 2) x 80 x speed of light
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WARP 9.9 = (9 + 9) x 80 x speed of light
WARP 9.91 = (9 + 9 + 1) x 80 x speed of light
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WARP 9.991 = (9 + 9 + 9 + 1) x 80 x speed of light
etc.
This way, Warp 10 can be denoted as infinite velocity
WARP (9.99999 ........) = (9 + 9 + 9 + 9 + ..........) infinity
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Tsuki no Hikari Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 41
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Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:16 pm |
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Sorry to say, but your numbers are quite flawed. They're kinda close to the original scale, but they're still off. Warp 9 in the original is 721xc, warp 8 is 512xc.
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Dax Orien Helmsman
Joined: 24 Aug 2001 Posts: 856 Location: My own little hell.
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Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:17 am |
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It seems like there is tremendous controversy about this subject. Does anyone truly know the actual numbers by which warp is ranked? I'm courious as to what they are, myself. So, please, if anyone does know for sure, post it here. We're all dying to know.
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Monkey Captain
Joined: 05 Feb 2004 Posts: 833 Location: On a quest you probably wouldn't believe.
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Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:56 pm |
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You guys are all wrong this chart shows the speeds in miles a year if you want them in mph form ctrl-c divide by 365 divide by 24 multiply by 60.
Warp 1=97,761,600,000
Warp 2=984,459,312,000
Warp 3=3,806,934,465,600
Warp 4=9,931,600,944,000
Warp 5=20,896,542,000,000
Warp 6=38,371,428,000,000
Warp 7=64,144,318,608,000
Warp 8=100,107,878,400,000
Warp 9=148,245,690,240,000
Warp 9.2=161,208,878,400,000
Warp 9.6=186,626,894,400,000
Warp 9.9=298,466,164,800,000
Warp 9.99=773,489,779,200,000
Now dig this.
Warp 9.9999=19,505,003,385,600,000
And these are how Gene Roddenberry proclaimed them so there
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John Connor Admiral of the Terran Empire
Joined: 07 Sep 2002 Posts: 15657 Location: I.S.S Emperor
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Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:50 pm |
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Well, all of this is sure is really fast. I cant even run that fast.
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EnsignParis Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 07 Sep 2001 Posts: 257
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Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:50 pm |
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Dax Orien wrote: | It seems like there is tremendous controversy about this subject. Does anyone truly know the actual numbers by which warp is ranked? I'm courious as to what they are, myself. So, please, if anyone does know for sure, post it here. We're all dying to know. |
All I know is that 200 million mph for warp 9 is wrong. Warp 9 is quite a bit faster than lightspeed, and 200 million is significantly slower than light. It's the about relative difference between moving at 30 mph and 90 mph.
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Tsuki no Hikari Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 41
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Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:57 pm |
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I believe the data I gave is correct. I got it from the Daystrom Institute Technical Library, and the information in there seems quite reliable. One thing's for sure, warp 1 is NOT 150x light speed.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:50 am |
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Warp 9.975 is roughly 4 billion miles per second (mentioned by tom paris in 'the 37's')
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Tsuki no Hikari Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 12 Feb 2002 Posts: 41
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:21 am |
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Makes perfect sense there. 4 billion per second is about 14,400,000,000,000 per hour, which is just under the speed for warp 9.999. ^_^
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Hyper Ensign
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 60 Location: UK
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Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:09 pm |
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Somewhere outthere is the equation for the exponential graph that is the derivatives for warp speed values. You know the thing Y=x^3 etc. So what is it? Y=???
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:27 pm |
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Ah yes i know the equasion ur talking about:
For ideal conditions, such as are found in interstellar space, the speeds of TNG warp factors are calculated using either of two formulae :
Up to Warp 9 :
V/c = WF(10/3)
Which is very similar to the Cochrane Scale. Beyond Warp 9 the formula becomes somewhat more complex. It is best approximated by :
V/c = WF[{(10/3)+a*(-Ln(10-WF))^n}+f1*((WF-9)^5)+f2*((WF-9)^11)]
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Hyper Ensign
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 60 Location: UK
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Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:39 pm |
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No, if warp 10 is infinite velocity and warp 1 is lightspeed, y(velocity)=x(warp factor)*c(warp conversion constant). You should then get a graph which looks similar to y=x^2.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 4081 Location: England
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Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:23 pm |
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What i posted was taken from www.ditl.org
i didn't make it up.
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Hyper Ensign
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 60 Location: UK
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Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:29 pm |
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I'm not saying you were making it up. I'm just trying to say what I wanted. The whole thing is rubbish anyway. I mean anyone with any sense would have warp 10 ten times faster than warp 1 and infinite veolcity would be, you've guessed it, infinite velocity! I mean linear equations are things people can visualise and utilise. Exponetials are not, unless you are a maths professor, but I still reckon linear equations would be more straight forward!
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Slinzer Freshman Cadet
Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 7 Location: USS Kiruna
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Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:00 pm |
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What i know warp 9 is something like 699000 times the speed of light....
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Robsladey Commodore
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 1215 Location: Sickbay
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Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:34 am |
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All I know is that according to the encyclopedia Warp 10 would be being everywhere at once.
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voyager123456789 Lieutenant
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 175 Location: Alpha Quardrant
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Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:50 am |
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Hmm... can anybody tell me the actual speed of Warp 10? Actually,warp ten has no maximum speed.(i THINK)
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Sevenofninenz Commodore
Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 2441 Location: New Zealand Penal Colony
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Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:28 pm |
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all these numbers have just confused me. I always thought that Warp 1 was c but oh well, i seemed to be wrong
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datalore3 Lieutenant
Joined: 30 May 2003 Posts: 211 Location: Home home on the range......
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:11 pm |
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you say tomato i say tomoto lol
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Five - seveN Rear Admiral
Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 3567 Location: Shadow Moon
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:32 am |
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voyager123456789 wrote: | Hmm... can anybody tell me the actual speed of Warp 10? Actually,warp ten has no maximum speed.(i THINK) |
Well Warp 10 is an infinite speed. It might be difficult to imagine but it means u are everywhere in the universe at once. But it also uses infinite power and could thus never be reached.
Sevenofninenz wrote: | all these numbers have just confused me. I always thought that Warp 1 was c but oh well, i seemed to be wrong |
According to the TNG Tech Manual you're right.
The TNG Tech Manual includes a Warp speed graph in which the warp speeds are as following(c is lightspeed):
Warp 1: 1c
Warp 2: 10c
Warp 3: 39c
Warp 4: 102c
Warp 5: 214c
Warp 6: 392c
Warp 7: 656c
Warp 8: 1024c
Warp 9: 1516c
And Warp 10 is infinite, but the weird thing about this is, you can just go to Warp 9.9999999999999999999999~infinite, still not travelling infinitely fast. This would use loads of power though.
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EnsignChris Freshman Cadet
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 8 Location: England
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Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:10 am |
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how can warp 10 be infinite velocity ? in voyager tom paris has been at warp 10 and he wasnt everywhere in the universe at once !
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Mustkillbret Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 2945 Location: Here and There, Mostly There
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Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:07 am |
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EnsignChris wrote: | how can warp 10 be infinite velocity ? in voyager tom paris has been at warp 10 and he wasnt everywhere in the universe at once ! |
*ahem*that episode is best ignored, plus, he was everywhere in the universe at once....
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