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~Voyager Fan~
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 Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:33 am Would u think that it will be like startfleet by 2700? |
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well i hope so, although we will not live that long
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lionhead
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| Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:58 am |
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2700? Thats a long way to go you know. I hope it happens sooner.
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Sevensquare
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Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 35
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| Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:12 pm |
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I think the question is hypothetical. After all Voyager suppose to be tbe 24 century. According to how things are advancing now we will probably just make it out to the stars by 2700. Who knows how long it may take to start zooming around the galaxy. 
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Monkey
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Joined: 05 Feb 2004
Posts: 833
Location: On a quest you probably wouldn't believe.
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| Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:39 am |
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I doubt it.
If we're going to try to keep up with the Star Trek time-line, we have 57 years to get to FTL speeds.
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Founder
Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Posts: 12755
Location: Gamma Quadrant
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| Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:31 pm Re: Would u think that it will be like startfleet by 2700? |
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| ~Voyager Fan~ wrote: | | well i hope so, although we will not live that long |
| Sevensquare wrote: | | I think the question is hypothetical. After all Voyager suppose to be tbe 24 century. According to how things are advancing now we will probably just make it out to the stars by 2700. Who knows how long it may take to start zooming around the galaxy. |
Oh gee. "...your faith in us remains a source of personal inspiration."-Ghost.
Thanks for the vote of confidence you two...
Anywho...
| Monkey wrote: | I doubt it.
If we're going to try to keep up with the Star Trek time-line, we have 57 years to get to FTL speeds. |
Nope, too late. We'll never live the Star Trek time line.
A) Most important, it isn't real. Its a show.
B) The Eugenics war was in the 90s. Unless I was REALLY out of the loop, that didn't happen. It's too late. We won't live the ST time line.
I wouldn't want to live it anyways to be honest. Unless the Dominion turned out to be real, but to be honest, I'd probably join them. 
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Leo Wyatt
Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004
Posts: 19045
Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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| Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:59 pm |
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Ye of little faith!  Come on now get into the star trek spirit! It could happen one day if we come up with the tech... 
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Dracojastin
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 May 2006
Posts: 102
Location: Holodeck 2 NL
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| Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:19 pm |
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Wasn't the starship relativity from around that timeframe...
Well i don't think time travel is possible and stuf..
But the space thing as warp and stuff.. we are on our way...
Ion drive is being perfected as we speak.
There are numerous researches on FTL/subspace/nuclear fusion etc...
All things that will help us to discover new things...
And i personal think they will be discoverd by accident and thing will go wrong.
And i sure doubt the fact that the whole federation thing could be real... It's highly unlikely. As star trek always suggest we are a species who like to explore... but also who are greedy ignorent etc... so that will definatly stand in our way...
But i sure hope there will be something like the federation....
Cause i want a orion slave chick
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Aphothis
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 105
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| Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:11 pm |
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| Quote: | | Ion drive is being perfected as we speak |
Although this is correct the last time I checked the ion drive propulsion thingy was something like 10x faster than chemical propulsion (I might be wrong) but if I am right then thats still pretty slow. Also it is a steady speed and I think thats how it is better than chemical because its a steady speed and doesn't fluctuate as much.
I will read up on FTL/Subspace and Nuclear Fusion but I don't hold out high hopes. I one of the world leaders can't even properly say the word (Bush) so our chancs are slim lol. Its a shame I am young and would love to travel the stars but the odds are against me, A bit like time.
What I am saying here might be a load of bull plop but I am almost sure they are right.
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Dracojastin
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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| Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:00 pm |
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Well Bush isnt gonna invent FTL or something like that...
I think it will be Japan who will break trough with those great inventions.
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lionhead
Rear Admiral
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| Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:10 am |
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Or europe.
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Dracojastin
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| Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:10 pm |
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I think Japan is more technical advanced than europe... But wich country would invent it then lionhead?
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Aphothis
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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| Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:45 pm |
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I personally would guess at Germany or England.
England has some good universities but from what I know they focus on Biology and cloning. Germany I don't know why but they stick out in my mind. I am eager to hear Lionheads opinions.
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Lord Borg
Fleet Admiral
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Posts: 11214
Location: Vulcan Capital City, Vulcan
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| Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:44 pm |
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Well, perhaps it could be nicer and several countrys working together does so, but who knows what humans will be like by 2700 (If we haven't destroyed our selves, first) In many other sci-fi productions that take place in trek years, there IS no FTL travel...that's not to say it's not possible (They said the same, about breaking the sound barrier) it just will take many generations to most likely.
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Aphothis
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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| Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:51 pm |
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I heard warp speed and wormhole creation may be possible.
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| Quote: | The warp in space-time makes it possible for an object to go FTL while remaining on a time-like curve. The main catch is the same one that may stop us making large wormholes. To make it you would need exotic matter with negative energy density
Even if such exotic matter can exist it is not clear how it could be deployed to make the warp drive work.
ref M. Alcubierre, Classical and Quantum Gravity, 11, L73-L77, (1994). |
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html#21
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Voyager2004
Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004
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Location: Silverdale, WA
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| Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:34 pm |
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| Dracojastin wrote: | Wasn't the starship relativity from around that timeframe...
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No, the Timeship "Relativity" was from the 29th century...so from about the year 3000.
| aphothis wrote: | | I one of the world leaders can't even properly say the word (Bush) |
Don't get me started on this!
1st - I'd like to see you step up and lead this country...
2nd - it doesn't matter how you say it...he's still an extremely smart man. I'm in the freakin' Navy, and there are TONS of people on my boat (yes boat, I'm on submarines, not surface ships...) and there are tons of people that say it JUST LIKE the PRESIDENT! I mean, we're talking officers say it like him, my LPO says it like him, someone in my same paygrade says it like him...So get over the fact that he pronounces it incorrectly...
BTW...I'm not upset...it just irks me when people criticize the man for pronouncing one word incorrectly...
LOL...Sorry, totally off topic but it just bugs me....
I think that FTL propulsion would be created before tne 2700's...maybe not exactly about the same time, but at the same time, I would like to have high hopes that it's possible...
I still say that I was born in the wrong century...about 400 years early...Haha...
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Dracojastin
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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Location: Holodeck 2 NL
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| Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:20 am |
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| Voyager2004 wrote: | | Dracojastin wrote: | Wasn't the starship relativity from around that timeframe...
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No, the Timeship "Relativity" was from the 29th century...so from about the year 3000.
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Well i checked it and you're right but the 29th century is 2800-2900 and not from about the year 3000
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Voyager2004
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| Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:54 pm |
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oh, haha...my bad...I can't believe I made that obvious of a mistake! LOL...you're right 29th century is 2800-2900...lol...I can't believe I did that! LOL 
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Dracojastin
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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Posts: 102
Location: Holodeck 2 NL
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| Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:26 am |
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Must be the hot weather... It's playing tricks on everyone
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Voyager2004
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Location: Silverdale, WA
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| Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:41 am |
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haha...well it's not very hot here in WA...
But I wish I could just do a time transport to the future...and find the particular era that I wished to live in...it would be cool...living with TRUE Trekkies...haha...
But ya, I think we could reach that state of development...it's just gonna take a while
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Dracojastin
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
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| Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:15 pm |
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If you find that time transport give me a call cause i can't wait either...
Would take at least over my lifetime. So be sure to give me that ride
And in hollands it's about 30 degrees. (86 F)
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~Voyager Fan~
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:15 pm |
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Do u know that they wanna make st techo come true?
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~Voyager Fan~
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| Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:20 pm Re: Would u think that it will be like startfleet by 2700? |
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| Founder wrote: | | ~Voyager Fan~ wrote: | | well i hope so, although we will not live that long |
| Sevensquare wrote: | | I think the question is hypothetical. After all Voyager suppose to be tbe 24 century. According to how things are advancing now we will probably just make it out to the stars by 2700. Who knows how long it may take to start zooming around the galaxy. |
Oh gee. "...your faith in us remains a source of personal inspiration."-Ghost.
Thanks for the vote of confidence you two...
Anywho...
| Monkey wrote: | I doubt it.
If we're going to try to keep up with the Star Trek time-line, we have 57 years to get to FTL speeds. |
Nope, too late. We'll never live the Star Trek time line.
A) Most important, it isn't real. Its a show.
B) The Eugenics war was in the 90s. Unless I was REALLY out of the loop, that didn't happen. It's too late. We won't live the ST time line.
I wouldn't want to live it anyways to be honest. Unless the Dominion turned out to be real, but to be honest, I'd probably join them. |
Would u really want to have another war?
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Lord Borg
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| Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:03 am |
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Er....I dont think having another war was Founders point...his point was is that in the trek univrse in the 90's earth was fighting the Euginics wars.
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5thhouse
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| Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:58 pm |
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The way I see it there are several major barriers:
a) humans will have destoryed ourselves by then guessing by the current state of affairs.
b) warp drive as portrayed in ST defys the laws of physics. The only way with what we know now to achieve such a thing would be something along the lines of a subspace conduit, as the rules of noramal space are not the same in subspace.
As for where we did get so far we have the technology for a matter/antimatter engine but it is so inefficeint that it is beyond impractical. We have a varient on the hypospray. We can 'transport' sub-atomic particles.
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lionhead
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| Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:07 pm |
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| Dracojastin wrote: | | I think Japan is more technical advanced than europe... But wich country would invent it then lionhead? |
Can beany good working Country, England, france, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands. Even Switzerland.
All countries in europe have done some serious work in Mathematics, astrology, Physics, Chemistry, etc.
Of course Japan or the US can put a whole lot more money in it. But if we work together.... We can achieve much, much more.
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