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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:10 pm |
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Ok, let's get this straight!!!!!!!! The little child and the HAND and stuff, It's that BRENNA COVINGTON chick. Someone said Seven, and Seven never had abusive parents. I never read Mosaic, but Janeway had Nice and kind, and loving parents. They didn't abuse her. Even my dad, who's not one for reading, read the books and he agreed with me that it was Brenna Covington.
I can't believe this topic has gone on for 4 pages.
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MakeItSo Commander
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 406 Location: Somewhere in California
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Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:39 am |
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Yeah, I read Mosaic and it would not make sence if Janeway were the one. It wouldn't make sence with Seven either, but Janeway, yeah, definitely no. I didn't like that Chakotay got Voyager either. I mean, I know that it was a very sweet and honorable thing to do of her, but I didn't want her to be behind a desk. That's one of the problems that I had with the 2 books. Janeway being promoted right to Admiral and then just doing...boring...things. She's a captain and she's meant to be on the bridge of a ship!
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Lynx Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 277 Location: The Lynx Empire
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:26 pm |
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Homecoming-a critical review
I read "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" when they were published some years ago but I must admit that they gave me mixed emotions.
Let's take the good things first: The books are very well-written. Christie Golden is an excellent author and she clearly have an affection and understanding for the Voyager characters.
It was nice to read about how the old favorites finally arrived home and were received. There were also some things in the story that could develop into some interesting future plots, like Montgomery's scemes.
That was the good side, now here comes the bad side:
Kes is missing! There! I've said it! I don't think that I will ever appreciate or like a Voyager book where The Golden Lady Of Voyager isn't present.
The Borg plague was utterly silly. It reminded me of a Monty Python sketch.
I do hope that this Phytonesque attempt to conquer the Earth will be the last we will see of The Borg, at least for the coming ten years. They were great back in the early TNG days but now they are only silly.
But my main impression of "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" are more like.......well, this is going to be one of my usual parables but this will explain my feelings about "Homecoming", "The Farther Shore" and the Relaunch:
A relative of mine is an ardent fan of a certain rock band which had some international success in the end of the 60:s and beginning of the 70:s. My relative is a collector of things related to the band, albums, bootlegs from different concerts, videos, posters, books. But he steadily refuses to buy any of the solo albums the leading band members have done in recent years because he finds their current music lightweighted, adapted and too far away from the magic that the band members created together back in the good, old days. The magic isn't there anymore.
I get a similar feeling when I read "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" . As I've said before, they are well-written and there will probably be some interesting things in future Voyager stories but it will never be the same as when they were together in the Delta Quadrant, alone, facing unknown dangers and wonder if they ever would return to Earth. The magic just isn't there anymore!
I do find it hard to see how it will be possible to come up with good stories about the crewmembers when Janeway has been promoted to a desk-clerk, when Paris and Torres have been ruined as great action characters by becoming "Married With Children", when Tuvok is a teacher, when The Doctor has been reduced to Barclay's house pet and when Kes and Neelix are missing. I'm afraid that the "relaunch" in the long run will be focused on one or two characters while the others will be shoved in the background.
I have all the Voyager seasons 1-3 on DVD, I have the episodes taped up to "Worst Case Scenario", I have all the books up to "Pathways" and I still get a kick from reading and watching some old episodes. I have re-read books like "The Black Shore", "Marooned" and "Caretaker" from time to time but I'm not sure if I will re-read "Homecoming" and "The Farther Shore" in the coming future.
I will stick around and read some of the upcoming books to see if the "relaunch" will turn into something better than expected but I'm afraid that I will continue to lose interest in the future events of my old favorites if not something happens that will give me the interest back again.
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Voyager2004 Commodore
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2070 Location: Silverdale, WA
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:27 pm |
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Sorry...but I stopped reading after you said "Kes was missing."
Isn't there a thread that you can post in without mentioning how "Kes is missing" or "I would have preferred things before season 4..."
Sorry, I don't want to be rude and I'm certainly not trying to be, but I'm sick of that topic and discussion...
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Lynx Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 277 Location: The Lynx Empire
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Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:37 am |
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Voyager2004 wrote: | Sorry...but I stopped reading after you said "Kes was missing."
Isn't there a thread that you can post in without mentioning how "Kes is missing" or "I would have preferred things before season 4..."
Sorry, I don't want to be rude and I'm certainly not trying to be, but I'm sick of that topic and discussion... |
I think you should continue to read my review after the "Kes is missing" comment.
Then you'll see that there are other aspects which makes me doubt about those two books and the Voyager Relaunch itself.
As for the "Kes is missing" comment, I just had to include it because, as you surely understand, it is an important matter when it comes to my interest in Voyager things.
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StarfleetCommand74656 Captain
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV
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Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:21 am SPOILER ALERT |
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A certain lady named Brenna Covington...
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Andi McDougal Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 93 Location: York, PA
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Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:32 pm |
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Lynx wrote: |
The Borg plague was utterly silly. It reminded me of a Monty Python sketch.
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I happen to be a big fan of Monty Python. LOL! Gotta love British Humor!
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triptucker Ensign
Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 52 Location: Canada
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Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:33 pm |
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I havent read them yet but I might ask my bookstore if they can order it in they don't seem to have man voyager books does it come in hardcover
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Lynx Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 277 Location: The Lynx Empire
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Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:20 pm |
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Andi McDougal wrote: | Lynx wrote: |
The Borg plague was utterly silly. It reminded me of a Monty Python sketch.
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I happen to be a big fan of Monty Python. LOL! Gotta love British Humor! |
I'm a fan of Monty Python and Fawlty Towers too. British Humor rocks!
But the Borg plague in "Homecoming" and "The Farther Show" was more like a Python sketch than a serious Star Trek adventure. Would have been funny if it had been a parody.
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StarfleetCommand74656 Captain
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 653 Location: On STV
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:37 pm |
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Like Britis homor, being British, but hate Monty Python. Only fools and horses!
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