Instead of Enterprise they should have made Pike's Log!!!

Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

I think I've made it clear about the fact that I beleave Enterprise should have been better thought out. I beleave that considering the fact that it was the launching of the first vessle and the begining of starfleet the show should have focused more on the federations birth and expantion into a legitamit interstellar power.

But since the writers punked out and made it just a low tech / earlier time line version of next generation it would have been better to follow the life of Captain Pike. After all when we see Pike all that's left is the man's head! what the hell happened?! Plus you still get the lower tech Enterprise a lot more babes in the mix a cool Dr the only problem I see is the young Mr. Spock.

That could probably be worked out. What do you think?

Ronevick · **Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:23 pm**

i myself like archer and their current mission but actually what happened to Pike was when he was rescuing people he was exposed to delta rays that mutated his body and stuff(nasty looking guy)

sabertooth1217 · **Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:40 pm**

Enterprise is a show that I would think needs to stay kind of the same. It�s a lot different than the rest but I think that they should show some of captain pike and some of the older star fleet admirals. Because, when you look into the text of any of the other shows it says nothing about archer because it was a prequel. If the captain was like pike then it would have fit with the other shows more deeply and the after effect would seem more real that the show is right now. What we have only seen 2 seasons of it maybe they will change it up a bit. Who knows what season 3 will be like?

Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

I like Captain Archer also and I have no problems with the low tech aspects. The thing I have a problem with is it's stoyline content and the writers inability to try something new. Startrek, Next Generation, DS9, Voyager and now Enterprise. TV is unfortunatly run on ratings and if a show can't aquire new viewers it won't last for long. If first time viewers come away thinking it the same old thing in a new package then what does that say for the future of Startrek? I don't want my kids only exposer to startrek to come from reruns and old movies. I want them to bug the hell out of me for my old dvds so they can catch up on startrek history.

Deta rays? That's a good one. Try again. Frankly I think the ship followed an old sub space becon and when Pike took part in the away mission an alien egg hatched and attached to his head but when the alien burst from his chest the Federation had the technology to save his head.

Oh and by the way that's the reason why the federation looks down on Captains going on away missions.

Mr. 99 I get your point let's hope for season 3.

I'm thinking of changing my log in name to Mr. Pike's Head.

Los · **Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:19 am**

Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

uh I think you need to watch that episode again my friend! Pikes body was a box.

Pah-Wraith · **Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:17 pm**

In "The Cage" Captain Pike had a full Body, later we saw him in "the Menagerie" episode where he had been Crippled and could not communicate with anything other than 1 Beep for Yes and 2 Beeps for No

I doubt they could have Pulled off the Series, Jeffrey Archer the Actor who played him is Long Dead

Los · **Tue Jun 24, 2003 12:24 pm**

Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

Not only is he dead but if he was alive he'd be too old for the role. I'm not advocating we dig up the old Pike (No pun intended) what I'm saying is that it's been long enough to allow a new actor to play the roll.

Yes we all know that in the begining Pike had a full body but c'mon guys I'm talkin' about the end result here. (ok maybe I wasn't clear on that.)

The Cage was the original pilot. The Menagerie implies that something terrible went down later in Pike's cerear. Every Starfleet Captain doesn't have to have a safe ending. Even Sisco is in a position to make a comeback. Pike He just got dogged out somehow. Pikes show could take place after the cage and lead up to the accident.

Interstelar_Concordium_CM · **Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:47 pm**

Mr. Pike, captain pike was burnt by radiation by a reactor leak, he is not just a head on a box. The "box" you refer to is his wheel chair.

Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

Some wheelchair, it looks like a box on wheels to me. Radiation Leak huh? no wonder why every time I get mad I freak out bust out of my wheelchair and wreck half the damn city.

sabertooth1217 · **Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:51 pm**

i think mr. pike has some things to deal with... mental things

Interstelar_Concordium_CM · **Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:53 pm**

No, he just is entusiastic

Jeff Miller · **Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:13 pm**

sabertooth1217 · **Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:23 pm**

beep beep

i think he said yes? or maybe no..

Interstelar_Concordium_CM · **Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:53 pm**

sabertooth1217 · **Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:05 pm**

lol
double yes

Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

Can you just imagine the humiliation of it all? Cooking in that tiny, black box on sunny days? Everyone else zooming through the Galaxy while m'man Pike can't even ask for a glass of ,bloody, water. Geeezzzusssss!!

Mental Problems, you damn Skippy!!!!!

Lt.BirdGod · **Tue Jul 08, 2003 9:23 pm**

Tech · **Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:03 am**

Heh, now you've made me wanna watch Futurama!

Stewey · Sophomore Cadet Joined: 08 Aug 2003 Posts: 10

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Mr. Pike · Lieutenant, Junior Grade Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 70

How could this subject be misconstrued? OK let's make things clear. TOS was a mission of exploration. TNG was a mission of exploration. DS9 was the base station series. VOY was the startrek lost in space scenario. So now we go back to the mission of exploration? Who cares if it's the first ship if all their going to do is the same thing TOS and TNG did? That's what I mean when I say the writers have punked out. This series doesn't have time to develop the Birth & expansion themes because most of their other story lines have been lame. Its viewer ship is down and now their talking about abandoning the show after the next season ends. Why because old writers have the tendency of writing the same thing more then once. They need new blood and much better writing. Archer makes mistakes even we wouldn't make. Not to mention how everyone else can kick enterprises butt. As far as pikes concerned he'd kick Archer�s ass and it's the fact that we don't know much about him that would probably be so interesting. Besides We all know the fist Captain was not Archer.

captain_muller0770 · **Sun Aug 24, 2003 6:56 am**

why should they change it?