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PostFri Oct 10, 2003 1:37 am    While on the subjects of breakthroughs,

Scientists have been able to move some atoms from one point in space to another. Though minutely and insignificant to the naked eye, them doing it proves that they're on the verge of making it big.

Its actually an older story, back in like 2001 or something but its pretty neat.



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PostFri Oct 10, 2003 5:34 am    

How is that possible? I am skeptical. Have you got the article?

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PostFri Oct 10, 2003 7:11 am    

Yes, I agree with the skepticism Prank puts forward. I would also like proof. If you can verify this I will back the discovery's existance.


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PostFri Oct 10, 2003 9:09 am    

It is impossible to create a large scale teleportation device, because of the 'uncertainty factor'

We can never be absolutely certain where an atom is going to be at any given time, therefore we cannot get an absolute lock on an atom, and put it exactly where we need it to be.

Ok, even if we found a way to get beyond this, do you know how advanced a computer would have to be to do this?

Do you have any idea how many atoms and molecules are inside a human being?

I'm sure you have heard of the term 'mole' before, and if you haven't, it is a measure used to count atoms or molecules. It is always the same amount 6.022045 x 10^23 atom(or molecules)/mole. Do you want to know how much a mole of lead weighs? About 207 grams. That's about half of a pound.

You do realize how heavy lead is, right? 600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 particles of lead only weighs half of a pound. Most of the atoms/molecules in a human don't have nearly the same density as lead, but for the benefit of the doubt, let's just assume that they do. You would need to mulitply that number by 400 (assuming the average body weight is 200 pounds). 600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x FOUR HUNDRED. We would need a computer that would be able to memorize EXACTLY where each and every one of those particles were to reconstruct a human.

And we are talking about transporting humans here, imagine trying to transport something like a shuttle...something that weighs several tons. That would require exponentially more resources than to transport a human.

Yeah, I don't see transporter technology happening any time soon.


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PostFri Oct 10, 2003 2:07 pm    

Yes, I'd have to agree on that. You would need one hellofa computer. I wouldn't mind being around to see something that awesome.


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PostMon Oct 13, 2003 7:25 am    

http://www.research.ibm.com/quantuminfo/teleportation/

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