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Jeff Miller
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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 10:27 pm    

we have way too many people over there already I don't feel comfortable with the lack of army troops we have here.

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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 10:29 pm    

LOL Enlistment skyrocketed after 9/11. We aren't lacking anything.


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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 10:32 pm    

Thats your view I think we are when they say on TV right after the address that 73% of our forces are over there thats 23% too much for me. forget them I prefer my saftey above them.

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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 10:40 pm    

Jeff Miller wrote:
Thats your view I think we are when they say on TV right after the address that 73% of our forces are over there thats 23% too much for me. forget them I prefer my saftey above them.


My view? That's the facts. Ramble on, I know you shall.



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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 10:50 pm    

Whatever T granted it did skyrocket after 9-11 but I don't feel comfortable with 73% of our forces over there what would happen if we got attacked we would be streched thin for defensives over here.

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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 10:52 pm    

That's not the number I heard, but then, I don't get my information "on TV".


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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 11:05 pm    

it was right after the address when they were analyzing what the president said you didn't watch what they said after he talked?

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PostThu Sep 11, 2003 11:09 pm    

Yes, I did. Did you hear them say that Bush wanted to pull troops from foreign countries? Hmm? And now he's got so many out there? They didn't bother to say that the playing feild had changed, now did they? Can you say bias? When you hear something, look it up. Generally you are only hearing half truths, and the "spin" that the broadcasting company wants. Think for yourself. Research for yourself. Don't just take someones word for it.


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PostFri Sep 12, 2003 12:21 am    

ok I'll be sure to do that in the future

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PostFri Sep 12, 2003 6:09 pm    

I wonder why god ewer made humanity dumb enough to kill each other, over soemthing as stupid as oil or land.

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PostFri Sep 12, 2003 6:11 pm    

Yeah, I'm sure the slaughter of civilians, including women and children had nothing to do with it,


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PostFri Sep 12, 2003 6:20 pm    

do't use that crap, every intelligent person on the planet knows that was only one factor, and certainly not the one bush was thinking of. He just didn't want to have to pay more for gas, so he decided to make Iraq part of the u.s. kingdom, lol

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PostFri Sep 12, 2003 6:26 pm    

If you say so, 'cause we all know that you are the authority.
(BTW, did you know that the US has oil reserves that rival that of Iraq?)

You sit there and talk about human life, yet demean the people who were killed. Amazing.
Oh, and gas prices have gone UP since the war started, good effort, though.



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PostFri Sep 12, 2003 6:29 pm    

ah, why bother trying to justify MY opinion to an ADMINISTRATOR.
I was unaware I had to justify it, however I will refrain from trying because it is not possible to argue with someone who has such a cool avatar, lol


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PostFri Sep 12, 2003 6:49 pm    

Me being an admin has nothing to do with it,
And I've always required proof when you make statements as fact. I do it myself, and so should you.



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PostSat Sep 13, 2003 3:45 am    

I would trust Blair and Bush a lot more if they'd just said "We're going into Iraq to get rid of Saddam Hussain and the regime that's killed thousands of people." After all, the largest mass killing using chemical gas recently was when Saddam used it on the Iraqi Kurds in 1991 (I think). Yes, we thought there were weapons of mass destruction in there, and I still think there may be some, just Iraq's such a large country it would take forever to find them.

One thing I will say about Bush: he's not as big a nitwit as Blair is at the moment. He admitted he made mistakes and is trying to repair them. Blair keeps saying he was telling the truth about things such as Iraq trying to get weapons grade uranium (which the CIA have now said they don't have proof of.)

Being in charge is a hard job, and I think Bush is actually doing an ok job of it at the moment, but only time will tell how good he really is.


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PostSat Sep 13, 2003 2:11 pm    

Right now I still wouldn't doubt the presence of WMD. I don't know why people thought they'd be flagged for the soldiers to find.


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PostSat Sep 13, 2003 2:12 pm    

Besides, SH was prohibited from even attempting to make WMD, of which they've found evidence that he had been.


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PostSat Sep 13, 2003 3:34 pm    

My friend Courtney's dad is in Iraq now. I think he's coming home on either January 28 or February 28.

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PostMon Sep 15, 2003 7:12 pm    

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It’s the War, Stupid

Intellivu presents commentary by Bill O'Reilly

For a country smack in the middle of World War III we certainly are a blas� bunch. We're worried about how much fighting the people who want to kill us will cost and whether we have an "exit strategy" in Iraq. Craven politicians and crazed columnists are second guessing President Bush, who, at times, looks like he's first guessing the nation's foreign policy. Since Mr. Bush, for some inexplicable reason, will not spell it out for you, it falls on me to do so.

There are around the world thousands of Islamic fanatics who want to kill Americans because they believe Allah is down with that. These people are taught from the time they are children that Jews and Americans are undeserving of life on this planet. There is no negotiation with the most of these zealots; there is nothing one can say to dissuade them. They want blood, and they will use any and all means to get it.

A number of nations help these killers and allow the murderous anti-American indoctrination to continue generation after generation. Iran, Indonesia, Syria and Saudi Arabia are the most threatening to us, although the Saudis do have some pro-American government officials like Prince Bandar, its ambassador to the United States. Iraq used to be a terrorist enabler primarily by helping the homicide bombers kill civilians in Israel, but Saddam Hussein was open to causing trouble for the USA however he could.

The Islamic killers thrive on the Palestinian situation. As long as the Palestinians are denied a state of their own, the propaganda machine that demonizes Israel and America will roll along unchallenged in the Arab world. So the only way to break down the hatred many Arabs have toward us is to forge a Palestinian-Israeli peace agreement that both sides can live with.

In order for Israel to cooperate in this effort fully, it needs to feel secure. Having the Americans in Iraq helps that effort. Also, the USA needs a democratic outpost in the Middle East to put pressure on the terrorist states of Iran and Syria. A foothold in that region makes it infinitely more difficult for Al Qaeda to carry out its evil doing. Just the huge CIA presence in Iraq alone gives the USA a major advantage in learning about terrorist operations before they hurt we the people.

This nonsense about the United Nations rescuing America in Iraq is something Aesop would have published. The U.N. is a chaotic chamber with no sense of urgency about terrorism and no sympathy toward the USA. Now some of that antipathy might be justified, but not when American lives are at stake. In a perfect world, all countries that aid and abet terrorism would be isolated and embargoed. But this is far from a perfect world.

The failure of France, Germany, Russia and China to aggressively help America neutralize terror states is an outrage of historic proportions. France is the worst. The Chirac government lied to Secretary of State Colin Powell about enforcing the U.N. resolution demanding Saddam cooperate with the weapons inspectors. Then France actively undermined both the war and the occupation. President Bush should level with the American people about the duplicity of France and, to a lesser extent, Germany. I know this would cause an uproar, but what the French have done to hurt America and Israel is unconscionable.

At the same time, the Bush administration must begin earnestly persuading nations that are not overtly hostile to us that we don't want to dominate the world, we want to make it safe for everyone.

Finally, World War III is unlike any war in history, and mistakes will be made in the fighting of it. The Bush administration has the correct global view regarding terrorism but poor communications skills both within the country and abroad. The sad truth is that most people don't even know that World War III is underway and have little understanding of the strategies and stakes. But believe me, you and your family are in danger. We must stop the partisan bickering and acknowledge that brain-washed fanatics have us in their sights. And this time there's no Geneva Convention and no limits on deadly weaponry. This time there is no "exit strategy." It's us or them.

� 2003 BillOReilly.com.




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