Made For TV Movies

Founder · **Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:49 pm Made For TV Movies**

Does anyone else here think that the idea of made for TV movies would be good to continue the stories of the DS9/VOY crews? It's obvious that Paramount and others are far too greedy to send those two crews to the silver screen because they won't bring in the money. So, what if we had a two hour(maybe more) made for tv movies?

We'd finally see Bajor enter the Federation, Sisko's return, the state of the Alpha quadrant, the status of the Dominion, etc.

For the VOY fans, we'd see the very things that VOY fans had been waiting for-the crew's life on Earth. I'd like to see why Janeway became an admiral, what happened to VOY, etc.

Most importantly, we'd get to see the 24th century again! It seems that the powers that be that control Trek has seen it fit to continue to throw us back in the past. So....yeah...

La Forge · **Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:58 pm**

Yeah, some made-for-T.V. movies would be nice. Babylon 5 made a bunch of those after they ended. Its a great way to continue the story.

I'd love to see Sisko's return and the status of the AQ after the Dominion War (which, in Nemesis, seemed as if nothing had changed). One thing that I wouldn't like to see is Bajor join the Federation, but, that's just me.

And, yeah, I'd even want a made-for-T.V. VOY movie over a prequel movie, that's for sure.

Shawn Cordell · **Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:58 pm**

It's definitely a possibility. Not a bad idea, you'd need a pretty powerful script and be able to prove that there is still a fan base out there that would watch it, to the brass.

To me, this sounds pretty cool and could be good. A really interesting idea, if it ever comes to reality, I hope it doesn't go the same way as most of the Star Trek Movies.

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TrekkieMage · **Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:17 pm**

Ditto what everyone else said. I find it very strange that the producers would ditch a bunch of unfinished plots (and good plots at that) to do a few crappy prequels that has half the Trek fans up in arms.

Lord Borg · **Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:44 pm**

Well, that's because the current administration at paramount, wants to focus on new fans.

Founder · **Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:57 pm**

Oh wow, I didn't expect to get so many responses so fast.

I know that the appeal is slightly less as movies are considered better, but at this point, I'll take what I can get. I really want to see this time line continued.

You know a funny thing, I was looking at other sites and there is apparently a following for going back to TOS and a general hatred towards 24th century story lines...

Lord Borg · **Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:12 pm**

Yeah...I don't get it, I'd like to see maybe something in the 2400's, or an add on to the current stuff, I had no idea there was such a following and hatred. I love how people call themselves star trek fans, yet hate everything but a couple episods of TOS, lol.

TrekkieMage · **Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:19 am**

The probem with going back to TOS is that there's such a strong knowledge of what happens in the next century. They're boxing themselves in for storylines and are only going to alienate fans if they butcher the canon much more.

I think that a great series would be one surounding the academy. It's something we keep seeing bits and pieces of in all the shows, but never really the inner workings of it. There are two groups of people there - the admirals and professors, then the cadets - which will appeal to old fans and young students/new fans.

I feel like the producers have so many opportunities (DS9/VOY plots, TV movie, the Academy) and they're just throwing them out the window for a half-baked idea that didn't work the first time around.

Sorry for the rant

Founder · **Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:06 pm**

TrekkieMage · **Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:12 pm**

I have noticed a bit of a resurection of the Trek forums

I think they are hesitating with VOY and DS9 because they think they'll be boxing themselves in there as well.

My thoughs with the Academy are that they can have guest lectures, the VOY crew will probably be going through their debriefings, and not to mention the rumor mill. And I can see Tuvok, Chakotay, and as you said O'Brien all working there. It'd also be neat to see B'Elanna reestablishing connections there since she misinterpreted how her professors viewed her.

I just feel like, of all the possibilities they have, the Academy would be the one that would box them in the least. TOS is too well explored, and DS9 and VOY by themselves are too complicated and established to draw in new fans.

Lord Borg · **Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:12 pm**

The problem I have with the TOS is, they've already gotten six movies (Seven if you want to count Generations), and there would be differnt actors playing the same chars, I'm sorry, but that drives me bonkers.

Then, the next problem, the current production team seems to be concentraiting on new fans, with older fans, being treated almost as an after thought. I can see the point, there was a time when TOS was Star Trek, and I know that there are people out there that don't considar anything other then TOS Trek, but still...damn. After the failure of Enterprise, I'd think someone would be like "Alright...a look into the past didn't work...back to the future it is!"

As for the Academy idea? Hmmmn...I think I Mini-series might be better for that... and, Like Founder said, seveal chars we all know and love now have some sort of involvment with the academy.

Shawn Cordell · **Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:18 pm**

As far as I can tell, or remember, Trek's never been one to go backwards. It's always been about going forward. TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY. So to me, Star Trek's always been about, looking at the past and using what we've learned from the past to move forward, instead of backwards.

I can see why'd they would want to go back, but I think it goes against Gene Roddenberry's intentions with Star Trek. And of course, I could be wrong here.

The most noteworthy and new idea, that would seem fresh to an audience would be to have it revolve around the Starfleet Academy. But then, what aspects would you explore? Should the show focus on Red Squad and what it does in its secrecy? Or should it be revolving around a group of normal cadet's everyday lives on the Academy grounds? Maybe give some insight into how diverse Starfleet really is? In terms of culture, races, people and so on.

Anyways, I hope a new Star Trek show soon appears. I'd hate to be left with 'just' some TOS movie special.

La Forge · **Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:22 pm**

Voyager2004 · **Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:25 pm**

It's stupid to go back in time. I agree that seeing new characters play OLD characters will, as LB said, "Drive me bonkers." LOL...It's stupid. Because, myself being an aspiring actor, looking at it from an actors point of view, Kirk talked like he did for a reason. And William Shatner is the one who determined WHY Kirk talked like he did. But now you're gonna have some stupid Matt Damon come in, have NO idea why Kirk talked like that, and try to mimic it. But it just won't have the same heart that Shatner had for it. Just kills me!

Not to mention going BACK in time is still just STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Academy idea is a good idea...I agree that's more of a mini-series than a full out series. Because after 4 years you'd have to follow them to the ship, or get a whole new cast, and that would suck.

And I'm TOTALLY with Founder on the TV movie idea. Because right now, I'd be freakin' happy with whatever I can get as well! Haha

Founder · **Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:20 pm**

Lord Borg · **Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:33 pm**

It depends on how people feel, becuase, appaently, there is a following for more TOS stuff (For some...strange reason). I think it will ultimately depend on how this movie does, and how the movies does depends on how many tickets get sold, and when it opens (Theory goes, that if Nemesis did't open when LotR and Harry Potter did, it'd have done better...). It might have a chance, christmas 2008....but I dunno....

IN short, I'd like to see more of that era, I'd even make a production in that era, if I had the resources to. I think, in all honesty, it's time for a "new" era, which they tried to do wwith ENT, but it was contrived as "looking back" and "violating canon" soz.... Maybe like ST:O or something, 2390's, or 2400's.

Shawn Cordell · **Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:42 pm**

Voyager2004 · **Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:14 pm**

I'm for the future alright, but not quite so fast. There is a TON of open ground with DS9/VOY era. I would like to see them pick back up there...

And I HOPE TO GOD, that this new movie just FLOPS SO bad, because then that means, "Oh, J.J. Abrams did so GREAT with LOST, and so WONDERFULLY EXCELLENT with M.I. III, and revived it. But there was little ol' Star Trek, who has been floundering since 2002, and he FAILED!!!" That would put such a TARNISHING mark on his record. MWHAHAHAHA!

I don't care how evil that sounds. But it will let Trek know that they are stupid for doing what they are doing. And on top of that, it'll let J.J. Abrams know that he's a moron for also wanting to go back. Because, as I understand it, and I may be wrong, but it was also partly his idea for going back to Kirk. Mostly for the fact that he didn't really know much about after him. THAT IS STUPID! THEN DON'T DO TREK! DUH!!!!!

Sorry, I'm just so passionate about this movie failing and Trek actually listening to us.

But that's just me...............................

Shawn Cordell · **Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:41 am**

Voyager2004 · **Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:39 pm**

If you look at it that way, then sure....

More correctly, I want J.J. Abrams to flop. As I said, to my understanding, it's pretty much mostly his idea to go back to Kirk. And it's STUPID...but Trek listened to him "because he supposedly knows what he's doing." I don't care what he's doing, he's retarded.

I want all to know, that these are just my personal opinion on the main idea of going back to Kirk, not necessarily saying he's stupid...but his reason for doing it is stupid..."Because he doesn't know much about Trek after Kirk...That's a dumb retarded reason.

Founder · **Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:34 pm**

I have mixed feelings on the upcoming movie, but I can tell you that I've given up on them heading back to DS9/VOY era. The closest we'll get to that is Star Trek: Online and even then, that takes places two decades later.

I wish I could extend my hopes to Paramount(not that they'd listen). Sadly, we probably won't even get this idea...

squiggy · **Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:19 pm**

Voyager2004 · **Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:12 pm**

calvin · **Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:06 am**

wasn't part of the idea behind TNG to do weekly 1 hr. episodes of movie-quality programming? i've only seen a handful of episodes of DS9 & VOY, but i think this also applies to those series.

in my experience, the Star Trek series from TNG onward (though i haven't seen Enterprise) all had special effects, production values, and overall content that were a notch above other TV series of their time. TNG seemed to set a new standard for what you could do on a weekly TV show.

so in a sense they just needed to do a 2-part story or a single 2-hr. episode--like the pilot episodes for each of those series.

though, personally i think the idea behind Babylon 5 is pretty cool too. they seemed to follow in the footsteps of Star Trek in bringing higher-than-usual quality programming to a weekly TV slot. but they also innovated by creating a weekly series that was based on a central pre-planned story-arc rather than standalone weekly episodes, thus bringing novel-quality writing and epic plot lines to television.