stop slagging off enterprise

uss crag · Crewman Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 1

I am getting sick and tired of people slagging of enterprise. It is only in its 3rd season and in my opinion the episodes are great. All of the seasons were critisized at the start and all of them by season 7 were the best shows i have ever seen. If enterprise was canceled what would those people say. Enterprise is still star trek and if star trek got canceeld then their would be millions of fans out their very dissapointed and agry and the few fans who chose to disown star trek!

Admiral Buck · **Tue Aug 05, 2003 6:57 am**

I agree Enterprise is the newby so of course its got to be cut some slack.
(but not too much!)

hdn · Lieutenant Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 163 Location: Sweden

I couldn't agree with you more, uss crag. In my opinion Enterprise's two first seasons has been great and I hope that there will be five more to come.

Lt.BirdGod · **Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:59 am**

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Its just when the enforce them upon others, is when I get pissed.

Lindley · **Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:06 pm**

None of the other shows were as dissapointing in their first two seasons as ENT has been. DS9 found its feet after one season, though it did stumble a bit in season 2 before really picking up. TNG had some stinkers in season 1, and S2 wasn't that great either....but there was a writers' strike, so they have an excuse. The first two seasons of TOS were the best of that show. The first two seasons of VOY were as good as anything later----some say better.

And here's Enterprise. I liked it at first, but after the third or fourth episode which was a clear-cut redo of an old Trek episode, and the fourth or fifth episode when characters made boneheaded decisions......I just lost interest. I still watch first run eps, but that's it. No reruns. Not going to get the DVDs if they ever come out.

Why should Trek shows get three seasons to "find their legs"? Why? Firefly was cancelled after 15 episodes, and was better in those hours than ENT has been in two seasons. Babylon 5 had to struggle every single year for renewal, and only made its planned five-year arc by the skin of its teeth. ENT has the Trek name, and thus is virtually garanteed renewal, no matter how little effort the folks in charge put into it.

I wouldn't mind so much if ENT weren't a prequel. They made it a prequel in order to make it different.......and yet, its more "same 'ol" than any of the previous shows. In this supposedly primitive century, we've already seen holodecks and holograms, replicators and transporters. "Polarized Hull Plating" which is, dramatically, no different than sheilds. How exactly is ENT "New and different"?

Its a prequel! Make it one! Don't jump at every chance to violate continuity even more than it has been! "Lets give the Romulans cloaks, just cause its 'kewl', even though cloaking was unknown in Kirk's time!"

ARG, it makes me want to rip my hair out at times. Luckily, I have a great deal of self-restraint.

PrankishSmart · **Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:57 pm Re: stop slagging off enterprise**

trekkieangl · **Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:12 am**

that's right. go to the forum specially dedicated to a topic and let everyone know in that topic it sucks. way keep to a positive attitude about it.

now personally enterprise is a good series. not a favorite but one i'm willin to sit and watch without hesitation.

Admiral Buck · **Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:41 am**

everyone is entitled to their own opinion so please if you dont mind could you argue this by PMing or not at all because these are public forums and people may take offence at what you're saying.
Next time if an arguement breaks out stop and think about the people you may be hurting.

PrankishSmart · **Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:13 am**

I don't care. Call me closed minded, but it's my opinion. It is also about 95% of all other trekkies opinions!

Admiral Buck · **Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:16 am**

mine too but there are that 5% that still like it

Lindley · **Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:15 pm**

Scapegoat Bob · **Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:16 pm**

That doesnt mean that can be mean to others, Jeff JR!

Lindley · **Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:08 am**

Los · **Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:19 am**

I believe that, if Viacom and the Paramount execs would listen to the fans more, maybe they wouldn't have this problem.

I don't mind a break from the continuum and timeline because hey, its not like any other show doesn't do it. Look at Star Wars. *beep*, there's a lot of instances in that!

Overall, I think the show is great. Yeah, there are parts and episodes that should've been redone or just completely omitted but its a show and their doing their damnedest job at doing it right.

Give them credit. At least they can act.

The Delta Flyer · **Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:44 am**

I think that Prequels are generally not as popular as the other series...take Trek for example, in TOS you start with a basic premise in a basic universe....this is then expanded in TNG...DS9 dealt with continuing themes in this Galaxy whereas Voyager was somewhere in between. With a prequel, you have to start again from scratch - fleshing out a known universe which has already been "fleshed out" but you have alot of expectations for it simply because of the name. Had Enterprise been anything other than Star Trek, I think it would've been cancelled before now...

Stewey · Sophomore Cadet Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 10

Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

Every one on this site is a startrek fan so stop your whimpering! Any fan can rally behind this show and beet the millions of fans drum but it takes a real startrek fan to look at the Startrek legacy and admit it when it fails. Admit it!! It won't kill you! ENT bites the big one! Maybe next season huh? You say that enough and you'll be switching channels looking for it soon.

captain_muller0770 · **Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:55 am**

they should have some slack cut off but not to much