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EnsignParis
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PostSun Jun 12, 2005 2:01 am    

Why? Do you think your reasoning makes more sense? I mean, that's cool and all, I can't say what you can and cannot believe, but not to be offensive, but do you really imagine that you can hold a candle to current scientific theories with double and triple checked mathematical support when all you're giving us is something you and I consider a hunch? I haven't seen, or at least I can't recall, you citing any credible sources for what you're saying nor have you given any mathematical or scientific evidence for your claims.

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PostSun Jun 12, 2005 6:22 am    

I believe in myself, not in others.

I think that answers most of your questions.

idon't need scientific and mathematical proof to understand it myself, i came up with it. I understand other people need the proof, so that why i am stopping with forcing my own beliefs on others. But that doesn't mean i can't diss on other people idea's when i see they are wrong. i feel compelled to do that.



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PostWed Jun 29, 2005 5:16 pm    

Stars create the galaxies not blackholes.

When a star explodes it turns into a nebula when the nebula starts forming it create stars then starts to form into a galaxy.

Blackholes is matter of energy that sucks everything around it. No one really knows what happens after that.


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PostSun Jul 03, 2005 3:50 am    

Actually, a very large star, much, much larger then ours would actually turn into a Black Hole when it expldoes. first it becomes a super nova, then it will implode and become a black hole. a very small star like ours would become a Red Dwarf, or blue dwarf or whatever.


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EnsignParis
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PostMon Jul 04, 2005 2:16 am    

Our star, a medium sized star I believe (but you may be correct with calling our sun small...as I am just recalling from the top of my head), will first turn into a red giant, eating the first few planets and making life on Earth as we know it uninhabitable, boiling the oceans and melting the rocks.

After a couple billion years of this, the sun will then start to shrink and cool down, turning into a white dwarf. After this stage, the sun will just continue to cool and cool for billions of more years eventually turning into a giant cool iron rock (I think, as the fusion of iron requires more energy to do than it produces so the "engine" of the sun stalls after its excess energy is used up to fuse the iron atoms.)


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PostMon Jul 04, 2005 3:11 am    

White dwarf, yes. Thats was it. Thanks Ensignparis for clearing that up.

I beleived too recall that the Sun would totally consume the Earth, and even mars when it turns into a red giant.


But anyways, the important part is that our sun is not big enough to turn into a black hole.



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PostMon Jul 04, 2005 4:41 pm    

lionhead wrote:
White dwarf, yes. Thats was it. Thanks Ensignparis for clearing that up.

I beleived too recall that the Sun would totally consume the Earth, and even mars when it turns into a red giant.


But anyways, the important part is that our sun is not big enough to turn into a black hole.


Mars is an Iron enriched planet and not a star and it wont turn into a red giant. lol

Look the blue giants as astronomers call are actually the largest stars in the solar systems. Red Giants are the second largest followed by our sun, white dwarfs, and brown dwarfs.

And I know this because I took 2 astronomy class in college.

Galaxies are formed by nebulas and not by blackholes.


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PostMon Jul 04, 2005 4:56 pm    

i meant it would even consume mars when our sun will turn into a red giant.

I know mars is a planet, come on.


A star that is a red giant out of itself would become a supernova when its burned up. a blue giant too. but a dwarf star like our sun would become the size of a red giant and then shrink down too a white dwarf when its burned out. thats all i was saying.



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