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Republican_Man
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| Quote: | | No it isn't. To tell you the turht I don't know what or who Hamas is. If they are a terrorist organization then they do need to be stopped. but not all Palestinians are terrorists. |
Yes, they are a Palestinian terrorist group that is leading in many of these Palestinian terror attacks. However, I did not say that all Palestinians are terrorists, nor are all Israelis bad.
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| Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:15 am |
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If that lady is dumb enough to go there she's just asking to be killed imo. 
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| Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:20 am |
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I must say it's sweet how all pro retaliating people turn a blind eye to all the poor innocent women and childeren that die by Israel's hands (since it's so much more dramatic when it's about them, right?). I mean, it's ok to shoot at terrrorists leaders and take out at least a few innocents with it right!? 
I think both parties are wrong in their use of violence. But I think as lowly of suicide bombers as I think of Israel' military. I think suicide bombing is respectless for human life, but so is the way Israel is acting. Feel free to disagree with me,
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| Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:04 am |
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It seems a lot of people are feeling that way, but generally are a bit more supportive of the Israeli's.
| Founder wrote: | | What? Palestinians deserve whats happening to them? I think your forgetting who started what. I don't know how many times I have to say this. They bomb people because of what the Israelis do to them. Yeah but the Israelis do cross the line and basically subjugated them in their own home. Those people can't go outside without seeing an Israeli tank or vehicle. I can maybe understand tight security in Isreal but what the hell are they doing patrolling Palestine!? Searching for more terrorists? Yeah im sure... |
This isn't happening all the time. Also I don't see how it's much different from what the Americans are doing in the dangerous areas of Iraq. They are making patrols to make sure there is no groups gathering, etc. And you were complaining about the Israeli's killing innocent civillians, but the same thing happened in the Iraq war, when some innocent building and people were hit by bombs dropped by the Coalition forces. I'm not saying it's right, but you'd have to condem that if you do this.
| Founder wrote: | | But the Israelis did this before they resorted to Terrorist tactics. Thats why they did. Im not saying I know who started what in the centuries long war though. |
Maybe it was something to do with the fact that when Arafat came to power he said he'd fight to the last man if it wiped the Israeli's out. I would be a bit worried if someone said that about Britain. Also they have been attacked "recently" in the 6 day war, so they have to worry a lot about their security.
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Republican_Man
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| Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:42 pm |
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| Dirt wrote: | I must say it's sweet how all pro retaliating people turn a blind eye to all the poor innocent women and childeren that die by Israel's hands (since it's so much more dramatic when it's about them, right?). I mean, it's ok to shoot at terrrorists leaders and take out at least a few innocents with it right!?
I think both parties are wrong in their use of violence. But I think as lowly of suicide bombers as I think of Israel' military. I think suicide bombing is respectless for human life, but so is the way Israel is acting. Feel free to disagree with me, |
Yes, but I think that looking at what Palestine is doing, it's worse.
| Jeremy wrote: | It seems a lot of people are feeling that way, but generally are a bit more supportive of the Israeli's.
Yeah.
| Founder wrote: | | What? Palestinians deserve whats happening to them? I think your forgetting who started what. I don't know how many times I have to say this. They bomb people because of what the Israelis do to them. Yeah but the Israelis do cross the line and basically subjugated them in their own home. Those people can't go outside without seeing an Israeli tank or vehicle. I can maybe understand tight security in Isreal but what the hell are they doing patrolling Palestine!? Searching for more terrorists? Yeah im sure... |
This isn't happening all the time. Also I don't see how it's much different from what the Americans are doing in the dangerous areas of Iraq. They are making patrols to make sure there is no groups gathering, etc. And you were complaining about the Israeli's killing innocent civillians, but the same thing happened in the Iraq war, when some innocent building and people were hit by bombs dropped by the Coalition forces. I'm not saying it's right, but you'd have to condem that if you do this.
Alright, yes it's not happening all the time, but if he's condemning Israeli actions, it's NOT the same as Iraq, because we are DEFINITELY in there to protect and make Iraq a better place and are trying to bring out the terrorists and assist a newly freed country.
| Founder wrote: | | But the Israelis did this before they resorted to Terrorist tactics. Thats why they did. Im not saying I know who started what in the centuries long war though. |
Maybe it was something to do with the fact that when Arafat came to power he said he'd fight to the last man if it wiped the Israeli's out. I would be a bit worried if someone said that about Britain. Also they have been attacked "recently" in the 6 day war, so they have to worry a lot about their security. |
Agreed. Exactly.
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| Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:10 pm |
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Well, I don't know. It's maybe worse that terrorists organisations from Palestina target civilians sometimes. But I think that Israel compensates for that with destroying Palestenian settlements, the building of the wall etc. They have about the same kind of respect for human life, I believe.
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